offset or helical for blazers
 

Ive been playing around with my blazers and using different degrees of offset, I havent tried helical at all. I was wondering if anyone has tried both and had any noticable differences. My arrows seem to fly awsome out to 50yards, havent tried any further yet. Thats shooting with the G5 Strikers not just field tips,so Im not sure if its even worth going to helical.

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Either is better than straight, but I fletch mine right helical......I believe that's the method Bohning recommends as well.

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Yeah, Im not a big fan of straight fletched arrows either. Im using maybe an 1/8'' offset at most and it seems to work great.

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I have tried both with little difference. I use helical because thats what the clamps for my jig are. I borrowed straight clamps from a friend to try offset. We both use Jo-Jan fletching jigs. He is always borrowing my helical clamps for his feathers. I like the look of helical better although they flew the same or I should say that with my skill level there was no noticable difference. A better archer may be able to tell.

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Im guessing cause of how short they are, that helical probably wouldnt slow it down too much more then a slight offset. At least insided 60yards or so.

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I've got a right-offset helical on my blazers and they do the trick. It's hard to get much offset with the 2" blazer vane.

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If you want to shoot past 50 yards at game get a .270 winchester!

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Took a total of 6 replies for the ethics police to show up.
Helical on a blazer is a tough buy, just too small. I would use a little offset at best.

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I use the RH clamp on my Bitz to fletch 2" Blazers and all it bassically ends up as is a very slight twist that you barely notice. However, I do believe that it is ALWAYS best to try to impart some spin on any hunting arrow.

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From Bohning Webpage:


How should Blazer vanes be fletched?
We recommend fletching Blazer vanes with a helical or a 2 to 3 degree offset.

They're jig that is specific for Blazers has this offset.

I don't think you can go wrong either way. I've had some people tell me helical and some tell me offset.

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I'm with the others, just too short for helical to really do any good. I use a slight offset on all my arrows, seems to work fine for me. And you need as much offset or helical on these as you would a softer vane.

They shoot about as good as feathers do for me, just don't have any forgiveness is all.

And using these vanes with a straight fletch defeats the purpose of using them, you might as well use a larger cheaper vane if you are going that route. Actually feathers work the best if you are using a straight fletch becuase they have a natural curve to them anyway and they have more drag.

Paul

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I use a right clamp in my Bitz, works great.

Shane

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Even though you are correct in saying it's not a visually obvious as a 4" vane, it's still there. You can see it, and it's effective. The amount of helical is the same, it's just proportionate to the fletching size. A 4" feather doesn't have as much as a 5" feather, but it's still there.

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Thanks for the info guys, minus the ethics police. I shoot alot further than 50 yards, just not usualy at animals. I think I would choose a 300 over a 270 anyway ha ha.

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I use right helical for 2" blazers off my Bitzenburger. Its a good set up. My arrows fly very well and my groups are good and tight assuming I do my part.

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If you want to be the ethics police... go somewhere else, maybe like a lawfirm.

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Don't people take shots with a bow at antelope past that range?

Plus, if it's between 50 and 125 or so a good handgun would be acceptable.;)

Or, ashotgun with slugs.

Or, a muzzle loader.

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I'm sure there are people out west that regularly take shots at game out to 40 and 50 yards. There just isn't that much cover in some places. Prong Horns probably require a farther than normal shot as well I would think.

Paul

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Ok, this thread was started asking about offset or helical for blazer vanes not ethical or unethical distances. Im not apposed to a thread starting for that but I really didnt intend on this one going there.

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I'll be fletching mine with offset and let you know how it went.

Sorry Dave,

My comment was more about distances you can shoot than about ethics. And when you talk about distances you talk about stabilizing the arrow over a longer distance.

From my understanding of their site. The Blazers allow that without having to use helical. Of course, the twist is so small that I doubt the helical looks much different from the offset.

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I agree with this. You can also offset the helical clamp a little bit too, at least with the bitzenburger.

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I offset my Blazers on my ACC's using a Bitz. I don't have the helical clamp and have never had a need for one. The offset gives me perfect arrow flight/broadhead stabilization out of a well tuned bow and matched arrow.

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I just got my Bitz with straight and put offset on arrows. Here's the end product. You can clearly see the offset on the bottom arrow.