Treestand design ideas
 

I have buildt some climbing, ladder and hang on tree stands the last couple of months. Well now my family has decided it is my new hobby and to sell them. I have sold all but a few I have made. So my question to the real hunters here at HNI is. What are somt hings you would like to see added to your stand? What I plan is takingthese ideas and seeing what I can come up with and bring them to the best market online right here in these forms. Please remember these stands are centered towards the bowhunter

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honestly i think u aughta be carefull... this day in age u build a stand an sell it to someone an something happens to them while there in it.. u bet there gonna try an get ya for alll u got.. im not sayin your building crap stands or anything but id be lil scared to do it.. but good luck. some kinda foot rest are always nice.

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md i agree with you on that. that is why they all signed waivers. before anymore are sold there will be a product insurance plan on them. this is just the planning stage.

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good thinkin!

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I want it quick to set up, roomy, comfy, as strong as Gibraltor and weighing around 12-15 pounds fully loaded. You make it you've made millions. At least make it less than 20 pounds.

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roomys what i look for

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Quiet, lightweight, comfortable, and easy to hang. Basically the Lone Wolf Alpha Hangon but sold at 1/2 the price.

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big platform light 12-15 for portables

17-20 ft. high for ladder stands and a good seat foot rest and big platform

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Just a side note to add. I am trying to work on when ladder stand breaks down you can use it as a carry cart. Yes 20' mountable wheels.

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I did a lot of shopping before I just recently got my first climber. One thing that I noticed them all missing was a way to tighten the "platform" section to the tree. They all come with a strap to tighten the seat to the tree, and you have to tie a rope to both sections to keep the platform from possibly falling. I imagine this is because it's difficult and dangerous to reach down to foot level to attach a strap.
Do you suppose there would be a way to design something that's foot operated that could accomplish this? If you could, I'd definitetly buy it.

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While you're at it, I want a Mercedes S55 for the price of a Ford Fusion.

And I wouldn't mind a Movado watch for the price of a Fossil watch either, so if you can fit that in your schedule put me down for one.

As other people touched on already - be very, very careful with making sure you're covering your butt on liability issues. I would unquestionably contact the TMA if you're thinking about commercially distributing and selling any treestand. They're probably going to be your best source of information on what is required to keep you out of trouble.

http://www.tmastands.com/

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Critique this brainstorm I had guys. If it makes millions, I want my share.

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If it were me I would make those loops with a looped bolt or u bolt that goes thru the stand metal. A weld is much cleaner but can not be done the same each time. Especially if hand welded. A bolt and some lock washers/nuts would make me more comfortable if I built it.

I like it otherwise.

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Before the first sale.... assemble your team of Lawyers..You'll need'em

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I want one only 150'' and above bucks walk under:D

LoneWolf, make one better than them and I will buy it(Climber)

Hangon make one better than Gorrila for the price and i will buy it

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MORE COMFORTABLE SEATS!!! So many treestands shave weight by skimping on the seat. Beef it up, makeit a little wider and deeper than the average stand, and you'll have something. I also think that most stands have the seats too low to the platform. Chippewa Treestands have different heights available, and that was a big selling point for me.

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Wheatley - I never really put much thought into how the loops would be attached. Good points.

I'm just thinking that you would hook through the hole on the bottom, wrap it around the tree, cinch it good and tight (maybe give it a couple wraps to hold it steady), then feed it up through the top, give it a couple wraps, then over to the other bracket and ratchet it down. It would be a drag, b/c you'd have rope or nylon webbing strung everywhere, but it would definitely hold your stand in place, and be relativelyeasy to unbuckle when you wanted to climb down. Just one ratchet/buckle/knot.

Lots of guys just don't like not having any supplemental gription to the trunk other than the teeth/band.

I always thought that Loggy Bayou had the best "lockdown" mechanism. You can really ratchet that baby down, and it will not move an inch.

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This was actually the idea I was gonna suggest. That would be great! I've never been a fan of climbers, and I hate carrying a full ladder stand several hundred yards into the woods, rolling it would be nice. How bout cup holders and a 12V plug in so I can charge my cell? ;):)Heck I could even get an invertor, bring mylaptop andget a betterwireless card, I could talk to you guys while I was waiting for deer to come!:DThe foot rest ideas are pretty good too, always nice to be comfy up there in the tree. Maybe some kind of bow holder built in too. I think there is someone that does that already, but its a good idea either way.

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I actually design stands - have designed stands for around 5 years for Lone Wolf. If you've never used one, I'd suggest doing so. The cast platform is the biggest advantage as far as noise, strength, and life cycle. As far as I'm concerned, it solves more problems associated with "in-the-field" features and benefits than anything. It's the stand to beat!

I would highly suggest you look into liability insurance before selling anything, you are putting your personal liability on the line, and if you haven't noticed, there are very few "small" stand manufactures around for this reason.

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I would like to see a stand with fewer straight lines. Jagged edges, curves, whatever. when I walk under a stand the 'squareness' of it really jumps out at me, so just imagine what it may look like to animals of prey.

I've drawn several up, but couldn't figure out an easy way to mass produce them, and the cost of handmade standscould almost be insane.

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Todd - why in god's name don't you guys engineer a way to make the Lone Wolf stands a little darn cheaper! J/K man.

All you wanna-be treestand engineers - look at a few of these contraptions! Couple head-scratchers in this pile.

COMBINATION TREE STAND AND GAME CART
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT3352379

Tree stand
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5482137&id=MWQbAAAAEBAJ&p rintsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=tree+stand+whee ls


Convertible tree stand
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5624008&id=_NUqAAAAEBAJ&p rintsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=tree+stand+whee ls#PPP1,M1

"Accessory for allowing use of a tree stand as a game carrier"
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5887676&id=K2AZAAAAEBAJ&p rintsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=tree+stand+whee ls

Combination tree stand and game cart
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6516919&id=KfgMAAAAEBAJ&p rintsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=tree+stand+whee ls

Tree stand-transport vehicle(Ladder stand/game cart)
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5314042&id=BNEfAAAAEBAJ&p rintsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=tree+stand+whee ls#PPP1,M1

This one is a personal favorite:
Multi-Purpose Deer Hunting Cart (complete with bicycle handlebars and hand brakes)
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6688635&id=V4MQAAAAEBAJ&p rintsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=deer+hunting#PP P1,M1

Almost all these are patented within the past 20 years, which begs the question - Did these people really think that these contraptions were really going to be a hit with the consuming public? You'd need a PhD to put a few of these things together.

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:DIt can't hurt to dream. Lone Wolfs are the mercedes of hang ons IMO. Make something quiet, lightweight, easy to hang, and strong likeLone Wolfhas and you will sell a lot. Bowhunters are a different breed than gun hunters and we want all of these features in our stands. We are way more particular than a gun hunter is when it comes to spending our money on a stand.

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Tree stand manufactures have the highest liability insurance cost of any archery related product, and with good reason. Does anyone remember Baker Tree Stands?

Seriously, either build them for your own use or design and patent a new one and license the patent rights to an existing company. If one guy falls out of one of your stands and sues you, and he will, your done, Mom and Dad's house is gone, and you are bummin!

I know you're excited at the prospect of making a career out of this, and who wouldn't be?, but don't blow-off the VERY LIKELY major consequences!

-Sharps

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Liability is a concern but right now I'm looking at design. One change I have made is a locking device on stand for your bow it is padded and there is no movement of bow. The cable idea I think could work. These are the ideas I am looking for at this time.

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A built in self winding bow string retriever that does not stick out the side and in the way, but consealed inside. A good painted on camo. I get tired of seeing plain gray, or plain olive drab, or stick on camo and get tired of painting my own stands.