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TexasBowHuntr 05-21-2007 12:20 PM

Varmet Hunting
 
Who here varmet hunts with a bow and not a gun and if so what do you use for the arrow tip?
I hunt raccoons and squirrels with a bow and 100 grain broad heads...Thanks appreciate your responses!

GMMAT 05-21-2007 12:23 PM

RE: Varmet Hunting
 
If I were going to be shooting racoons.....I'd go with a fixed blade broadhead.

I can't see shooting a $13 arrow with a $10 broadhead at a squirrel.....so ya got me, there.

TexasBowHuntr 05-21-2007 12:26 PM

RE: Varmet Hunting
 
yeah i use a fixed blade as well. The last raccoon I shot i skinned, and now i am trying to taxidermy it myself. I taxied a squirrel and turned out nice so we'll have to see how this one goes!

DROCK 05-21-2007 12:29 PM

RE: Varmet Hunting
 
Have you looked into Judo tips? They will work on small game and they aren't expensive like a broadhead.

TexasBowHuntr 05-21-2007 12:31 PM

RE: Varmet Hunting
 
I have heard of them but i really dont understand how they work? are they dependable and where would your shot placement be?

DROCK 05-21-2007 12:39 PM

RE: Varmet Hunting
 
Here a couple heads from Cabela's. The judo come in 100g, 125 and 135g.
They are also great for stump shooting, try them out that way to see how they fly.















Judo Points
The Judo Points are a favorite among small-game hunters. These judo points feature small spring arms that snag on grass, brush or the ground on impact to flip your arrow up vertically to reduce loss. Also available in 135-grain with a 5° taper for wooden arrows.


Below is a G5 small game head, they come in 100g and 125.
Hope this helps.




G5 Small Game Head
Dispatches down-sized critters with a mega dose of shock-and-tear trauma. Expect instant immobilization, rapid fatality and field-point flight. It thumps and grabs with authority thanks to three talon like prongs with sharpened inner surfaces and a rounded nose. Prongs flip the arrow upward at ground impact for easy recovery.


TexasBowHuntr 05-21-2007 12:44 PM

RE: Varmet Hunting
 
have you ever used one before? Where do you aim. I pull 68 pounds will that be too much for judo points snapping? I really would not like to adjust the poundage...just a hastle

DROCK 05-21-2007 12:54 PM

RE: Varmet Hunting
 

ORIGINAL: TexasBowHuntr

have you ever used one before? Where do you aim. I pull 68 pounds will that be too much for judo points snapping? I really would not like to adjust the poundage...just a hastle
I have only used them for stump shooting. I haven't hunted small game with them. My bow is sighted in for 100grain broadheads/fieldtips, so I use the same weight on my judo tips. There should not be too much difference in the accuracy within 30yds. They are a pretty durable head, so shooting your weight will not be a problem. The arms on the head have springs, so they can grab on to things.

Like any new piece of equipment, you should practice with it until you are comfortable, before you take it in the field, no matter the game you hunt.

curth83 05-21-2007 12:58 PM

RE: Varmet Hunting
 
ive used those g5 small game heads. they do wonders on squirrels. dead almost instantly. havnt shot anything else with them though.

TexasBowHuntr 05-21-2007 01:17 PM

RE: Varmet Hunting
 
Interesting Thanks guys!!!

Paul L Mohr 05-21-2007 02:30 PM

RE: Varmint Hunting
 
With small game like bunnies and squirrels you want a blunt or judo tip, not a broad head. They don't kill them like a deer or bigger pest. They kill by shock. It transfers the energy into the animaland pretty much stuns them to death, and I'm sure breaks some bones at the same time. Possibly snapping the neck.

I have shot bunnies and squirrels with both broad heads (mechanicals) and blunt tips. The blunts work much better. It anchors them right on the spot usually. They don't run and bleed, they just flip over and die. Doesn't really matter where you hit them either, just aim for the middle of the body or front shoulder.

Now with a raccoon or woodchuck I don't know if I would use a blunt tip or not. Those are pretty decent sized and tough critters. You may just piss one off doing that unless you had a heavy arrow and a bow with mucho KE. I wouldn't want to do it with mine I know that.

I think large cut mechanicals would work good for those critters. Or better yet cheap good flying fixed heads. Take my word for it, shooting at woodchucks with a bow will result in some ruined arrows;).

Paul

PreacherTony 05-21-2007 03:08 PM

RE: Varmint Hunting
 

ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr

With small game like bunnies and squirrels you want a blunt or judo tip, not a broad head. They don't kill them like a deer or bigger pest. They kill by shock. It transfers the energy into the animaland pretty much stuns them to death, and I'm sure breaks some bones at the same time. Possibly snapping the neck.

I have shot bunnies and squirrels with both broad heads (mechanicals) and blunt tips. The blunts work much better. It anchors them right on the spot usually. They don't run and bleed, they just flip over and die. Doesn't really matter where you hit them either, just aim for the middle of the body or front shoulder.

Now with a raccoon or woodchuck I don't know if I would use a blunt tip or not. Those are pretty decent sized and tough critters. You may just piss one off doing that unless you had a heavy arrow and a bow with mucho KE. I wouldn't want to do it with mine I know that.

I think large cut mechanicals would work good for those critters. Or better yet cheap good flying fixed heads. Take my word for it, shooting at woodchucks with a bow will result in some ruined arrows;).

Paul
I concur with everthing paul said here .... I love shooting small game with a bow .... the judo heads DEFINITELY crush bone ... deadly on small game, rabbit size and under ..... I have killed over a dozen woodchucks, and I can tell you, a broadhead works the best .... now that I have updated into the 21st century ... I'm afraid of breaking my carbons for a woodchuck[>:].... aluminuims are so much cheaper ..... inevitably though, one will mess with my wife's dogs, and I will be forced to send an arrow through some more chucks this year.....

dogslayer 05-21-2007 10:00 PM

RE: Varmint Hunting
 
Bone and tissue gets stuck in the judo's ,,, I didn't like them at all . For me - If it's on the ground , G5 SGH (best small game head out there , I've tried them all ) , If it's in a tree or around rocks - blunt tip . I 've shot a dozen or so rabbits with broadheads and have had great results with those too ,, but I think shot placment is a little more critical for a fast kill , and it's probably overkill for somthing like that . But I wouldn't trust a small game head for a critter as large or mean as a coon . Thants my 2 cents .


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