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statjunk 05-03-2007 08:22 AM

Holding Pin Steady Problems
 
Hey guys,

I've got some issues that I'm trying to work through and would like to get some opinions on how I should proceed.

First some background.

My bow has new string from vapor trail.
The bow was tuned after having the string put on.
According to several shop people over several visits the bow fits me. (I'm 5'8" and the DL is 28-28.5")
I'm shooting brand new Carbon Express 350's with blazer vanes
100gr field tips

I used to shoot pretty darn good. Then I started screwing with something that worked. I tried going to back tension. I didn't like or didn't have the right guidence to get it right. Then I changed my anchor point to behind my ear, then I changed my relase length, changed my bow string etc...

I've always had week shoulders from over lifting in HS and not lifting correctly. So recently I had my bow turned down to 52lbs. This has made drawing the bow a breeze and I really like it. I was shooting 64lbs before I had it turned down. When I initially started shooting my bow it was set to 72lbs and I could pull that back without much trouble but holding it there wasn't very pleasant (because of my weak shoulder).

I'm having two issues right now that are really troubling me.

1) I can't seem to hold my pin steady.

and

2) I really want to just let the arrow go. It feels like I'm rushing the shot. Causing my accuracy to be truly horrible. Several inches at 20 yards and I used to shoot under 1.5" at 20 if not even better than that.

Any suggestions on how I should start to figure this out?

Thanks

Tom

mobow 05-03-2007 08:41 AM

RE: Holding Pin Steady Problems
 
Target panic. There are several ways to cure it, but basically what you need to do is reprogram your brain. You need to let your brain know that you are in control and it's not.


If you do a google search for target panic you will get several good methods of curing it. I've suffered from that for years, it comes and goes. Blind bale, blind bale, blind bale.

huntingson 05-03-2007 08:46 AM

RE: Holding Pin Steady Problems
 

ORIGINAL: mobowhuntr

You need to let your brain know that you are in control and it's not.

I don't get it.

Germ 05-03-2007 09:09 AM

RE: Holding Pin Steady Problems
 
Stat I think it is an over tweaking issue.

I think you have messed with your setup and style so much you have "forgotten" how to shoot. I did the exact same thing5 years ago. I started messing with my DL and back tension releases. I got worst as a shooter. I went from the #1 indoor shooter at our club to not even in the top ten.

2 years ago I went back to my scott release and draw length I have had since I was 16. Slowly but surelyI am coming back to form.

Good luck.

MichaelHunsucker 05-03-2007 09:21 AM

RE: Holding Pin Steady Problems
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

I think you have messed with your setup and style so much you have "forgotten" how to shoot.
I agree, i would just go back to the basics and what feels natural for you. You need to clear your head mentally and start over.

Red Lion 05-03-2007 09:32 AM

RE: Holding Pin Steady Problems
 
Statjunk I can currently relate to you. I had a new vapor trail string put on my bow and changed release to a copperhead xt, and then proceeded to lighten/adjustthe trigger and the adustable strap and ended up with trouble. I had a few flyers, not even on target,very poor acuracy, began to get jumpy and rush to release, adjusted the trigger again, but went the wrong way and lightened it, and had a premature misfire. I started last night when adjusting my release much stiffer, lengthened that release strap back out to comparible to old release and began to more slowly shoot at 20 yards. I guess I am thinking like you and as other have suggested, go back to the basics that have worked and get back to being comfortable.
Good luck.

HuntingBry 05-03-2007 10:37 AM

RE: Holding Pin Steady Problems
 
The others are right. We tend to mess ourselves up by overthinking things and listening to all of the "coaches" online. I've learned (the hard way) that if you're shooting well and your set up works, don't change a thing. Guys will make suggestions and we'll read what we're supposed to do online, but you have to ask yourself "What will this make better?" If you don't have a good answer, don't change anything.

It's not that we shouldn't strive for improvement, but you have to look at the risk vs. the reward.

Another thing I noticed was that you seem to have made a lot of changes at once. If you want to improve and think a change will help, do it one step at a time. That way if it doesn't work you know it and can disregard it. If you make 3 changes at once and get screwed up you don't know which change has you messed up.

Bob H in NH 05-03-2007 10:38 AM

RE: Holding Pin Steady Problems
 
Ummmm, if you anchor point is "behind your ear" then your draw length is probably to long. At 5'8" with 28.5" dl, I would say you might be to long as well. Can't tell for sure without pictures however.



in da woods 05-03-2007 11:34 AM

RE: Holding Pin Steady Problems
 
I'd kinda have to agree w/Bob H, your draw length seems 2 long. Concentrate on your form rather than where the arrow is hitting. There is a very good article in F&S from 2005 on form. The author wrote about a guy name Terry Wunderle. He is a US & World Champion Compound bow shooter. His technique for concentrating on form is what the article is all about. Since I've read that article & applied those techniques, my shooting has greatly improved. PM me & I'll get u that info.

Diesel77 05-03-2007 11:38 AM

RE: Holding Pin Steady Problems
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

2 years ago I went back to my scott release and draw length I have had since I was 16. Slowly but surelyI am coming back to form.

Good luck.
WOW!! Since you were 16?? They made releases back then?? I aint buyin it!

hehe sorry G-man


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