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Pringntiz doe kill article issue
I dont know if im wrong here or taking his article wrong but its seems that article was about killing just to kill. Your thoughts?
(We’ve been hard at it now for about 11 days in the Iowa late season. While we’ve seen some deer, the hunting has been pretty tough. Crazy warm temperatures this late in the year have completely shut down the activity. With a long streak of sitting and not shooting, or even getting any good visuals of shooters, I was ready to kill. Earlier this week, I was presented with an opportunity to take a nice doe, and I took it. I hadn’t planned on shooting a doe, but when she showed, it was on!) [/align] Then the part its all about the camera stinks. Just my little opionion which I am entitled too, if offended sorry but were allowed it. |
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Sometimes you feel it's about the kill. After seven days? Yeah ,I'd probably feel the same way. Hunters don't take enough does anyway so shooting the doe is no problem. Choice of words, Lots of guys use the word "kill". No problem with it!
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Farmers harvest. I kill.
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Todd(AKA The Lone Wolf) is a very knowledgeable hunter and great guy. We have liberal doe tags here in IA and yes, there are days after sitting and not seeing anything, like this freaky warm weather is causing here,that the hunter in me just needsto kill something. Does need harvested and yes, I can relate.
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Pringnitz is one of the only hunters blogs I actually follow.. he seems like a great guy and hunter. I can relate to his frustrations after going the entire season without a buck sighting except on my game cam [:@]
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Hey Guys,
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to comment on this or not, but I'll tell you what I meant when writing this article. I shoot does every year. Usually I wait until I have filled my buck tag, but because the lack of sightings, and just general frustration of this late season, when the doe showed up, I just realized at that moment that it would be a great opportunity to fill a doe tag. Please realize, we haven't even been seeing many does at close range, so it's not like we can kill one whenever we want. This particular area really needs some does killed, so that's what was on my mind when she popped out. I'm a big venison fan. Back in Michigan I fed my family, extended family, and friends with venison every year. Because I live in a small apartment with ZERO freezer space, I usually donated the meat to the HUSH program here in Iowa in the past. Now, a friend has some freezer space for me, so we're filling it to live on for the rest of the year. I cut-out the tenderloins and we already ate them, talk about delicious! Sorry if I irritated anyone in-regard to the "kill" I discussed. I didn't mean to give the impression that all I care about is "killing stuff". I just wrote it, and didn't think much about it to be honest with you. Believe me, there is not a hunter on earth that loves these animals more than myself, and I would never disrespect any kill purposely. So I appologive if I came off as a "killer" and not a hunter. If you guys ever see the video, you will see dozens of bucks I've passed up this season because they weren't big / old enough. If I was a killer, I'd be done by now, with 2 additional bucks on-video! Instead, it's looking like we'll have some doe kills. Regardless, I can guarentee you one thing, not a single ounce of meat will go to waste - ever! Thanks for taking the time to write! ![]() |
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Thanks for the reply Todd. I read your journal entries like the bible even since the tree shredder
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He killed a deer with a legal tag, what more is there to discuess?
Someday the witch hunt must stop, were only hurting ourselves[:@] Todd, nice doe and congrats!!! |
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No appologies are necessary IMHO. I look into the field journals every now and then and I really like Todd's entries. It appears that he is very dedicated and has made a decison to make hunting the center of his life.
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I didn't get the feeling that he was killing just to kill at all. To me someone that kills just to kill is the trophy hunter that only cares about the size of the rack. They don't care about the meat and donate it just for something "positive" to do. And I don't mean the guys that work hard to make that kill. I mean the ones that shop for trophy deer at "STAX 'o RAX". Where trophys are always available and price is determined by size! I guess I shouldn't call those guys trophy hunters I should call them, "Large racked deer killers". I don't want to condemn anyone that HUNTS by legal means so I'll just talk bad about the "killers". I sure don't think Lone Wolf falls into that catagory.
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It seems to me, from reading Todd's entries that he is one very passionate and dedicated whitetail bowhunter. A "killer"..... hardly. He passes up a lot of deer singling out a few he wants to get a shot at. Anyone who has ever done this and made a concerted effort to do so would understand that is the fruthest thing from just wanting to kill.
If I had a doe tag or extra doe tagshere in Idaho I would gladly usethem allfor filling the freezer and gaining more experience. Nothing imo is more valuable than practical experience. Todd your hardwork is appreciated. Keep it coming. |
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This post is going to be long, and for that I apologize, but I have strong feelings on this subject. Obviously, if you prefer, don’t read it.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – It is all about the killing. I think that if we’re honest with ourselves, we may find out some pretty ugly stuff that maybe we don’t like, well, at least not at first. Maybe some things we’re not comfortable talking about. Things we fear may separate us from – the others… All of the hunters that I know, are in my situation. Not exactly, but really close, meaning – We don’t NEED the venison to survive. Sure we like it and have found some really good recipes to use it in, but there is beef, chicken, turkey and pork in the freezer. In fact, I’d be willing to bet that most of us spend more money on our hunting than we gain in saving on meats from our kills. So why are we there, in the woods, money spent on calls, scents, camo, guns, bows, boots and etc. and possibly wasting time? I say wasting time because all of use could probably make quit a bit of money if we spent all that time working – right? And probably make enough money to not only buy the meats that we’re hunting, but have some left over, for other things. Many say – “I just like being a part of nature”, “it’s a tradition”, “I’m not sure, I just know I enjoy it”, “for the food” and all of these are fine answers, but lets not pretend that it isn’t about the killing. To me, hunting is a celebration of my existence. It is a way for me to reflect on mankind and be thankful for his accomplishments. Hunting is to mankind’ what the 4th of July is to the USA. We used to be scavengers. Then we became hunters. That may sound relatively simple, but it was the single biggest accomplishment of man, of course in my opinion. I think it is bigger than fire and the wheel. It was the transition point for humans from dependence to independence. It is about the killing, because we are killers. I know that may sound bad, but it is completely natural and is what got us to where we are now. Sure it may not be politically correct, but who really wants to be politically correct anyway? As creatures, we stand above all others and that is obvious, but instead of denying our emotions and desires why don’t we embrace them? We don’t have front teeth with sharp edges on them for nothing. They are designed to cut meat from bone. Our K-9 teeth weren’t an accident either, they are made for griping so that a animal of prey cannot escape while we kill it. Further, they were not placed there intentionally, but natural selection has played its hand in who we are today. We are the offspring of the “successful killers”. The unsuccessful ones and their would-have-been offspring are gone. I respect the animals that I hunt, and I try to use my hunting to help the animals that I pursue, as odd as that may sound, but I do embrace the killing part, and maybe more so than any other aspect of the hunt. I feel that if you don’t think about this and also accept it for what it is, we’re being dishonest with ourselves. I’d rather understand where I come from and who I am, than pretend to be something else. I’ve even heard people say that they don’t like the killing part. I find this very odd. Not odd that it made them uncomfortable, because I don’t think “comfortable” would be a good adjective to describe the emotions associated with killing. But odd because they are either not being honest with themselves and can’t seem to rationalize their own thoughts, or they are putting themselves through an ugly display of aggression repeatedly and intentionally that they do not enjoy. Why would they do that? I don’t think that they like the venison so much more than the beef that they just have to go out and take part it this task that they find very unsettling. I think it is deeper, much deeper, and it is ugly too, so we avoid it. I have had to finish killing some with a knife. I found this unsettling at the time, just as some seem to feel about taking a life with the bow or firearm, but I’ve found that of all my experiences, these are the ones I reflect on the most. I think it has a lot to do with the amount of adrenalin in your body when you place yourself in a situation that is dangerous with a wild animal and you kill it with your hands. Trust me, it is way more than buck fever. There is a naked ape lurking in the forest and he’s dressed in a vegetation suit. Sometimes he’s in the trees; sometimes he’s on the ground. Sometimes he lets his prey live, and other times they must die. Sometimes they know he’s there and other times they don’t. Once he’s killed them he’ll hold up their beheaded skull and scream out loud, in an almost ritualistic display of success he circles, showing all the living creatures what he has done. He then hangs their skull in the tree of shame. It lets all the creatures know that the killing season has begun and he is there, waiting. He is a killer primate. Good luck to all, I will be out in the woods until Saturday evening, when my killing season comes to an end. Respectfully, KP |
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Its all good wolf, bad interpretation on my part. Killer great post it kind of put it in perspective for me.
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Todd you did good! There's a big buck in it for you next season!
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Dr,
Where at Lake County? |
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Glad to help Peakrut. Now you'll be able to enjoy the finer aspects of killing.
KP |
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Hunters are killers ....... period. In this day of political correctness, those of us that do what has been done since the day God killed the animals in the garden of Eden to clothe Adam and Eve, have NOTHING to be ashamed about. We kill. I am sure that all in here are ethical, but ethical hunters kill.
Great post Killer Primate. |
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Well KP said it all. But i would like to say that im glad i can not only call Todd my friend and also my best friend, i can say that Todd is the most passionate hunter i know when i comes to whitetails. But like KP said if we are being real with ourselves then we all can say that we love being out in nature and we love seeing what the good lord has givin us and even spending time with huntin budies. But when it come down to it it is all about the "kill" that we all want.. Walt
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I read your journal entries like the bible even since the tree shredder |
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I also have followed todds journals for the last couple of years and he is a great guy and dedicated hunter. We have had emails go back and forth over the years and he is just a great guy with a true love for the sport.
Glad he stopped in here and cleared this up for you. |
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This post is going to be long, and for that I apologize, but I have strong feelings on this subject. Obviously, if you prefer, don’t read it. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – It is all about the killing. I think that if we’re honest with ourselves, we may find out some pretty ugly stuff that maybe we don’t like, well, at least not at first. Maybe some things we’re not comfortable talking about. Things we fear may separate us from – the others… All of the hunters that I know, are in my situation. Not exactly, but really close, meaning – We don’t NEED the venison to survive. Sure we like it and have found some really good recipes to use it in, but there is beef, chicken, turkey and pork in the freezer. In fact, I’d be willing to bet that most of us spend more money on our hunting than we gain in saving on meats from our kills. So why are we there, in the woods, money spent on calls, scents, camo, guns, bows, boots and etc. and possibly wasting time? I say wasting time because all of use could probably make quit a bit of money if we spent all that time working – right? And probably make enough money to not only buy the meats that we’re hunting, but have some left over, for other things. Many say – “I just like being a part of nature”, “it’s a tradition”, “I’m not sure, I just know I enjoy it”, “for the food” and all of these are fine answers, but lets not pretend that it isn’t about the killing. To me, hunting is a celebration of my existence. It is a way for me to reflect on mankind and be thankful for his accomplishments. Hunting is to mankind’ what the 4th of July is to the USA. We used to be scavengers. Then we became hunters. That may sound relatively simple, but it was the single biggest accomplishment of man, of course in my opinion. I think it is bigger than fire and the wheel. It was the transition point for humans from dependence to independence. It is about the killing, because we are killers. I know that may sound bad, but it is completely natural and is what got us to where we are now. Sure it may not be politically correct, but who really wants to be politically correct anyway? As creatures, we stand above all others and that is obvious, but instead of denying our emotions and desires why don’t we embrace them? We don’t have front teeth with sharp edges on them for nothing. They are designed to cut meat from bone. Our K-9 teeth weren’t an accident either, they are made for griping so that a animal of prey cannot escape while we kill it. Further, they were not placed there intentionally, but natural selection has played its hand in who we are today. We are the offspring of the “successful killers”. The unsuccessful ones and their would-have-been offspring are gone. I respect the animals that I hunt, and I try to use my hunting to help the animals that I pursue, as odd as that may sound, but I do embrace the killing part, and maybe more so than any other aspect of the hunt. I feel that if you don’t think about this and also accept it for what it is, we’re being dishonest with ourselves. I’d rather understand where I come from and who I am, than pretend to be something else. I’ve even heard people say that they don’t like the killing part. I find this very odd. Not odd that it made them uncomfortable, because I don’t think “comfortable” would be a good adjective to describe the emotions associated with killing. But odd because they are either not being honest with themselves and can’t seem to rationalize their own thoughts, or they are putting themselves through an ugly display of aggression repeatedly and intentionally that they do not enjoy. Why would they do that? I don’t think that they like the venison so much more than the beef that they just have to go out and take part it this task that they find very unsettling. I think it is deeper, much deeper, and it is ugly too, so we avoid it. I have had to finish killing some with a knife. I found this unsettling at the time, just as some seem to feel about taking a life with the bow or firearm, but I’ve found that of all my experiences, these are the ones I reflect on the most. I think it has a lot to do with the amount of adrenalin in your body when you place yourself in a situation that is dangerous with a wild animal and you kill it with your hands. Trust me, it is way more than buck fever. There is a naked ape lurking in the forest and he’s dressed in a vegetation suit. Sometimes he’s in the trees; sometimes he’s on the ground. Sometimes he lets his prey live, and other times they must die. Sometimes they know he’s there and other times they don’t. Once he’s killed them he’ll hold up their beheaded skull and scream out loud, in an almost ritualistic display of success he circles, showing all the living creatures what he has done. He then hangs their skull in the tree of shame. It lets all the creatures know that the killing season has begun and he is there, waiting. He is a killer primate. Good luck to all, I will be out in the woods until Saturday evening, when my killing season comes to an end. Respectfully, KP ;) Nice post KP. |
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As has already been established Todd is one of the good guys as a person and as a hunter certainly the real deal.
I am always reading his posts and his journal entries because it is obvious he knows his stuff. When we are hunting we are out in the woods and mountains in pursuit of our quarry with intention of killing it,if we have a tag for the animal and we make every effort to kill it as humanely as possible I don't see the issue. |
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