Hunters Safety System vest question
 

One question......can the vest/harness be worn UNDERNEATH a jacket?

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Unfortunately, not unless you cut a hole in your jacket. You could put the strap through the collar of your shirt/jacket, but it will limit your movement quite a bit since the strap is so low on your upper back when it's on.

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I just purchased one of the HSS harness/vests yesterday.

It can be worn underneath a jacket, but the tether will prevent you from using the jacket hood (obviously).

I intend to wear mine over my jacket. I bought the reversible one that will allow me to take advantage of the vest orange during rifle season. I also plan to use the vest pockets to hold my stuff.

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There is no need to cut holes in Jackets or anything like that. Just feed the strap out the top of the jacket. I lay it up over my shoulder, put on the jacket and then flop the strap back over the collar. No sweat. My ONLY complaint with the system is this. I had one of the old original ones that was fabric. I thought I just had to have one of the mesh ones with all the neat little pockets etc for warmer weather. Well, the mesh is the problem. If you wear it on the outside the mesh can get caught on the bark of a lot of trees. Save the money and buy the solid fabric ones. I still love mine, but could have saved myself $20.

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Thanks for the replies guys.:) I was afraid I'd hear that answer. I was hoping the tether strap would lead overhead so a jacket could be put on over the vest at the stand site.

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Hmmmm. Thanks David. So the strap that leads from the vest is heading out of the top of the jacket correct? I guess what I am saying is I do not want a vest/harness where the strap would have to ride out of the bottom of the jacket.

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I have the HSS and I like it alot, but the seat belt buckels are a bit bulky. Anyway, I took mySkyline-Horizon winter coat to a taylor and had a slit cut and sewn for the teather strap to pass through, so I can keep my coat sealed tight. It really works great but I think quality garments should come with this.
The teather strap comes right off the top of the harness unlike what someone said earlier.

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If you want a REAL safety harnass vest; get a Summit Seat-O-Pants vest. Comes with a linesmans belt built into it as well as the middle of the back safety belt. It stores your safety ropes with the Summit prussic knot in the back of your vest in a pocket and is made of high quality camo cloth instead of mesh. A linesmans belt is essential to me with my type of Lone Wolf climbing sticks, new setup each day. Yes, it can be worn under your clothes or coat. When I wanted a vest I compared them all and nothing could hold a candle to the Summit Vest.

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Coug, I always wear mine under my jacket. The strap is at the top so the only problem is as someone stated, you can't really use the hood of your jacket. I like to have the option of taking my jacket off midday if it gets warm, without fumbling with the harness.

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I love mine and have worn it both ways only complaint buckles make it heavy

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I don't know what you guys are talking about not being able to wear a jacket over the vest? I wear mine all of the time underneath my jacket with the teather sticking out of the top of my jacket by my collar. The part I didn't like was the strap that attaches to the tree. So I just used the rope with the prussic knot and the caribiner that came with my summit treestand, it makes for an easier hookup to the tree for my liking.

HCH, the newer Hunter safety system harnesses do come with a linemans hookups on the vest. I do agree the sop harness is a good harness too but I just lthink the HSS is easier and quicker to put on. I love mine.

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I have one of the mesh ones and i wear it under my coat with no problems at all.....only thing is you cant use your hood.

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HCH, I see Summit makes about 3 different models. Is this the one you are talking about?

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No, this is it. There is a rear pocket that runs across your whole rear that has two snap buttons and this holds your safety ropes. I carry two ropes; one for the linesmans harnass and another for the middle of the back tether. This way am never unhooked while switching from the linesman to the actual safety harnass beforer stepping unto the treestand.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0039093417536a&type=product&cm Cat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=+Summit+seat+o+pants+sa fety+harnass&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=m ode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=+Summit+seat+o+pant s+safety+harnass&noImage=0

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That's the one I'm looking at buying HCH.
Now,if they'd only make it in Enigma Camo:D
Oh well, I'd wear it under my jacket anyway.

No complaints on it?
I have 100.00 in Cabela's bucks to spend

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No complaints. High quality, comfortable, and easy to use.

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Think it is better than this one?

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=search-cat20053&id=0039095417543a&navCount=1& podId=0039095&parentId=cat20053&masterpath id=&navAction=push&catalogCode=QT&rid= &parentType=index&indexId=cat20053&has JS=true

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Here it is on their website. says linesmans climbing strap with buckle. I REALLY like the rope and prussic knot for easy length adjustablity. I don't know anything about that one. It says new on their website here.
http://www.gorillatreestands.com/safety_vest_harnesses_2.shtml

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I had a HSS vest for two weeks. I did not like the vest at all. IMO, its WAY too bulky and heavy. I knew I had it on. The clunky seat belt buckles, along with the sheer weight reminded me of that. I switched back to a new SOP, like HCH has mentioned and can't be happier. The buckles are quick, secure and you don't know they are there and its easy to put on. Plus, the prussic knot system they incorporate is the best I've seen.

The other thing that really had me concerned was the leg straps on the HSS. Put it on and go and hang from it. If you really had a slip and fell out of your stand, you might be talking in a little higher pitch. The straps end up right on your jewls. I realize its still better than the 20 ft trip to the ground, but why make it painful? There was a good review of this vest on another site and it stated the exact same thing.

IMO, the SOP is the best on the market.

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Simplicity was the main issue for me, I have the fabric vest and like it alot. It is heavy but I have gotten use to it. It is very easy and QUICK. Only thing I don't like is once my cam hit the buckle and made a clink.[:@]
But I do like the system.

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I upgraded this year to a harness from the old belt style and wound up going with the Fast Back. I didn't like the idea of the vest because of all the material of a vest system. The Fast Back doesn't have the bulkiness of the vest but is very easy to get into without tangles and a big clump of seat belt material to sort out. I love it....comfortablel, easy to get into, and quiet. I use it with a Prusik knot system I attach at the base of the tree to a rope that is attached above stand level - only makes sense to be secured from the ground up and then back again. Whatever your decision for a harness, I would suggest the complete climging system of a Prusik knot or climbing ascender attached to a rope that from the base of the tree to your stand.

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I bought the HSS vest about 3 years ago and hated it so much I probably haven't used it more than half a dozen times. This year I got the SOP and like it much better.

In my opinion HSS could have found some lighter, less bulky, and substantially strong buckles for the crotch area. Then I think I could have tolerated it.

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I love the hunter safety system, i just bought it about a month ago and havn't had any problems. My jacket doesn't have a hood but so i really like it. I'm only 14 and being in the stand is really comfortable unless you feel safe.

Trophy Taker

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Sorry about the spelling

its really uncomfortable in the stand unless you feel safe and i ment i dont have a hood so i dont have any problems with that.

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I have looked at and tried on all of the harnesses listed at the shop, we have them all. I ended up buying the Loggy Bayou transformer. It is much lighter, less bulky, easier to put under stuff, cheaper, and comes w/ the linemans belt setup as well as the built in bino strap system. It also has available accessories that are modular such as a fanny pack, quiver, misc pouches, etc. I like mine so much I wear it even when I am not in a tree because of the bino harness and it keeps my bulky clothes in close to me. Plus it's cheaper than most of the others.

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Rick, I have seen that Loggy Transformer vest/harness. It does look like it might be a winner. Thanks for all the info and opinions guys, its been a big help. I think I am narrowing it down to the Summit system, Loggy Transformer, or the regular Loggy harness. I tried it on and it was pretty decent and looks easy to keep untangled.

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If you wear it under your jacket, though, you won't be able to reach the pockets on it, especially the ones on the side. You can put the tether strap out the top, but if you move forward at all, the jacket will be pulled back, something I'm sure no one wants in 0 degree weather! I'm 6' 4", so the system is a little further down my back than most peoples', and the tether strap connects a little below my shoulder blades, so any garment over it is not very comfortable. I always wear mine on the outside: easy access to all pockets, no need for carryin a gear bag, and no "popped collars."

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What pa hardwoods said. he said it word for word what i was going to say.
Dan:)

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Dang, HCH….it seems we disagree on all equipment issues. I have the Summit SOP and I don’t care for it one bit. Different strokes.

I’ll be switching to the HSS pro mesh, next season. I like to wear my harness under my camo jacket. A lot of you pointed out that that can be a problem if your jacket has a hood. It can also rub your neck raw and be cumbersome on stand.

In field testing the new Enigma line of camo….I suggested to Chuck (the owner) that he incorporate a grommet in the back of the jacket to allow for a tether strap to pass through. Future models will incorporate this option (upon request). I think GERM ordered his with just this option, already. This will make a LOT of hunters happy and keep us more comfortable on stand…..while NOT sacrificing the safety of a full body harness.

Contact Chuck @ Enigma if you’re interested in something like this.

Jeff

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If anyone hears of the Pro Mesh being on sale (end of season)....let me know. I'd like to go ahead and pick one up.

jeff

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I love my HSS vest, I also use the mesh one. The buckles make it so fast and easy to put on. I usually wear it as my 2nd layer, over a light undershirt, and then feed the strap out the top of all my shirts/jackets. My favorite hooded fleece now has a hole so I can use the hood, but that is nothing major.

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I agree with hardcorehunter, the seat of the pants is the way to go. The linesman feature is a must for hanging lock on stands!!! The most important thing, no matter what brand you decide on, is the fact that you plan on wearing a safety belt. It could save you life!!!

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Hardcorehunter, Looking at the seat of the pants harness, it seems to me that it would catch you in the crotch just like the HSS system. Am I correct? I tried to hang just to see what it would feel like, holy crap did it hurt!