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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
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Atlas here is a great site, I order the maps for KY from here. I got the Hybrid maps. They are topo/aerial map in one here is an example. I always start with a map and what is around the area I am looking at. What is next to the area is more important to me.   |
RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
This is a great thread. I only DISAGREE with Hardcore and Silverflicker;)Buy your tags for Iowa and Kansas. Illinois should be great this year too :D
Honestly, a lot of great posts here. For bedding areas... I say try toidentifythem and then STAY OUT. There is only one time a year that I will enter a known bedding area and that is when I am retrieving a dead deer. Although, I think that planting small tucked away food plots on the edges of bedding areas and hunting them can be very productive. More so than just hunting the edge of the bedding area. However, that is only based on my experiences. |
RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
Alot has to do with where you live and hunt . I live in south Florida , If I only hunted down here my chances are close to 0 of ever killing a buck over 90 - 100 inches .
Someone who lives in Illinois has a totally different perspective than myself . One thing is for sure you cant kill them if they don't live where you are hunting . |
RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
Says the guy from Florida, how true, how true
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RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
Some of us don't buy the "How to kill trophy buck" books because we want it to be easy to kill trophy bucks. Some of us don't really give a rat's ass about killing trophy bucks but we DO care about becoming better deer hunters. We buy these "trophy" books to gain insight into becoming better deer hunters because we think the author, if he can kill trophy bucks, can certainly give us the information to become better deer hunters.
For some of you to say we don't have the same desire or the same discipline as a trophy hunter is BS in my book. We have every bit as much desire and discipline as you "trophy" hunters but perhaps we are satisfied to be a good deer hunter. We sit in foul weather as long as you do, get up just as early, stay just as late,are just as patient as you and work just as hard as you do. To imply otherwise....:eek: As far as the derogatory public land statement, that just shows a lack of knowledge. To assume everyone's public land hunting is similar to yours in ILL is ignorant at best. |
RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
Great post. I used to think that if i ever wanted to kill a P&Y book buck i was going to have to go out west, texas or canada. I never thought that it was possible to get one here in NJ without being extremely lucky. The largest buck that i have seen might have gone 135 here, which is a monster, but i thought that wasa 1-million. Actually i take that back, i have seen 2 book bucks. Anyhow, few and far between i thought. Last year before the season started, imet afriends buddy named Rick. Well for some reason Rich and i hit it off and he took me under his wing and showed me things i never even knew to look for and told me not only where and when to hunt a particular area, but also the reason behind it. Rich killed 3 pope and young bucks last year and another deer that would have been but killed it with a gun. (In NJ you can kill up to 6 Bucks if you have all the right tags.) When i questioned him on it, he mentioned that he only kills deer of that caliber now and has been for the last 4-5 years. I never even knew these deer lived in the area. Now i have higher goals, i havent killed one but atleast i know they are there.
My point is that like someone mentioned earlier, im sure there are a few "monster" deer where everyone hunts. By monster i mean by local standards, that might be a 100 deer of a booner, all depends. Just cause we arent seeing them doesnt mean they are there, i found that out and if i didnt meat my new pal, i would still think i had to pay for an expensive tripto the promised land. Also look at people who post trail camera pictures stating "Look at this monster, i never even knew there were deer like this in the area." They are out there, doesnt mean we will get them, but i do think they are more common than we think, no matter where we are. Likemany people mentioned,it all comesdown to desire. My friend Rich spends atleast 40 hours a week in the woods come deer season, i cant put that kind of time in cause of other priorities. Wish i could but thats life. Other things such asfamily and big game fishing aremore important and cut into my time. Do i want to kill the biggest buck out there- hells yeah, i just have to work alittle harder for him. Ps- Im going to get that monster this fall and the smile on my face will be from ear to ear!:D |
RE: Why do people think it's supposed to be so easy?
ORIGINAL: njbuck22 Great post. I used to think that if i ever wanted to kill a P&Y book buck i was going to have to go out west, texas or canada. I never thought that it was possible to get one here in NJ without being extremely lucky. The largest buck that i have seen might have gone 135 here, which is a monster, but i thought that wasa 1-million. Actually i take that back, i have seen 2 book bucks. Anyhow, few and far between i thought. Last year before the season started, imet afriends buddy named Rick. Well for some reason Rich and i hit it off and he took me under his wing and showed me things i never even knew to look for and told me not only where and when to hunt a particular area, but also the reason behind it. Rich killed 3 pope and young bucks last year and another deer that would have been but killed it with a gun. (In NJ you can kill up to 6 Bucks if you have all the right tags.) When i questioned him on it, he mentioned that he only kills deer of that caliber now and has been for the last 4-5 years. I never even knew these deer lived in the area. Now i have higher goals, i havent killed one but atleast i know they are there. My point is that like someone mentioned earlier, im sure there are a few "monster" deer where everyone hunts. By monster i mean by local standards, that might be a 100 deer of a booner, all depends. Just cause we arent seeing them doesnt mean they are there, i found that out and if i didnt meat my new pal, i would still think i had to pay for an expensive tripto the promised land. Also look at people who post trail camera pictures stating "Look at this monster, i never even knew there were deer like this in the area." They are out there, doesnt mean we will get them, but i do think they are more common than we think, no matter where we are. Likemany people mentioned,it all comesdown to desire. My friend Rich spends atleast 40 hours a week in the woods come deer season, i cant put that kind of time in cause of other priorities. Wish i could but thats life. Other things such asfamily and big game fishing aremore important and cut into my time. Do i want to kill the biggest buck out there- hells yeah, i just have to work alittle harder for him. Ps- Im going to get that monster this fall and the smile on my face will be from ear to ear!:D |
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ORIGINAL: njbuck22 Likemany people mentioned,it all comesdown to desire. My friend Rich spends atleast 40 hours a week in the woods come deer season, |
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Brucelanthier, when you put it that way, you are 100% correct. I wish i could do it to buts its not possible for me at this point in my life.
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I think Desire might be the wrong word for this thread. Reason being: Don't we all desire to hunt as much as possible? Is there really oneus who wouldn't want to spend all day, everyday, the entire season in the woods. I know I sure would love to be able to that. Do I have the desire to do that, yep, can I, nope. Sothe word desire is probably a little misleading for this topic. NJ, You hit this right on the nose with that long post of yours. Deer are there, sometimes it just takes a little thing like a chance meeting with someone who knows a little more than yourself. I didn't think there were many big deer on the public land I hunt, until I found a little "sanctuary" (not really, but it sure seems like it since no one hunts it), now I KNOW there are big bucks in that area. I studied the maps I had of the area and was able to figure out what this spot had the rest of the land didn't. That chance drive-by I made on this tract during the season ended up making me into a better hunter.
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