So kind of like a long draw out tending grunt, with a little extra kick to it in certain parts?

Rob, back in the early 80's I watched a booner for 20 minutes from my stand, after rubing several trees, He went back overand stood about 15 to 20 yards inside the edge of the wood line, only raiseing and lowering his head to get a look out into the bean field. When a smaller Buck chased a Doe out of the Corn field into the Bean field, the Booner let out a Loud Aggressive Grunt, (Roar/Growl) and took of at a gate, doing what some call a tending grunt every other step, 5 times!and chased the younger Buck and Doe back into the Corn field. Now Grunt calls came into the picture sometime later, around 84 or 85. Up until that time some of us were doing deer Vocalizations by mouth, I for one was glad because it made my sinus and throat sore, Plus I could not imitate the Roar (not loud or ruff enough) by mouth. After playing with the new grunt calls I could do the loud aggressive grunt by cupping bouth hands over the end of the call, at the beginning of the grunt (lower), and uncupping them at the end of thegrunt (higher with an "erra" on the end). Now Me, and several of my friends and Family have been useing this grunting sequence for at least 20 years. It's not new, just new to some. Hope this helps.

IMHO stay with the good ol grunt call and snort wheeze or in fact i like to just go silent a lot of times

I don't get the "gimmick" or "waste of money" label for this one (and believe me I throw those terms around a lot).

The call was $15 and it is a very nice grunt tube that is well made. If used as nothing more then a grunt tube it is still well worth the $15. If you use it to make the drawn out "growl" and don't like it or get a poor response then you still have a perfectly good grunter. That is not a scam IMO.

I knew you were gonna say that............which is why I clarified my statement immediately after typing it

So this whole thread is about objecting to the name growl/roar??

Why do you care what they call it?

It's not very easy describing a sound................it has more pizzaz then a tending grunt though.

Agreed. Nice sounding grunt tubes are worth that.

Just doing what your so good at and setting the record straight.

Exactly, your grunted, not roared/growled otherwise it would have spooked the immature buck which makes my point that it will scare more deer than it calls in and any call can imitate the toned down roar/growl. It's pure marketing as far as the box is concerned but good marketing at that, not unlike Scentloc.

Ok I just down loaded video and watch it. Sounds like a pissed off grunt to me, kind of like when Dad said "hey jr", if I did not respond I got the one I would listen too.

Just like "the can" fate once everyone starts blowing it in the woods it will be useless IMO.

Atlas I think what Rob is asking is why all of a sudden is everyone hearing the "growl" now. Is because we have a name for it now, or is it all mental.

They're in the business of selling us this stuff, if they called it the new improved 2006 model grunt tube nobody would buy it. Marketing comes up with a catchy name and it sells. Does it work? $15, buy one and find out ,if it doesn't work put it in the box with all the other stuff you've bought that didn't work,calls,fishing lures (wow! fishing lures now there's a racket!)