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Speedmaster 01-03-2007 06:12 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
I would not take the shot purposely either!! I can say though I have killed a doe several years ago with a similar shot placement! Not on purpose though! I spotted 3 doe on the last day of the late season and stalked to 60 yards of them. I kneeled down and waited as one of them walked to 40 yards of me broadside. Her right side was facing me. When I released my arrow she completely turned and my arrow struck her in the left hind quarter! She went about 20 yards and was done!

MDBUCKHUNTER 01-03-2007 06:45 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
That guy shouldn't be hunting.

PA Bow/Flinter 01-03-2007 06:58 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
To everybody who considers this hunter the scum of the earth, what do you think of the person who did this?




early in 01-03-2007 07:00 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Wouldn't even entertain the thought of shooting a deer that way![:@]

uncballers45 01-03-2007 07:01 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
what an idiot

Finch 01-03-2007 07:03 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Mistakes are one thing but I personally wouldn't take a shot like that.

It has never been said if this guy purposely shot this deer in the hind quarter or if it was a mistake.

To each his own.

davidmil 01-03-2007 07:38 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Obviously a very bad angle and NOPE, wouldn't take the shot. Most times if you just wait the deer will turn.

_Dan 01-03-2007 08:01 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Its impossible to comment without knowing the whole story.

Sometimes stuff goes wrong.I onceshot at an 8pt and hit a small branch I didn't see. The arrow deflected and hit him in the hind quarter. Luckily, I hit the artery and he only went 100 yrds. Now if you saw the pic of the deer, you would probably all jump on me without knowing EXACTLY what happened.


Germ 01-03-2007 08:04 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 

ORIGINAL: PA Bow/Flinter

To everybody who considers this hunter the scum of the earth, what do you think of the person who did this?




Butter and Garlic for the tender loins?

ArrowMike 01-03-2007 08:14 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
SoGMMAT whats the story? Did you intend to shootthe deerlike this or not? Every one wants to know.

Germ 01-03-2007 08:20 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 

ORIGINAL: ArrowMike

SoGMMAT whats the story? Did you intend to shootthe deerlike this or not? Every one wants to know.
It is not GMMAT

Matt in IL 01-03-2007 11:37 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
That pic reminds me of a spiker I saw up in Wisconsin this season while scouting. He was walking around with a big ol' aluminum arrow stuck in his butt. Didn't go in far, maybe an inch or two. He seemed fine, doubt he made it through gun season though, you could spot him a mile away.

Sometimes those kinda shots happen, even to the best of us. But, when you purposely take a shot like that, that is just ignorant.....

jonnyslim 01-04-2007 12:58 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Well it will kill a deer but it certainly is not the highest precentage shot. An ethicel hunter would wait for more a ethicel shot where more of the deers body cavity is showing. This is certainly not the kind of shot any bowhunter should condone but accidents do happen.

salty 01-04-2007 04:50 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Do you guys think Tred Barta shot that deer?

txjourneyman 01-04-2007 05:58 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Only if he launched 5 or more arrows at it could he be the one that shot it.

GMMAT 01-04-2007 06:16 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Again guys...I'm not the one who took this shot.

This is a copy of a photo posted on the Mathews board. All the guys over there are slapping this guy on the back....telling him what a good shot it was. I took the stance, over there, that it was unethical. I'm the ONLY one. The shot WAS intended JUST as it happened. I even started a new thread over there asking the moderators point-blank if they condoned this type of shot. I think, as evidenced by when I first got started, a lot of guys start out with what gets advertised the most.....a Mathews. I seem to see a lot more beginners posting over on that board, than here. I KNOW there's a lot more knowledge here, than there. I'm afraid the guy getting his new bow and starting into hunting will see that and the responses......and think all he has to do is hit the deer. That's what I'm afraid of.

I wanted to know if "I" was off-base thinking this shot selection (or LACK of a shot) was unethical. I think it is.

Thanks for your responses. The thread is called "first bow deer" on the Mathews page if you're interested.

Jeff

whitetailsoldier 01-04-2007 06:40 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 

Think though I am shooting 30" arrows where would the tip be at thirty inches? well all I can say is it looks horrible but If the deer was quartering at a hard 90 to the right...you might think you had a better shat than you did. Obviously shot was a little off! To risky for me
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salty 01-04-2007 07:08 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Sounds like some of us need to cruise on over to this mathews board and educate

salty 01-04-2007 07:20 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 

ORIGINAL: salty

Sounds like some of us need to cruise on over to this mathews board and educate
I am not going to post on that board since 90% of the members seem to have been brainwashed into thinking mathews is the best bow out there. That being said, I understand now why he decided to take that shot

Germ 01-04-2007 07:24 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 

ORIGINAL: salty

Sounds like some of us need to cruise on over to this mathews board and educate
Or we could go over there and learn not to be so critical of other hunters;)

I'm Just sayin

GMMAT 01-04-2007 07:32 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
If I took that shot.....and posted it, here.....I'd be crucified.

If the guy that won the 3D worlds took it......he would, too.

I fell that both he and I would deserve it.

I'm entitled.

Jeff

salty 01-04-2007 07:36 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

If I took that shot.....and posted it, here.....I'd be crucified.

If the guy that won the 3D worlds took it......he would, too.

I fell that both he and I would deserve it.

I'm entitled.

Jeff
but the point is you know right from wrong and wouldn't attempt a shot like that which makes you a better sportsman. Everyone makes mistakes or bad decisions but for people on that board to applaud his shot makes other first time bowhunters think it is ok to shoot deer in the rear ends.

Germ 01-04-2007 07:47 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

If I took that shot.....and posted it, here.....I'd be crucified.

If the guy that won the 3D worlds took it......he would, too.

I fell that both he and I would deserve it.

I'm entitled.

Jeff
I would not tell the guy great shot, but remember we were not in the tree with him. Calling the guy an idiot and he is stupid may drive off some first year hunters off,I know you did not do, but sometime people take it that way.

What are you doing on the mathews site? I thought you were a bowtech man, ooh that's right their site "blows up" all the time;)

PreacherTony 01-04-2007 07:47 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
I would NEVER take that shot on purpose! [:@]Unfortunately, there will be a few lost deer before that hunter realizes he just got plain lucky.[&o]

GMMAT 01-04-2007 08:02 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 

Don't read anything into my posts. I mean EXACTLY what I write.

Jeff
Uhhhh Germ.....


I would not tell the guy great shot, but remember we were not in the tree with him. Calling the guy an idiot and he is stupid may drive off some first year hunters off,I know you did not do, but sometime people take it that way.
The problem is.....he said he meant to take THIS shot.

I'm done.

Jeff



Germ 01-04-2007 08:09 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
I was not talking about you:)

The other post where folks called him an idiot.

I'm done too;), well maybe





rednecksteve 01-04-2007 08:17 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
nope if ya wated it would probably turn
some time making a nois will work

waiting_for_a_gift 01-04-2007 09:49 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
After reading the posts, yes I would take that shot. No doubt it was a quartering away shot, highly desirable. Perhaps point of impact was only off a few inches, still got job done. Yes, some meat spoilage, I can live with that on a nice big doe, especially if it's a clean kill and speedy recovery.

Bullet Hole Bailey 01-04-2007 10:24 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
No way, you shure are risky there GMMAT.

Germ 01-04-2007 10:26 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 

ORIGINAL: Bullet Hole Bailey

No way, you shure are risky there GMMAT.
OK for the last time IT IS NOT GMMAT who shot the deer. read, read

Buster T 01-04-2007 10:37 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
If I told you I've taken 17 hard quartering away shots, and have recovered 17 deer with that shot, what would you say then ? Still a bad shot ?

Canuck33 01-04-2007 10:39 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Fron the angle the arrow is in it looks like the deer was quartering away hard, I took a great buck this year that came in on the chase and was quartering hard in my shooting lane, as I shot he turned even harder, the arrow struck right in front of the hind quarter and passed through the entire deer hitting liver lungs and heart and exiting the front shoulder, he didn't go 100 yards, so I guess if the penetration angle is right the shot can be very effective, it really depends on the situation and the hunter's abilities to hit the mark

Ray Hunter 42 01-04-2007 11:03 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
I agree with Grem. You shouldnt be calling anyone an idiot or stupid. Espeacialy a FIRST YEAR HUNTER
I know that it is a bad hit but maybe that isnt where he was aiming and maybe he was very excited (cant imagin anyone being excited when there about ready to shoot a deer) but maybe this guy is differnt and he was excited and the shot went wrong.
So if you guys still want NEW hunters getting on this site and young hunters to sign up i would lay off the name calling.

I know that i was unsure to post my buck on here because i know how some of you are with killing smaller bucks.
But as i put in my post i said i dont care what any of you say about my deer. It was my first bow buck and im very proud of it.

spartanhunter19 01-04-2007 11:46 AM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
My buddy had a doe jump his string when he shot and he ended up hitting her in about that spot but the arrow went in far enough that it got a lung and she only went about 50 yards.

No, I wouldn't take that shot.

JNTURK 01-04-2007 01:03 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
no i would not....way to chancey even for me...and if you do connect there went the upper half of the hind 1/4...not worth injuring a deer....

bloodcrick 01-04-2007 02:30 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
I agree with you GMMAT i would not take that shot if it were presented. I have my share of not hitting where i aimed for whatever reason but i would not try and put it in at that hard of an angle, way to risky. broad side and slightly quartering away you at least have a little room for error.
Dan

HammytheHunter 01-04-2007 03:42 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 

ORIGINAL: _Dan

Its impossible to comment without knowing the whole story.
My thoughts exactly. Even though I personally would never take a shot like that, I'd need to know whether it was an accident or on purpose before passing judgement. Some people might feel comfortable with that shot, but I just couldn't see the benefits in passing up the rather large vital area that most of us aim for.

PABuck_HNTR 01-04-2007 05:13 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Never!

gzg38b 01-04-2007 05:22 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
I would only take that shot if I had a 3 inch mechanical broadhead and a 300 grain carbon arrow at 310 fps. [8D]

Seriously though - why not just wait for a broadside or slightly quartering shot? I don't by it when people say "That's the only shot I had". BS. That's the only shot you had because you weren't willing to wait 20 more seconds for the deer to turn broadside. They usually will turn if you wait long enough. If they don't, don't shoot. Why is it so complicated?

The sad part is this guy thinks that's a good shot to take at a deer now. I don't see anything wrong with educating him as long as it's done respectfully in a positive tone.



Greg / MO 01-04-2007 05:31 PM

RE: Would you take this shot???
 
Well said, gzg...


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