HOG WASH? New info on the "Monster PIG"
 

http://www.annistonstar.com/showcase/2007/as-open-0601-bstrickland-7f01i1244.htm

Just found this over on AT. Sounds like it was a canned hunt for a fat pig used to eating canned goods!

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I smelled a rat with that story. Knew it had to be a tame/domesticated animal - otherwise, who lets their 11-year-old kidgoe toe-to-toe with a vicious,half-tonwild animal? With only a revolver...

Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.

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Quick we do not agree on some topics, but I like your last line;)

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What sucks is this is going to end up coming out bad for hunting. There was so much media attention around this thing...and now its going to be portraited as a couple of rednecks shooting swine behind the barn. I kinda hate it for the kid, I think his bubble is about to get burst and thats gonna be real tough for him. I suspect the outfitter may well get sued.

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Swamp I will say it

Nothing good ever happens on a canned game farm hunt for hunting:(

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SC,

Was thinking same thing. No way this thing looks good for hunters.
It is so over the top that it will stay in the news.
It also plays up all the bad stereotypes of hunting.
As much as we say we don't care, non-hunting city-slickers (who don't really have the ability to understand hunting) do vote and those people they vote for make laws.

I do feel sort of sorry for the kid. Think about if you were that young and impressionable and your dad took you on this hunt and you thought you killed the world's largest hog. It is his dad that set this up, played up the publicity, made the website, etc. Any fallout should be on him.

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whats wrong with canned hunts? I love them. specialy if they have the deer tied up. can get close for a good shot don't have to track. jk i would never do a high fence hunt. not even for an exotic

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LOL!!

For WHAT????

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I think the owner of the place told the dad that the hog was wild when he knew it was a domestic animal. Poor Fred. He was bought by the owner as breeding stock and look what happened to him.

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I wonder if they uesed an eletric can opener as bait. Fred herd the classic sound of dinner being opened, and he came in on a string.

Black and Decker was the end of Fred[8D]

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The little anecdotes and stories describing the pig as a "pet" made me cringe. Especially since the directquotes from the owners never indicated him as such. That sounds like a bit of literary license to me.

I kind of feel bad for the kid, because he was taking a beating on this before when it was a "feral" hog, now he is really gonna get it. I bet he'll think twice before going on a canned hunt again. The shame is it might drive him and others away from hunting.[:@]

Well said.

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I think it was the only humane thing to do, keeping it safe behind a fence.

Otherwise Germ woulda been spooning w/ poor fred!!!

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Think about all the hype that is going on around this thing man. They are even writing an aisde about it into that "Hogzilla" movie that I keep hearing about. This kid has been on the news, on radio shows, they are selling posters.....and it was all because the outfitter claimed that this was a "feral pig". The fact that it had been bought as "livestock" only four (4) days before it was shot as "The World's Largest 'Wild' Pig", may well bring about some damages and rights to redress. Do you think if the poor saps father had known this was a livestock pig he would have made as big a deal about it has its been made into?

Just think about how many lawsuits Milo Hanson has been involved in regarding his "World Record" buck? Mitch Rompola shot that deer (and I think it turned out bogus anyway), that could have potentially knocked Hanson off the top rung and Milo sued the guy! Think about all the promotions, viewings, and tours that the world record deer makes. The horns on that thing are worth well over a million dollars to the right collectors...you think that a lawsuit wouldn't be filed......you're off your nut man.

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...and off in the distance, you could hear a shot ring out... or sixteen shots... whatever...

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You'd think after the pig walked up to theboy and oinked for food the father would have figured it out.:D

I'm guessing that in this story we will never know the truth. There is no way the father will admit that he knew the pig was not dangerous. As quick said no father in their right mind would let their 11 yr old son stand toe to toe with a pig that big if he didn't know what was up.

I've never done a canned hunt and never would. But the more I hear about them the game is normally used to humans. I'm not saying they were domesticated. Probably more like the ducks I see down in the Harbor. You could walk up to one and hit it with a stick.

Black eye for all hunters.

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The funny thing is everything most people whined about seems to be true. The photos are not fake, the pig really was huge, and the kid did indeed shoot it with a 50 cal pistol. At least that is what we are being lead to believe and people seem to be accepting it now that they have something else to pick at.

The only thing they have shown is that it wasn't a "wild" pig. I don't recall anyone complaining about it being canned or domesticated. Most said it was flat out fake and didn't happen.

Kinda looks like it did happen, just not in a way we agree with.

Am I the only one that has overlooked this?

Maybe this is something to divert us in another direction away from the original accusations.

Paul

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I deer hunted there last season, and shot quail and pheasant(tower shoot) this spring. The hog hunts are inside a game fence area of about 150 acres. The deer hunting is simply wide open land, as well as the bird hunts.I know3 other outfitters, and the demands for hogs as opposed to the ability to maintain a huntable population are very skewed, and they also obtain trapped hogs that are released, and some are from farmers, to keep up with the demands.Normally the hogs considered domestic, are peend and later released to become wild, just as the original wild hogs did, except they , normally,escaped.I would venture a guess that 90 % of all hog hunts are involved with released pigs, just like most quail hunts involve released birds. I, personally don't usually hog hunt for this reason. As a matter of coincidence, I am planning on going hog hunting on on some public land in N Ga, that is completely free roaming, simply because I want to get into the woods after missing the entire turkey season due to being so busy in my business this spring.These hogs are ones that were iether inadvertently lost by farmers through escaping fences or were released intentionally. Vetry few truly 'wild' hogs exist, and even they were released at some point, having been transported from other countries.I am not supportive of canned hunts, but hog hunting seems to be done like this across the board. I need to talk to Eddie, and I will let the concerns be made known to him, but I will reserve my judgements until I have talked to him personally. I know him well enough to think, at this time, that he was looking for some publicity to promote his new venture, and maybe let the pressure skew his judgement in this case. I also know him well enough to say that he wasn't trying to intentionally hurt the hunting image or to offend hunters.
How about everyone let this get sorted out before jumping to conclusions. Maybe it can be an oppurtunity to make something positive out of it. Attacking this boy, his father, and Eddie won't accomplish anything. Talk of lawsuits, etc., are a bit exagerrated reactions.Keep in mind that this is a journalists perspective, which will almost always involve bias and a slant.Allowing this to put things back in perspective will accomplish a great deal more--for everyone.

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I almost feel bad for ol Fred. He was shot 16 times in 3 hours before he kicked the bucket. I'm all for killing any animalas long as its done as humanly as possible.

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I wonder if he's still getting the whole body mounted now that it was a pet?

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He's not getting the body mounted, just the head. And from what I understand it's done already. At least I think I read that.

Paul

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Diesel,

Again, 16 times just sounds cruel.

Why not shoot for the brain pan on that thing? A head shot would probably have been the most humane (and if you miss you could hit the neck or spinal cord).

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If the dad and the guide did indeed have rifles they should have finished it off after the .50 cal was unloaded the first time.

That part the father should be held responsible for.