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Buster T 01-09-2007 09:05 AM

RE: Recurve only season
 

I would much rather see an archers shooting skills test, than a special season for Recurves. Like 3 out of 5 shots in a football size kill zone at 25 yards, befor you can purchase a deer tag!!!
what would that prove ? of course you'll also require all rifle hunters to pass a similar test too, right ?

GregH I did misunderstand your post. Are you for or against crossbows in archery season ? Just curious, I won't debate it


Ohio is nice in that you can hunt archery throughout gun and muzzleloader seasons
Arkansas is like that as well




wis_bow_huntr 01-09-2007 09:11 AM

RE: Recurve only season
 
It will never happen so you can stop dreaming about a Recurve only season. Its still the same weapon no matter how you look at it, there for it falls under ARCHERY Licenese just as Muzzleloaders fall under your GUN license. But ther has been talk about making a seperate Muzzle loader license.

BobCo19-65 01-09-2007 09:17 AM

RE: Recurve only season
 
That's a really cool pic Greg. The clarity of the picture is incredible for an older (I'm assuming) photo. Must have had a real nice camera.

I had a real similar one however it was taken with an instant poloroid about 30 years ago. Not much left of the photo.



Double Creek 01-09-2007 10:21 AM

RE: Recurve only season
 
I don't think we will see an "general" deer season.... The manufacturers would not allow it..... Think about how many bowhunters and muzzleloader hunters would only gun hunt if allowed? It's more than you think.... That would cost millions, maybe billions to the bow and muzzleloader companies... That "ain't" happening.

GregH 01-09-2007 11:02 AM

RE: Recurve only season
 

ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65

That's a really cool pic Greg. The clarity of the picture is incredible for an older (I'm assuming) photo. Must have had a real nice camera.

I had a real similar one however it was taken with an instant poloroid about 30 years ago. Not much left of the photo.


A photographer from my dad's work came over and took it for the companys newsletter. My dad recieved a copy and eventually gave it to me. I just took it out of the frame and scanned it for use on the web. It was taken on Dec. 10th, 1968.

Thanks

Sliverflicker 01-09-2007 11:24 AM

RE: Recurve only season
 
Buster T, it is not to prove nothing, This is not a game of golf or pool, this is killing something, and if thay can't practice enough to pass some sort of skills test with their equipment of choice to do so ( including guns ) then thay can take up something like Hiking or Photography. Double creek, I'm not so sure, I have already seen over 10 weeks of Archery only season in this State get whittled down to 5. Who do you think has more money to spend on lobbying Gun or Archery Manufactures?

GregH 01-09-2007 02:45 PM

RE: Recurve only season
 

ORIGINAL: Buster T


GregH I did misunderstand your post. Are you for or against crossbows in archery season ? Just curious, I won't debate it

I like the current Wis. x-bow rules. I think you should have a disability to hunt with one.

Buster T 01-09-2007 04:07 PM

RE: Recurve only season
 

Buster T, it is not to prove nothing, This is not a game of golf or pool, this is killing something, and if thay can't practice enough to pass some sort of skills test with their equipment of choice to do so ( including guns ) then thay can take up something like Hiking or Photography.
so ......... lets say the guy that shoots very good groups on the range is a total mess when it comes to shooting live animals ? Or he takes 60 yard running shots ?

you cannot mandate ethical bowhunting - period


I like the current Wis. x-bow rules. I think you should have a disability to hunt with one.

Gawd I'd love to debate that :)

GregH 01-09-2007 05:52 PM

RE: Recurve only season
 
You'll have to debate "that" by yourself.

Sliverflicker 01-09-2007 06:30 PM

RE: Recurve only season
 
Buster T, Someone who can't Hit a pie plate 3 out of 5 shots, and then goes Deer hunting,has no Ethics in the first place. Now you know, we go through life changing the things we can, and tolerateing the things we can't, I only wish there was a simple test for one's Ethics! And your not one of those Fellows that belive if you took a good shot and a bad shot with the same skill level as a Bowhunter, that the bad shot is going tokill more deer are you, Because that was made up by a bad shot!!

BobCo19-65 01-10-2007 07:09 AM

RE: Recurve only season
 
Personally, I think that proficiency test are OK if an individual/organization wants them for use of private land. However, for public huntingor issuing licenses I think this could/would turn into a debate into our individual rights.

Buster T 01-10-2007 09:21 AM

RE: Recurve only season
 

Buster T, Someone who can't Hit a pie plate 3 out of 5 shots, and then goes Deer hunting,has no Ethics in the first place.
Actually that hunter might have GREAT ethics, working very hard to get that 10 yard chip shot and never shooting anything further out.

The accuracy of the hunters doesn't impact how his ethics are, does it ?



Now you know, we go through life changing the things we can, and tolerateing the things we can't, I only wish there was a simple test for one's Ethics!
I'll agree with that !



And your not one of those Fellows that belive if you took a good shot and a bad shot with the same skill level as a Bowhunter, that the bad shot is going tokill more deer are you, Because that was made up by a bad shot!!
I believe there are badshot, and there aregood shots to be taken by bowhunters.

A bad shot can end up with a dead deer, and a good shot can end up with a wounded deer.

Ethics say that bowhunters should take GOOD SHOTS ......... but do you think that maybe, the better shot an archer is, the more he pushes the limits of what is and isn't a good shot ? Maybe taking 35 yards shots because he's been practicingso good, or even further out ? Out slicing an arrow through some brush because his bow shoots so flat and accurate maybe ?




ahunter55 01-10-2007 10:25 AM

RE: Recurve only season
 
We all have our reasons why or why not. I took my 1st 34 Biggame animals with a recurve & wood/forgewood/fiberglass arrows. I now shoot compound. I still keep my shots about the same as I did when I shot recurve. In fact-my longest shot/kill has been with my recurve.
Lets just keep our BOW SEASON.
How about this instead-a TWO week EARLY bow season for DOES only. since those seem the ones we need to take out. Just ONE SPECIAL DOE only tag good for that 2 weeks only. Wisconsin has a Sept. season, why not the rest of the midwest....
Good luck to all-recurve, Compound, crossbow, shotgun, rifle, muzzleloader or spear

Sliverflicker 01-10-2007 02:10 PM

RE: Recurve only season
 
Buster T, I Started out, 3 out of 5 at 25 with a foot ball size kill, I moved it in to 20 the size of a pie plate, now were down to 10 yards with good Ethics? The problem I have with that is, that person who is waiting for that 10 yard chip shot, Ethics suddenly change when a nice buck presents its self at 25 yards. Like I said, I wish there was a simple test for Ethics! Lets take theLegendin his own mind, blabber mouth Tred Barta, who is a self appointed Ambassador on ethics, one minute hes preaching Ethics and saying his effective shooting range is around 20 yards, the next minute he's flicking slivers 60 yards at Deer!And I know there are Good shots that take bad shots, and bad shots that take good shots. But I also know that there are just as many, if not more, Good shots thattake good shots,and bad shots that takebad shots! Thats why I said, a good and a bad shot with the same skill level as a bowhunter! Like I said, Bad shots being better Bowhunters, thangood shooters is a mith, made up by bad shots. Now I don't want to be misleading, I Shoot both! I Love my Recurves, I have 7 of them. I love the bow of the limbs at full draw, the curves, the wood, dipping cresting and fletching my own arrows, and sharpening my broadheads. I don't feel holier than thou for shooting one , Nor do I feelI'm at such a disadvantage, I deserve a SPECIAL season for it!!! That being said I will end with something I wrote on my Recurve Bow Case Years ago, Just because I choose to shoot TRAD, is no excuse for me to shoot BAD!!!

Buster T 01-10-2007 03:21 PM

RE: Recurve only season
 
Sliverflicker I think we agree then that a target shoot to prove you can shoot a target at a set distance under ideal conditions is a worthless test isn't it ?

An IDEAL bowhunters test ? You sit in 25 mph winds on a misty/rainy 34 degree day, and 4 hours after climing into your uncomfrtable hangon you have a two pop-up decoys at an unknown 20-25 yards distance pop up for,say 12 seconds, one behind some brush, frontal shot, a 200 " main framed monster ......... and if he takes the shot he don't get to hunt. :eek:

stringfollow 01-10-2007 05:18 PM

RE: Recurve only season
 
Inside 20 yards a good recurve shooter will out kill a good compound shootereverytime in that a recurve is a moreeasily shot in quick situations, and in tight quarters.

The compound is a better target weapon, than it is a hunting weapon. It is only perceived as better because 90% of folks shoot them.

However, I do agree that all archer must know their limits. A recurve becomes less effective as yardage increases, but so does the compound. In fact, without a range finder most compounders are only slightly more accurate than recurvers. In fact, I have taken shots out to almost 40 yards with a recurve, that I would never take with a compound because of distance issues.

I agree that recurve shooters should be able to hold 6" groups at 20 yards, and I also agree that compound hunters should be able to hunt without range finders.


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