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atlasman 02-09-2007 08:56 PM

Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
Anyone have either one of these sights? I think I am narrowed down to these 2 but any other suggestions would be welcome for a hunting/3D sight.

I like them both and I'm not really sure if either has any negatives.

The Viper



The G5



Washington Hunter 02-09-2007 08:58 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
I would not reccommend that G5 to anyone.

have you had a chance to check it out in person? Those pins are about as bright as I am when it comes to adding my 5-spot scores.

They aren't bright at all without a light on them. If you plan on hunting any low light times, I wouldn't use this sight.

I can't say anything about the Viper as I haven't seen/used it.

buckeye 02-09-2007 08:59 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
I have an Optix, it is a sweet sight. Very light and the micro adjustments work great on it.

dukemichaels 02-09-2007 09:00 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
You know.. I was actually just about to post on this same topic.:) I hope I can get some honest answers on the G5.

(I'm not trying to steal your thread Atlas.)

mobow 02-09-2007 09:00 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
I'm in precisely the same quandry......I was also looking at the G5 sight, but from what I hear, it's better if you can slide the sight out away from the riser, like on the Viper.

huntingdiva1 02-09-2007 09:01 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

I would not reccommend that G5 to anyone.

have you had a chance to check it out in person? Those pins are about as bright as I am when it comes to adding my 5-spot scores.

They aren't bright at all without a light on them. If you plan on hunting any low light times, I wouldn't use this sight.

I can't say anything about the Viper as I haven't seen/used it.
I agree with what WH said about the G5. I also have not seen the Viper in person. I have a whitegold radient and love it.

Germ 02-09-2007 09:02 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

I have an Optix, it is a sweet sight. Very light and the micro adjustments work great on it.
I just order it for my ROSS, I guess it is out, LOL ;)

Motown has the G5 Atlas PM him, but I use G5 broadheads and they are top notch company.

IMO you can not go wrong with either. For me it would be what looks good on my bow:D

nodog 02-09-2007 09:07 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
I like the viper. Those long fibers bother me though. How do you take the head of the site off? Changing a pin seem like it would be a job. I've seen some of the .10 pins in the viper broken. Maybe they are too fragile.

G5's seem to short for me, buta good workingmicro adjust is important.

atlasman 02-09-2007 09:26 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

I would not reccommend that G5 to anyone.

have you had a chance to check it out in person? Those pins are about as bright as I am when it comes to adding my 5-spot scores.
I was at Gander today and they have them locked up like they are made of gold or something. They are in a glass case and inside a box besides.......I didn't feel like going through a retinal scan just to see one so I didn't bother. I have not seen the pins exposed.........and I don't know anyone with this sight yet.



They aren't bright at all without a light on them. If you plan on hunting any low light times, I wouldn't use this sight
There have been times when I couldn't see my pins (in thick stuff) and it wasn't time to get down yet but mostly it's not something I encounter very often.

Thanks

Mike from Texas 02-09-2007 09:32 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
I don't have any experience with the G5 but I do have (2) of the Vipers and they are an excellent sight. The pins are very dim on the G5 sights I have looked at though and even though they bright, I replaced the factory fibers in my Viperwith Fitz fibers.

The pins are easy to change and if someone broke a pin onthe Viperthey were definitely doing something they shouldn't have been doing, they are very beefy stainless pins.

atlasman 02-09-2007 09:40 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: dukemichaels

You know.. I was actually just about to post on this same topic.:) I hope I can get some honest answers on the G5.

(I'm not trying to steal your thread Atlas.)
Thread stealin' deer nerd [8D]

Seriously man...........our rigs are gonna be pretty close. Do you shoot a Bowtech?





atlasman 02-09-2007 09:42 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: mobowhuntr

I'm in precisely the same quandry......I was also looking at the G5 sight, but from what I hear, it's better if you can slide the sight out away from the riser, like on the Viper.
That is the one thing I do like about the Viper over the G5. Is this feature just so you can get your sight ring fit perfectly in your peep or does it help with focus sort of like parallax in a rifle scope??

buckeye 02-09-2007 09:43 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
[blockquote]

ORIGINAL: dukemichaels

You know.. I was actually just about to post on this same topic.:) I hope I can get some honest answers on the G5.

(I'm not trying to steal your thread Atlas.)
[/blockquote]

If you want some photos or have any specific questions I'd be more than happy to help.

BTW I don't think the pins are near as dim as everyone is making them out to be.

Rob/PA Bowyer 02-09-2007 09:44 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
For what it's worth. I can't say enough good things about the Viper.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1577393&mpage=1

dukemichaels 02-09-2007 09:45 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
No.. sorry atlas.. I am a Hoyt man. I think the Bowtechs are awesome, but my motto is "if it ain't broke don't fix it.";)

Let me know which sight you choose.

atlasman 02-09-2007 09:46 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: Mike from Texas

I don't have any experience with the G5 but I do have (2) of the Vipers and they are an excellent sight. The pins are very dim on the G5 sights I have looked at though and even though they bright, I replaced the factory fibers in my Viperwith Fitz fibers.

The pins are easy to change and if someone broke a pin onthe Viperthey were definitely doing something they shouldn't have been doing, they are very beefy stainless pins.
You saw the G5 in person and it was dim?

I wonder what the G5 would look like with a Fitz upgrade.

Buellhunter 02-09-2007 09:52 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
I don't really want my sight sticking out that far from a hunting bow like the Viper looks like it does.
Too easy to hit/hook/snag it on stuff in the woods or pulling the bow up to your stand.
I like my Trophy Ridge I have been using for the last couple years.
I will be putting a G5 on my new bow and see how I like it.

atlasman 02-09-2007 09:59 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

For what it's worth. I can't say enough good things about the Viper.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1577393&mpage=1
Those threads were part of my research into the Viper.......and in fact, propbably my initial exposure to the sight.

Thanks

nodog 02-09-2007 10:02 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

For what it's worth. I can't say enough good things about the Viper.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1577393&mpage=1
What you did say has made me look at them more than a few times. Didn't know there was a fiber up grade.

atlasman 02-09-2007 10:05 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: dukemichaels

No.. sorry atlas.. I am a Hoyt man.
Great bows.




my motto is "if it ain't broke don't fix it.";)
So is mine.........I am resigned to buying another bow just for fun because my Patriot never fails the Pepsi challenge.



Let me know which sight you choose.
Definately.............this place has the G5 for $119.......cheapest I have seen yet.

http://sunsetridgearchery.com/

mobow 02-09-2007 10:11 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: mobowhuntr

I'm in precisely the same quandry......I was also looking at the G5 sight, but from what I hear, it's better if you can slide the sight out away from the riser, like on the Viper.
That is the one thing I do like about the Viper over the G5. Is this feature just so you can get your sight ring fit perfectly in your peep or does it help with focus sort of like parallax in a rifle scope??
From what I am learning, and experiencing, it's a bit of both. You can indeed move it in or away so that your peep perfectly fits the housing. For me, I think it would help with the focus. My BIGGEST problem right now is my pin is so blurred out, I just can't center it. Moving it away some would help that......or at least I THINK it would.



springcaller 02-09-2007 10:43 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
I just ordered the Viper Sight.
Reasons:
-Three different choices for pin size
-micro tune
-you can add a light in two different places (on the dovetail orsight window)
-small sight window (easy to match peep to)

They also have the PRO2000, they appear to be about the same. I should have mine (MICROTune)in a week or two. I'll let you know how well it works.


nodog 02-10-2007 08:14 AM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: springcaller

I just ordered the Viper Sight.
Reasons:
-Three different choices for pin size
-micro tune
-you can add a light in two different places (on the dovetail orsight window)
-small sight window (easy to match peep to)

They also have the PRO2000, they appear to be about the same. I should have mine (MICROTune)in a week or two. I'll let you know how well it works.

They are nice looking sites. You don't happen to know the window size do you?

springcaller 02-10-2007 12:21 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
Sorry I don't, It looks to be about 2 to 2.25 inches. That is a guess so don't quote me on that.

nodog 02-11-2007 06:30 AM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: springcaller

Sorry I don't, It looks to be about 2 to 2.25 inches. That is a guess so don't quote me on that.
Thanks

Mike from Texas 02-11-2007 10:14 AM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: Mike from Texas

I don't have any experience with the G5 but I do have (2) of the Vipers and they are an excellent sight. The pins are very dim on the G5 sights I have looked at though and even though they bright, I replaced the factory fibers in my Viperwith Fitz fibers.

The pins are easy to change and if someone broke a pin onthe Viperthey were definitely doing something they shouldn't have been doing, they are very beefy stainless pins.
You saw the G5 in person and it was dim?

I wonder what the G5 would look like with a Fitz upgrade.
Yes, I looked at the G5 sights before purchasing the Viper because I was considering them.Again, I can't comment on what a Fiber upgrade would do for the G5 or if it can even be done. I really can't remember how the fibers are installed on them. On the Vipers it about a 5 minute job.

atlasman 02-22-2007 10:17 AM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
Talked to the guy at Viper today (nice guy). I think I am leaning towards the Microtune with a Fitz fiber upgrade. I am trying to decide if I want to go with .029 pins for the top 2 and .019 for the bottom 2 or .019 and .010. I also don't really want to have to take the sight off when I put my bow in the case.

I went to Gander Mountain the other day and all their G5 sights were gone........I asked the guy what was up and he said G5 pulled them in a recall but he didn't know what it was for.

Motown..........if you read this I checked out your Skylight sight and that thing is just plain cool.........do you knwo if it comes in Hardwoods HD??

The pins on that thing look like they are mechanically lit............amazing.

Rick James 02-22-2007 11:50 AM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
One thing to keep in mind guys, that predator sight to my knowledge has very limitedmicro adjust features, the micro adjust function is only for the gang adjustment of the entire pin guard and all pins. Most of the time the fine adjustments that micro adjust is nice for is usually needed for pin by pin adjustments from 20, 30, etc yard marks. On the predator each pin must still be adjustedmanually in the same manner as an old school copper john, sword apex, etc.........just like every other sight on the market. It is a good sight according to what I have heard, but don't buy it because of "micro" adjust features. Sword gives you pretty much the same thing minus the gang micro adjust feature for a LOT less $$$.

I still think the new Copper John is the best sight on the market right now in that price range. Pin by pin micro adjust, adjustable sight bar, 2nd and 3rd axis adjust, micro gang adjust, wrapped and shielded fitz type quality fiber around the pin guard, adjustable sight bar, etc............I have absolutely no monetary connections with Copper Johnand still think their product this year is truly awesome and will be paying full price for mine to compete with.Plus you would be supporting a local company Atlas....they are all designed and manufactured in Auburn, NY in the old bowling alley next to the prison. Lancaster Archery will have their first batch of them in the next 2 weeks, you can order from their website www.lancasterarchery.com.






buckeye 02-22-2007 11:54 AM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
I ordered a new Deadnuts2 4 pin Comp sight. Patiently waiting on it's arrival.

Rick James 02-22-2007 11:57 AM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

I ordered a new Deadnuts2 4 pin Comp sight. Patiently waiting on it's arrival.
Awesome, who did you order from? I am waiting for my next paycheck and then both of my Sword Apex 3rd planes will go up for sale and I will be ordering 2x of the DN2 Comp sights, one in 6 pin, the other in 4 pin. ;)

buckeye 02-22-2007 12:04 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
One of my buddies is the manager of the local Gander Mtn. I had him order it about a week ago. He ordered directly from CJ.

wihunter402 02-22-2007 12:06 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
I got the DN2 Comp 4 pin on order with Lancaster. They told me at first they would be getting them on Feb. 9th but every time I check they keep saying not yet. I hope I hear something soon. I really thought I would have this by now.

MO_Bowhnter 02-22-2007 12:08 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
Hey Rick where can you order from their sight? I don't see it anywhere.

GMMAT 02-22-2007 12:11 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
If anyone is going to order the Viper.....I'd suggest the .019 top and second pin.....and .010 3rd and 4ths. At those distances.....you don't want your pin coveringsuch a largespoton your intended target.

And for the record.....mine fits in my bow case just fine.

Rick James 02-22-2007 12:14 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: MO_Bowhnter

Hey Rick where can you order from their sight? I don't see it anywhere.
You will probably have to call them I guess they haven't updated the sight with the new product yet. It is that new still, only introduced to the market on the last week of January.

MO_Bowhnter 02-22-2007 12:48 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
Yea I'm probably going to end up getting the supreme. I gotta wait a few weeks anyway for the refund check to come in.


atlasman 02-22-2007 04:03 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: Rick James

I still think the new Copper John is the best sight on the market right now in that price range. Pin by pin micro adjust, adjustable sight bar, 2nd and 3rd axis adjust, micro gang adjust, wrapped and shielded fitz type quality fiber around the pin guard, adjustable sight bar, etc
Do you know if it will be available in camo options??



Plus you would be supporting a local company Atlas....they are all designed and manufactured in Auburn, NY in the old bowling alley next to the prison.
My brother is a guard there.........very few people know that Copper John is actually the name of a statueon top ofthe prison. He took a tour of their shop one day and said it was pretty cool. They will definitely get my moneyas a first option. I honestly have not heard of this new sight yet.


Thank you very much for the heads up.




flyfishpj 02-22-2007 04:09 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 
The viper is definately sweet. I have not used it but seen it and played with it a little and I love how far it extends and the brightness of pins.

Rick James 02-22-2007 07:17 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: Rick James

I still think the new Copper John is the best sight on the market right now in that price range. Pin by pin micro adjust, adjustable sight bar, 2nd and 3rd axis adjust, micro gang adjust, wrapped and shielded fitz type quality fiber around the pin guard, adjustable sight bar, etc
Do you know if it will be available in camo options??



Plus you would be supporting a local company Atlas....they are all designed and manufactured in Auburn, NY in the old bowling alley next to the prison.
My brother is a guard there.........very few people know that Copper John is actually the name of a statueon top ofthe prison. He took a tour of their shop one day and said it was pretty cool. They will definitely get my moneyas a first option. I honestly have not heard of this new sight yet.


Thank you very much for the heads up.



They are having problems with the camo dipping process. The tolerances need to be so exact for this sight to work properly because of the amount of micro adjust options that the camo dipping process as of now makes the sight not work properly. I know they are working on finding a dipping facility that can mask off the critical parts of the sight to dip the rest of it so that camo can be available in the future but as of now no camo.

The guys there are really awesome and have a great product. They told me about the statue when I visited about a month ago, I don't know how close you are but they would love to show you around the place if you have the time, they are all very friendly.

MOTOWNHONKEY 02-22-2007 07:35 PM

RE: Viper Microtune or G5 Optix ME??
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

I have an Optix, it is a sweet sight. Very light and the micro adjustments work great on it.
I just order it for my ROSS, I guess it is out, LOL ;)

Motown has the G5 Atlas PM him, but I use G5 broadheads and they are top notch company.

IMO you can not go wrong with either. For me it would be what looks good on my bow:D
Wrong again cheese teeth. I have never owned a G5 sight. I use The Skylight by Black Gold. You can see the pins well before and after legal shooting hours.


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