Are some bucks impossible to kill????
 

All the "mature bucks" conversations got me thinking and lead to my question, are some bucks impossible to kill? Say that a hunter has permission to hunt a 150 acrepiece of property and that property is surrounded by posted property that sees no hunting. Can there be a buck on that 150 acre piece of property that is impossible to hunt.

The reasoning for this question is because I have heard this comment from numerous hunters, and in some aspects it applies to me. Last season I knew where a big buck was living, the only problem was that the land made this deer practically impossible to hunt. The property was a hillside of the thickest, nastiest brush you can imagine and this brush was entirely surrounded by standing cornfields. There was a very small creek cutting down the hill through the center of the brush that would provide water for the deer to drink, the brush was a bedding area that was literally impossible to bow hunt (you would pretty much have to belly crawl through it) and the standing corn literally surrounded this bedding area so the deer could feed without ever being seen. This is an ideal spot for a mature buck to live, he has everything he needs in one area that allows him to go about his life without being seen.

In my eyes, this buck was unhuntable, he knew that he was entirely safe in this brush as there was no way to get into it and shoot a bow, and if he wanted to feed he could go anywhere in the 100 acres of corn fields that was surrounding him.

What do you guys think, is their such thing as a buck that is impossible to kill?

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The old saying goes that anything is possible so no I do not believe some bucks are impossible to kill. Improbable maybe because of someone not allowing any hunting.

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I don't know that I would ever say "impossible".........however, what I would say is that you should analyze the situation and allocate your time accordingly...........don't waste it chasing something you have 2 chances (slim and none) of killing. Spend the majority of your time where your chances are better and then pick and choose a few select scenerios that you think would be PERFECT and offer you the BEST chance at that buck even if that BEST chance is still minimal. Peg your "perfect" setup and only hunt that deer when all the chips are in line (wind, time of day, time of season, weather, etc) and give it your best run on those few select chances. This way you don't waste the majority of your time chasing a low percentage long shot...........but you will still feel like you gave it a good run and put in some smart thought out hunts.


Plus if you bag him how sweet will it be to know you beat him with your brains and skill...........instead of just sitting him out.

RE: Are some bucks impossible to kill????
 

not entirely impossible, but i have heard that some old bucks are COMPLETELY nocturnal except for maybe two days a year. idk if its true, but it would explain alot. I think if it wasnt for rut, yes some bucks would be impossible to kill simply because they wouldnt be moving during legal hunting hours.

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I sure hope so.

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i wouldn't say imposible but some are very slim chances

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To take a quote from one of my favorite movies " if it bleeds, we can kill it." :D
But to answer your real question. Impossible, no, due to the rut, but way more difficult than what time/luck is warranted to put in, YES!

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During the rut ANYTHING is poissible...;)

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There was a very good article on this very subject in one of the magazines I read a few months ago. I can't remember which one, but I think it was either Deer & Deer Hunting or Bowhunting World. Anyway, the article stated that after a deer reaches a certain age, usually 5.5 to 6.5 years old, it does not engage in the chasing of does during the rut. It will breed maybe 2-3 does per season and does not fight or chase, mostly because at that age it does not have to. In areas that receive any significant hunting pressure these bucks are almost exclusively nocturnal and are definitely nocturnal during hunting season. So, by this line of thoughta buck that fits this description is theoreticallyimpossible to kill...legally, that is.

BM, the buck you are referring too would be very difficult to hunt and kill, but not impossible. If he moves during daylight hours you can get him. You will most likely have to abandon traditional hunting methods (i.e. treestands, or ground blinds) and employ some more unconventional methods. One might be a pit blind very close to a trail that is used in the brush. Another might be a stalk through the corn (if allowed by the landowner). As Atlas said you would have to wait for the perfect conditions, but I think you could get him. And if you did, what a trophy he would be regardless of size.

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I'd say yes in the event that the deer roams land that is inaccessible (without breaking the law of course). If you can't get to him or him to you... you can't kill him.

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exactly.

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I don't know who you are, but what have you done with Atlas?

The above is great advice, I will add unless you know the buck is there it is hard to kill him.

Most of us(me too) simple do not know what is in our woods. We have an idea, but unless we have the woods under 24 hr watch, we just do not know.

There was 180'' double drop tine buck killed along US 23 in 2001. I drove by where this deer was killed everyday. I never layed eyes on him, and neither did anyone I know. Someone saw him got permission to hunt the land(land owner did not even know) and killed the deer.

Ghost bucks do exist IMO, but these guys are 5.5 and up, and they know things:D

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I agree. Another reason for trail cams. We got pictures of 3 bucks that we did not see one time during the season (I got a camera for Xmas). They are fun for seeing what is out there when you are not.

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Huntingbry, i think i read that exact article. I think it was saying that once they reach that age, they know the deal and become more concerned with survival instead of breeding and fighting.

As for impossible to kill bucks. I dont think that there is any deer that is impossible to kill, although some seem it. I read in one magazine one time, think about how many trees a deer walks by in a day- Thousands. You could have a tree stand in any one of them. A deer has to move atleast alittle bit dureing daylight hours. I might be mistaken, but i have heard they have to eat every 4-5 hours, not necessarily a ton, but they will browse alittle, there has to be atleast a slim shot at getting every buck.
So in closing, i guess there is no impossible bucks to kill, just the ones im after![:@]

RE: Are some bucks impossible to kill????
 

I believe some bucks are unkillable (because of where they live, or they're personalities). If I'm wrong, we'd have far more record-book bucks falling every year!

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depends on who is hunting him

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I think most are killable, but given the right obstacles like in your situation, anything can happen.

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Legally yes.

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all it takes for a buck is one mistake and he's toast.

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I sure hope so too!!

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Like others have said,impossible no,unlikely yes.When an older buck values survival more than procreation that is going to be one difficult animal to kill.You will either have to get very lucky or have someone put them on their feet having them head in your direction.

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I feel as if I could of wrote that post. In hunting a perticular buck they can be kind of ghostly. I've hunted a couple of those ghost in my life over a several year period and for some reason he kept busting and eluding me and then he came in on my scent line and came in at 8oclock to my left 5 ft away and he just froze, I am screwed cause I shoot a bow LH, I was watching him through the corners of my eyes and tried to hold back the blinks as my heart was racing out of my chest, he's not moving,my eyes started burning from not blinking and tearing up and then he blew and was gone. What the hell.!!! I have'nt a clue and after haveing this short of thing happened to me several times a year and for several years its kinda like encountering something that knew me better than I know myself.

Bobby

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I train in mixed martial arts once to twice a week, and also lift and do cardio. I lift lighter weights for building endurance as opposed to heavy weightstrying to get maximum strength. With the cardio I do more sprints than long distance running, although I do the occasional four to six mile jog just to mix things up.

Being fit helps a great deal in deer hunting. Even if I don't bag a deer, I still feel more aware of how I can best be alert while on stand though proper nutrition.Being fit also helps to have the energy to carry all of my equipment in and out of the woods.I never go on stand in the morning without eating a good breakfast. You would be surprisedwith how carbs really help staying observant while on stand.

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Sorry, my lastwas supposed to go into the fitness thread. [&:]