Thinking about a new release
02-18-2007, 12:58 PM
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RE: Thinking about a new release
ORIGINAL: TFOX
You say you don't use a hair trigger,great.So you can put your finger on the release without problems.What I am trying to get people to understand is why hairtriggers are not as good as advertised.You asked for ups or downs.I am giving you the downside.
You say you don't use a hair trigger,great.So you can put your finger on the release without problems.What I am trying to get people to understand is why hairtriggers are not as good as advertised.You asked for ups or downs.I am giving you the downside.
When I say it goes off without you wanting it to,I am talking about a misfire,that is a completely different kind of surprise.
Just because you are tired when this occurs,doesn't mean it won't lead to tp,that is how it starts in most of us.
) is something you should look into. Kinda like someone going out to play football and trying not to get hurt..........if your goal of shooting is not to develope target panic then it's only a matter of time.
Most of us shoot bad when we get tired.You say you think it will solve some bad habbits when in fact,the hairtrigger will cause some bad habits,which lead to tp.Better off to just rest a little bit.
I have had tp.A friend of mine was a VERY GOOD target shooter and he got it so bad he had to quit altogether for a while.It took bt release and aiming practice for both of us.
I am not saying you have target panick NOW,I am saying with your habbits when you get tired,that can multiply into target panick.Maybe it will and maybe it won't,just giving you the downside that you asked for.It can be a slow process or a long one,or maybe it will never affect you.It all depends onthe person.
Sorry I gave you what you didn't want to hear.
By the way,this info about hairtriggers was given to me by one of the countries most respected teachers in the archery industry.He travels the country training and testing coaches for several archery organizations.He is a level 4 coach and level 5 is the highest you can get.
Take it for what it is worth.
Take it for what it is worth.
I have a question for ya..........what is the definition of a "hair trigger"?? With the adjustability of releases today you can shoot from almost no pressure to a pretty stiff pull.........where is the line between the target panic inducer and safe?
02-18-2007, 01:20 PM
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RE: Thinking about a new release
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO
You've provided some great info on this thread, TFOX... reminds me of a saying I once heard: "He who has ears to hear, let him hear."
You've provided some great info on this thread, TFOX... reminds me of a saying I once heard: "He who has ears to hear, let him hear."
You guys are hilarious.............can't even ask opinions about a release without a diagnosis of target panic..........and then denial.
I shot a 296 round of 3D with my brothers league last week............forgive me if I don't lose any sleep over my bad habits and imminent target panic
I have seen target panic............my good friend had a pretty weird experience with it 2 years ago. I am not trying to dismiss it or diminish it's possible impact.........I am just not going to sit around worrying about something and looking for even the slightest hint of it's existence.
You guys need to relax a little bit.
02-18-2007, 01:23 PM
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RE: Thinking about a new release
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Yea the head is pretty small. I shot with Mo Bowhntr today and he shoots a carter and it was slightly bigger than his carter that only has a hook. It doesnt have a caliper head on it. I like mine, but Mo Bow didnt like it after shooting his carter, but carters are a little more pricey. The tru fire is a lot less sensitive than the carter. Hope this helps.
Matt
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Cool........are the calipers small because they look it. I am looking for a small set of jaws to fit in a smaller loop.
ORIGINAL: MOmightymite
I just switched from a Scott mongoose to a TRU Fire 3D Hunter thumb release. Tonight was my first time shooting it, but I love the way it fits just behind my jaw bone. With my wrist release I never really had a good anchor, but with the thumb style i feel solid everytime. It may be worth looking into.
I just switched from a Scott mongoose to a TRU Fire 3D Hunter thumb release. Tonight was my first time shooting it, but I love the way it fits just behind my jaw bone. With my wrist release I never really had a good anchor, but with the thumb style i feel solid everytime. It may be worth looking into.
Matt
Which Carter does he have?
02-18-2007, 07:33 PM
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RE: Thinking about a new release
ORIGINAL: atlasman
I shot a 296 round of 3D with my brothers league last week............forgive me if I don't lose any sleep over my bad habits and imminent target panic
I shot a 296 round of 3D with my brothers league last week............forgive me if I don't lose any sleep over my bad habits and imminent target panic
The friend I spoke of was shooting up scores in 3d in the open class and thought he had everything going his way when it hit him.
Get a release with little or no travel in the trigger but has to have pressure to go off.
I'm out
02-18-2007, 08:43 PM
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RE: Thinking about a new release
Atlas..
Haven't made up my mind just yet on the sight. But have learned alot of great things about the Viper. It just may become my new sight. Want to get a better feel for the G5 first.
Haven't made up my mind just yet on the sight. But have learned alot of great things about the Viper. It just may become my new sight. Want to get a better feel for the G5 first.
02-18-2007, 08:57 PM
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RE: Thinking about a new release
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The friend I spoke of was shooting up scores in 3d in the open class and thought he had everything going his way when it hit him.
The friend I spoke of was shooting up scores in 3d in the open class and thought he had everything going his way when it hit him.
Get a release with little or no travel in the trigger but has to have pressure to go off.
Thanks for the input.
02-18-2007, 09:00 PM
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RE: Thinking about a new release
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Atlas..
Haven't made up my mind just yet on the sight. But have learned alot of great things about the Viper.
Atlas..
Haven't made up my mind just yet on the sight. But have learned alot of great things about the Viper.
It just may become my new sight. Want to get a better feel for the G5 first.
02-18-2007, 09:35 PM
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RE: Thinking about a new release
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I did fix it,it was called bt and aiming practice.I then started shooting up scores,beforeI quit shooting competitively.
I did fix it,it was called bt and aiming practice.I then started shooting up scores,beforeI quit shooting competitively.
That story seems backwards.........most guys hang it up when they are shooting out the lights (literally) and stick withit when they areshootin' lights out (figuratively).
Glad you beat it man..........and thanks for theinfo.