RE: 60# or 70# ?
 

Thats why you don't take marginal shots,;), so they really have no point!:)

RE: 60# or 70# ?
 

I'll drink with you again on that one.

RE: 60# or 70# ?
 

To clarify: When I stated marginal shotI meant one where the animal has turned at the shot. It's not meant to mean a shot that possibly should not be taken in the first place.

And really I'm not even sure why this is an argument or why anyone needs to justify the weight they shoot at. It's a personal preference and has nothing to do with macho anything.

My Ally at 70# is easier to draw and hold than my Whitetail legend was at 60#.

RE: 60# or 70# ?
 

If women and children can kill whitetails using a 40" or 50" why shouldn't everyone just use a 50" bow for deer hunting? It will do the job just fine so why even get a 60" bow?

RE: 60# or 70# ?
 

This is from last spring. The lean forward wasa step I built into my shot sequence last year to break the leaning back at full draw habit, that is intentional and has nothing to do with the weight. I don't lean at all now and no longer have to do that step in the shot sequence.

Anyhow, I am shooting a 71lb Apex 7 in that vid. You can see once the bow is up, the sight doesn't move the whole way through the draw sequence. I was also shooting 500-700 arrows a week at that point as well, so my conditioning was top notch, don't think I could do that now over and over again like I was able to last year.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v283/ringostar40/Archery%20Competition%20and%20Form%20Pics/?action=view&current=MOV00961.flv

RE: 60# or 70# ?
 

Why doesn't everybody use a .243 for deer? Why don't they? It's everyone's right and choice to use what they want to.

Let me introduce something else here. I find it suprising that some of the same people that argued about using a heavier arrow over a lighter one for increased momentum are now arguing against using the highest poundage that you can shoot comfortably with a heavier arrow. The higher the poundage the faster you can move a heavier projectile along and the further that projectile will maintain it's speed. Which results in higher momentum at impact.

IfI can shoot an arrow that is 30 grains heavier 10 fps faster why would I not do that? And if I upped the weight by another 40 grains the arrow would be traveling about the same speed but with a higher KE and momentum.

I'm over 290 fps w/ a 421 gr arrow. I'd rather have that than 270 with the same arrow weight.

As for drawing it back. If I couldn't hold the bow straight out and draw with just my right arm I'd lower the weight. however, I cna do it so I'm not dropping the weight. I see more movement in guys with 55 lb rigs than I have with mine at hte range all the time.

RE: 60# or 70# ?
 

My new warranty replacement limbs are on the way. I had them change the order from 70# to 60#. I have been shooting at 65. I will bottom out the new limbs and that should put the bow at 62# or very close to that. I think I will have a quieter and more efficient bow. I don't think I'll be giving up much at all in the way of speed or KE. I should have it by the weekend. I'll shoot it through the chrono. At a 3-D a few weeks ago I was getting 264 fps with a 425 gr arrow. I will shoot the same arrow and let ya'll know the results.

RE: 60# or 70# ?
 

um......... 64 lbs 3 oz

RE: 60# or 70# ?
 

You might be surprised. It might shoot faster too. Bows don’t perform the same when you let the limbs out. All bows are designed to shoot at the high end of the limbs.

RE: 60# or 70# ?
 

I was getting ready to post this and you saved me the work. People don't tend to believe the statement above when they read it on the internet or hear it at a proshop. That is why I called the Bowtech technical dept today so that no one can argue or dispute this fact. Like I said several posts back, backing a bow out of its' peak weight changes the cam specsand their performance, the draw length, and the bow is not getting the full deflex of the limb. The bow is less efficient. If you own a 70# bow and are turning it down to 65# or less, you probably could get better performance with a 60#er peaked out and registering 61-62# on the bowscale.