Tribute & Ally Same Bow???
 

I was at an archery shop today looking at some new bows. I was comparing the Tribute and the Allegence. A guy who works there told me they were the exact same bow, but the Tribute just has shorter strings bringing the limbs closer to parallel. Is this true or was he just being a salesman. I had never heard this before.

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Well sort of but not. When you get all done changing limb orientations you have a different bow. One has higher brace height, one weighs a little more, speeds are a little different, axle to axle is different, etc. They shoot different.

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What I am really asking, is it the same riser and limbs with a shorter string? This is what the guy told me and I had not heard that before.

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They have a different riser. They are different bows, I think your dealer was blowing something somewhere you don't want it.

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NO.The Tribute is more parallel then the Allegence and the Allegence is a bit faster.:D

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The guy doesn't know his bow line he's selling.

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That's what I thought!![:'(][:'(]

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I bet BowTec would appreciate that[&:].

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Exactly!! He needs his dealership Bowtech rights taken away.
Edit: Maybe he is just a dumb employee and not the owner.

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I just bought a 2007 Tribute and am loving it (sore arms/back and all).
It is smooth, fast and accurate.

Giving the guy some benefit of the doubt, the bows appear to have been much more similar in 06, with of course different limb orientation (feel free to correct me if I am wrong). But for 2007 the Allegiance has a new, lighter riser compared to 06, while the Tribute retains the same riser (apparently with some adjustment to the cams). For 2007 the bows don't even have the same number of cutouts.

As these bows are the same price, I thought I was going to buy the Allegiance due to slightly better speed and lighter weight, but after shooting these bows a lot (at same length, draw weight, and both with speed cams), I went with Tribute.

As stated, the Tribute is a little heavier and at my setting was about
5 fps slower, but I thought the draw on the Tribute was a little smoother/easier, it is shorter axle (I only plan on hunting), and it just felt a little better at the shot (less vibration). Based on these personal impressions, I overlooked the minor difference in speed and went with the Tribute. It was a tough choice to make between these two great bows.

If you are really interested in both bows, I would have the shop (preferably another person) set up the bows identically, shoot them side by side, and go with which one feels best.

This is my first post here, but since I just bought a Tribute I felt like putting in my 2 cents.

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Welcome to the forum, and congrats on your new baby! Yes, the Trib and the Ally do feel VERY similar, and it is indeed a tough choice for a lot of people... It's hard to go wrong with either one.

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I hope no one takes this the wrong way but when I tried them out (I'm not a fan of that short of a bow), with the Alli being so similiar but faster, smoother etc TO ME ANYWAY, the Triby seem obsolete. Now again, don't take that wrong, several may favor that smaller bow, I simply didn't.

I love my Alli but I am positive that I would love the Tribute if the Allegiance didn't exist. I just couldn't understand both lines (minus the ATA factor).

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My thoughts exactly...........I don't see why anyone would choose a Tribute when the Ally exists.

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1:47........Monday April 16th, 2007.

I agree with Rob AND Atlasman!

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Some say that they feel the Tribute is smooter thant the Allegiance. I don't see it if the Allegiance has the smooth mods, but that is very subjective. I agree that I can't see the attraction to the Tribby with the Allegiance being available.

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The Tribute obsolete. That's pretty funny! Why don't you call up Bowtech and tell them that next year they should only sell one bow and declare all other bows obsolete.

I may not be as experienced in the ways of archery as you guys are but I just liked the Tribute a little better. More about my decision on the two bows with no accessories, speed mods and set at only about 56#:

(1) There was very little difference in speed at this setting (chron'd). I will hunt at 60# and I recognize there will be around 5 fps difference. But the Tribute even at 60# is plenty fast (Birth Certificate IBO rating of 300 fps).

(2) The Tribute is about 2" shorter ATA and has a 1/2" more brace height.

(2) I did not think the Allegiance was as smooth to pull back. It should not be surprising that two bows with different risers, two different ATAs, and two different limb angles would be different on the draw. I liked the draw on the Tribute better. It makes sense that the faster bow might take more energy to draw.

(3) There was more hand shock (twang) with the Allegiance. I'm sure that
after accessories this distinction could be limited. But bare bow, the Tribute felt better at release.

(4) Lastly, the weight difference was not important to me. I am going to sit in a treestand with my bow. If I were hunting elk in Colorado then I would have seriously thought about the weight differential.

(5) Tribute includes donation to the troops.

I really like both bows and would have been happy with the Allegiance, I just happened to like the Tribute a little more. Obviously this is one of those personal preference things.

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The riser is definitely longer on the Allegiance. Hence the $50 higher price tag in the 2 shops I saw them in.

The advice that I gotis that if you have a long draw length you are better off going with thelonger ATA Allegiance. If not it's your choice. I'm pretty sure they both have the exact same cams. Therefore, I do not see how there could be any discernible difference between the 2. Except if you take into account what Lebeau is stating.

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Don't be one of those newbies that put words in other's posts. No one said they should declare all other bows obsolete, nor did we say they should sell only one bow. Perhaps you could use that brain of yours and figure out that they could sell several lines that have noticable differences. We/I never once said the Ally is the only bow Bowtech should carry and again, the feelings posted where strictly, personal feelings just like your own! I just personally speculated and posted what I found between the two. When they are so close, so very close to one another and all differences aside, my personal feelings are that the Ally kicked arse and found it interesting that the Triby was produced as is. Perhaps it could have been really made different. The only difference I found when shooting the two was ATA, all else being equal. (obviously I love the Ally and find the Triby equal) That's all.


I Exactly

Everything you found, I found totally opposite so whose right and whose wrong, obviously neither of us just personal feelings. I can't argue your post nor could/can you argue mine, right?

I'm positive that Tribute owners love it, what's not to love, it's an incredible bow, incredible. I'd love it too!

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Allright,

I don't want to get in a mod's doghouse on post 3.

I guess having a brand new $$$ bow the word "obsolete" kinda set me off. I get the gist of what you are saying though, why have two similar bows and not upgrade or further distinguish the Tribute from the Allegiance?
Even though I chose the 07 Tribute, I'm guessing that 08 might bring larger changes or even the discontinuance of the Tribute.

This is hopefully my last post on this.

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LOL, no worries mate, it's all good just like the bows....:D

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Absolute same thing I was thinking. If he's going to say that he probably should re-think what he's selling and what he knows about his lines. I would consider that a dumb comment.