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BRUSHHOG3 10-18-2006 09:20 AM

Need a little accuracy help.
 
Need a little help. First let me say I haven't posted much but really get lots of good info from this forum and maybe some of ya'll could even help me out. I shoot a Diamond Rapture @70lbs w/ 31" draw. 1st year really bowhunt'n. I practice 2x a day, I shoot about 15 times at lunch and after work. I have a square target and a deer target. My problem is I can't seem to get real tight groups of shots, I can put5 arrows in the kill zone of the deer target, but just can not seem to get any real consistency going. Anybody got any tricks or suggestion.

Thanks

nohillbilly 10-18-2006 09:29 AM

RE: Need a little accuracy help.
 
I can't shoot a good group in my block either, but on my 3D I shave the flethings off at 30 yards. Who knows? I just quit shooting the block and stuck to the deer. I have started to move my shots around the kill zone so I don't keep ruining broadheads and fletchings.

snake123 10-18-2006 09:32 AM

RE: Need a little accuracy help.
 
Practice Practice Practice. I usually shoot anywhere from 100 -150 arros at a time when I practice. Now that season is here, I still shoot but not as often or as much. I always aim at my nock to get tight groups.

Mike from Texas 10-18-2006 09:33 AM

RE: Need a little accuracy help.
 
Stop concentrating on shooting groups so much. I would take it the shop where you bought it and make sure it's tuned. Then shoot one shot groups. When you can place one arrow in the kill zone everytime, then your ready. I've never had a live deer stand still long enough to let me see what kind of group I could stick in him.

SteveO KanevO 10-18-2006 09:48 AM

RE: Need a little accuracy help.
 
Could be your arrows or even your bow. I name all my arrows that way if one is flying all hunkerjawed then I know which one it is. Or you could just need to focus on one small spot on the target, and nothing else. I also shoot each individual arrow seperatly and several times. Just to make sure. And hey if you are hitting the kill zone on a deer every time. What more could you ask for.

mauser06 10-18-2006 10:02 AM

RE: Need a little accuracy help.
 
it takes time and practice. biggest factor in a new acrher is GOOD FORM and CONSITANCY. every little thing you do must be repeated shot after shot or youll never get consistancy. sure you can put them all in a 8inch circle...but thats a standing still target at a known range under perfect conditions. factor in the excitment, maybe a little wind, some tree branches, an alert deer and everything else in a normal hunting situation and youll miss or wound more then your stick in the 8 inch group you shoot at a target. perfect practice makes perfect. concentrate, good form, consitant repeatable form, and follow through. youll be busting knocks in no time. when i first started earlier this year i could killed a deer...but now im killing my arrows out at 35yds. treestand i was doin the same..because i practiced from it. id never call putting them in the killzone acceptable. if my groups arent consitant im not going to shoot that far at a live animal. this is also my first year...but i practiced my butt off and learned alot. im not an expert by any means...but thats how i got to where i am. as soon as i started focusing and becoming consitant and having good forn and a good grip and follow through my groups shrank and arrows started splitting.

Monie 10-18-2006 10:06 AM

RE: Need a little accuracy help.
 
It could be a number of things. If you are shooting you bow at 70 lbs you might need to reduce the draw weight. I'm able toshoot 70 lbs, but I choose to leave it at 62 lbs. I can draw it easier (straight back, start to finish)and smoother ANDI can hold it longer.

Make sure you have the right arrows. If your arrows are over/under spined your groups will be out of whack.

Make sure the bow has been paper tuned and is shooting bullet holes.

Have more than one or two anchor points. If you don't already, use your nose as one of your anchor points. You'll have to move your peep and maybe your pins, but it is worth it! My anchor ponts are: knuckle right behind my earlobe, fletch in the crease between my chin and lower lip, string along the side of my mouth and also across my nose.Four solid anchor points.

From there, work on your form. Shoot with a wrist sling. Let the bowgrip rest in the palm, right across the meat of the thumb. DO NOT grip your bow! Let your thumb and fingers hang loose and relax. The wrist sling is there to catch the bow so you don't have to. If you grip the bow, you'll torque on the shot and throw arrows. Shoot with a slight bend in your elbow. This reduces left/right movement and also reduces stress to the shoulder, plus, you won't whack your arm. Aim small, miss small. In other words, aim at the smallest dot on your target insteard of the general area. Practice drawing on the target, hold the pin over the dot, then let down. This will help you get over the need to let an arrow fly even when the shot is less than perfect. Also, practice holding on the taget a little longer than you normally do. Breath easy and let the pin settle.

Hope this helps. :)

Bob H in NH 10-18-2006 10:11 AM

RE: Need a little accuracy help.
 
There could be LOTS of reasons ranging from bow tune or bow fit, to form, to just need practice.

My shooting seems to respond the best to limited practice, to much and it can be bad. I shoot 3-5 times a week, start at 20 yds on my block, shoot 3 arrows at a time, at 20,30,40,50. Then from 50 back into 20except this time at the 3D target. That's it.

I have to ask, how tall are you?? You say you have a 31 inch draw, which is possible, but if you are under about 6'3" or so, its suspect to being to long.

Being overbowed is also a big accuracy killer, back the 70 lbs down a couple of turns to see if it helps.

Also, number your arrows, its possible that they arrows are out of tune. If the #3 arrow (for example) is always the flyer, turn the nock to see if this helps, sometimes an arrow just refuses to play nice with the rest of them.



rrb259 10-18-2006 10:14 AM

RE: Need a little accuracy help.
 
I agree w/ all these replys so far. Remember what it says at the bottom of my reply.make sure you have a consitant anchoring point. Mine is when I am at full draw my bow hand is open thumb and 1st fingure up like in hte shape of a "v" like I am pushing the bow away from me directly at the point of aim. (pick a small target). My release hand at full draw make a fist then draw your elbow straaight back and put the end of your thumb at the point on the back of you jaw. then I tell myself elbow out (meaning bow hand for me thats the left I'm right handed). anchor, aim small.
I also don't like shooting at my knocks because I go through too many arrows that way. spray paint small dots on your target then put a stick or something small to aim at in the middle of them. if you can hit each individual target in hte middle you are grouping and not ruining arrows.
Thats what I do! good luck w/ what ever your choices may be.

Arthur P 10-18-2006 10:38 AM

RE: Need a little accuracy help.
 
I'll add another to BobH's list... Crappy and/or worn out arrows. Even a world champion can't shoot good groups with junk arrows. If you're shooting bargain basement arrows, or if the arrows you're shooting are more than a year old, go get some new ones. And spend some money on them!



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