Piebalddoe

I signed the petition. I live in PA and I hope sunday hunting is allowed here someday soon. With school I am real busy and can usually only hunt one day, that is Saturday. I can't afford to miss a lot of school for hunting time. I wish I had the whole weekend to hunt.

statjunk

What is the penalty for Sunday hunting?

I can't imagine the likelyhood of getting caught being very high. Just hunt.

Tom

goherd1111

Hey Hillbilly I am origianlly for WV. I moved to Illinois about three years ago. In Illinois we can hunt on sundays and its awesome to have that extra day. I know what you mean about WV. I don't understand what they are doing. It seems like everything they could do to help that state is voted down. Hopefully it will change sometime because I often go back to WV to hunt during gun season.

hillbillyhunter1

Me too BDC. I doubt ifthe issuewill ever be brought up to voteagain unfortunately. I know one of the county commisioners in Jefferson Co (still open to Sunday Hunting) He's a good friend and hunting "addict"--he told me he promised that a referendum to end Sunday hunting in Jefferson county would NEVER make it to the polls

Robvt3,

I signed your petition and best of luck (sorry for the slight misdirection a few of us mountaineers have caused--hope you don't mind)


Goherd1111

I thought you must have been affiliated with Marshall when I saw your "handle"--good luck in IL.

Talondale

Personally I'm against Sunday hunting. Mostly for me it's personal reasons, and although I don't expect you to abide by my feelings I still think it is classy that a State acknowledges that Sunday is a day of rest (except most blue laws have been repealed). Now, before you start flaming me about your right to do what you want on your property on your one day off or whatever.... I fully understand your position and on a basic level I agree with you, but at the same time I think a ban, for the right reasons (which in today's anti-faith,PC-conscienceenvironment, probably won't happen) is the "higher" option. As I said, it seems classier to me, more like the old days when stores were closed on Thanksgiving and Christmas (I don't hunt on Christmas day either). But pragmatism and convienence (not to mention profit) rules and these self imposed limitations are falling one by one. (I like that Chik-fil-a is closed on Sundays too). I don't expect you to agree with me but that's my stance. I also fully expect this law to be repealed one day and I still won't hunt and hopefully I won't have to watch for trespassers on my property on Sunday too.

hillbillyhunter1

freedom and ability to choose trump "classy" everytime[8D].

You seem to have the mentality of some of the hunters I was talking about, which is your perogative. I respect your freedom to choose when you will and will not hunt and hope you have good luck.

No one would describe any government entities in this state with the word "class", although they may use a word that rhymes with class[8D][:@]

BDC

I won't flame you talondale but I will respectfully disagree.

02bhntn

In the early days of America, so-called blue laws restricted many activities on Sunday. In recent years, however, state governments have recognized that the people’s right to choose for themselves what they do, or don’t do, on Sunday is more consistent with America’s founding principals. Present day bans on Sunday hunting are the last holdouts of these blue laws, and hunters are questioning why they are being treated differently from their fellow citizens.

The majority of hunters will agree that the biggest obstacle to hunting, and the biggest obstacle to recruiting new hunters, is lack of access and opportunity to hunt. By restricting Sunday hunting, states are not only limiting opportunities for today’s hunters but are making it harder to recruit new hunters to carry on our proud heritage. Anti-hunting groups understand this, that’s why they oppose lifting Sunday hunting bans--they don’t want a new generation of hunters to enter the field. This opposition to Sunday hunting is in fact opposition to the future of hunting itself.

Restrictions on Sunday hunting treat hunters as second-class citizens. Other outdoor activities are allowed on Sunday, including fishing, hiking and golf. By restricting hunting and not other activities, state governments are sending a not so subtle message to hunters and non-hunters alike that there is something wrong with hunting, that it isn’t as legitimate an activity. This message ignores the fact that hunters contribute billions of dollars to the benefit of wildlife, both through license fees and excise taxes paid on firearms and ammunition.

There are compelling reasons why Sunday hunting should be allowed:


Sunday hunting has no detrimental effect on wildlife populations. The 43 states that allow some form of Sunday hunting have healthy wildlife populations in those areas that can sustain them. In fact the states with the most abundant game populations allow Sunday hunting. Those states that have recently removed prohibitions on Sunday hunting have not seen a negative impact on game populations. Allowing Sunday hunting will give state wildlife agencies more flexibility in managing populations. The extra day a week for hunting will give the agencies the ability to increase hunting in areas of overpopulation by encouraging hunters to go afield.


The most common reason that hunters stop hunting is lack of hunting opportunity. Hunting opportunities are largely decided by two factors: accessible land and available time. Since most hunters work Monday through Friday, a ban on Sunday hunting cuts their available hunting time in half.


Sunday hunting is an excellent way to recruit new hunters. Many young people have school or athletic obligations on Saturday. Allowing Sunday hunting means that parents can spend time hunting with their son or daughter, passing on a heritage that is so important to America. With the myriad of activities that compete for the attention of young people today, a restriction on Sunday hunting means many of them never take up the sport.


Sunday hunting will bring an economic benefit to many rural areas. Every day that hunters are in the field, they spend money on gas, food, lodging and the dozens of other incidentals that go along with a day’s hunt. The ripple effect of this spending can have a major impact on a rural town or county.


Out-of-state license revenue can grow as a result of Sunday hunting. Few hunters will take extended hunting trips to a state that won’t let them hunt one day of the week. These out-of-state hunters pay higher license fees that benefit the game department and also spend even more money on incidentals than in-state hunters.

Current Sunday hunting bans:

Currently seven states entirely prohibit hunting on Sunday for wild game; they are Delaware, Maine, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Virginia, New Jersey and Connecticut. All of these states have considered legislation to lift the bans in recent years. Repealing the Sunday hunting bans has been actively supported by the wildlife agencies in Maine and New Jersey.

Four states allow limited Sunday hunting: Maryland allows hunting on two Sundays during deer season; South Carolina allows Sunday hunting on private land only; North Carolina allows Sunday hunting on some federal installations; in 2001 West Virginia enacted legislation that allows Sunday hunting on private land, but each county can hold a referendum to ban Sunday hunting; currently 14 counties allow it.

Recently several states have recognized the folly of Sunday hunting bans:

New York: In 1996 New York opened Sunday hunting on three Sundays during deer season. Within five years the law was changed to allow all Sunday hunting, except on specifically designated lands.

Ohio: In 1998 Ohio passed a bill allowing a test of Sunday hunting on public lands for a period of three years. In 2002 the legislature made Sunday hunting permanent without opposition from groups that had concerns when the test began. The state wildlife agency supported the change.

Michigan: Sunday hunting was banned on private land in certain counties, but in 2003, all Sunday hunting closures were repealed. The bill was supported by the state wildlife agency.

None of these states have experienced the horror stories forecast by opponents of hunting. The states continue to have healthy wildlife populations. Hunters continue to behave in a responsible and safe manner. Church attendance remains unchanged. Landowner-hunter conflicts have not increased. In sum, Sunday hunting has had nothing but a beneficial impact on these states and the future of hunting in them.


There have been various arguments offered in support of maintaining the Ban on No Sunday Hunting in Virginia. I wish to supply counter arguments to repeal the Ban.

Argument: If Sunday hunting were allowed, fathers/mothers would spend less time with their families. I.E. Deer season widows.

1) The state has no place in dictating “family time”. This is a personal issue.
2) This Ban does not forbid: Golf, Fishing, NASCAR, NBA, NFL, NHL, or any other “past-time” that could take place on Sunday, thus taking a family member away from “family time”.

Argument: I want to go to church on Sunday. Sunday is a day of rest.

1) Repeal of this Ban would not keep anyone from attending church.
2) The state has no place enforcing/supporting the doctrine of any religion

Argument: Church services would be disturbed or attendance would go down.

1) People attend church on Wednesdays (a legal hunting day) and there has been no conflict.
2) Other states that allow Sunday hunting have not encountered this problem.
3) Religions other than Christianity, which have services on Fridays and Saturdays (legal hunting days), have not encountered this problem.
4) There could be “archery only” zones near places of worship or restricted zones surrounding them.
5) The state has no place ensuring church attendance.

Argument: Farmers and landowners would be forced to allow Sunday hunting on private property.

1) Farmers or landowners can dictate what activities can or cannot be conducted on their property. They simply can write “No Sunday Hunting” into their permission contracts if they so wish. It is law that hunters must carry written permission to hunt private land already.


Argument: It has always been this way.

1) Tradition is not a valid reason for denying a liberty or privilege.
2) It is one, if not the last, of the Blue Laws on the books.

Argument: Deer need a day to rest from the pressure of hunting.

1) There is no valid evidence from other states, that allow Sunday hunting, that the deer are “over-pressured”.
2) Deer are unaware of the days of the week. So they do not ‘know’ that this day is ‘safer’ than any other.
3) Many hunters go out on Sunday to scout, check their stands, cameras and/or feeders. The deer are not aware that the hunters are unarmed.
4) Although there is no study to site for the effects of Sunday hunting in Virginia, conclusions can be drawn from the data in other states.
5) There is light pressure from hunting during the week because many, if not most, hunters work during the week.

Argument: There will be an over-harvest of deer.

1) Although there is no study to site for the effects of Sunday hunting in Virginia, conclusions can be drawn from the data in other states. There has not been a negative effect on the deer herd in these states.
2) Few Virginia hunters fill all of their tags. The Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries set the limit of 6 deer per season. An increase in harvest should not drastically effect the herd population based on the present limit.

Argument: We don’t have the money to pay for extra Wardens.

1) Wardens are working on Sundays already. As a whole, they do not get Sundays off any time of the year.
2) We have, in place now, a phone and Internet check-in service. There would not be an increased workload since Sunday check-in is already available.


Argument: I want to walk in the woods on Sunday.

1) If you own your property, do not allow Sunday hunting.
2) There is no hunting in State Parks.


Argument: What good will it do?

1) Opening Sunday for hunting would allow ‘working’ hunters more opportunities to take game. Especially if Saturday is effected by inclement weather or family obligations take precedent.
2) Allowing Sunday hunting would increase the chances of hunters to supply more meat for their families, thus saving them money by extending their food budgets.
3) There would be more use of expendable goods: gasoline, scents, restaurants, and ammunition.
4) There would be increased income to Hunting Preserves and Guides.
5) There would be an increase in out-of-state hunters. This would provide increased income to local economies (Preserves, guides, hotels, gasoline, and restaurants) as well as to the VDGIF by way of an increased number of out-of-state licenses.
6) Increased income for game processors.
7) Opening Sunday to hunting will allow children who have Saturday school or extracurricular activities (football, soccer, and clubs) to hunt. They would not have to choose between the two.
Opening Sunday to hunting would allow hunters more time to enjoy participating in a way of life that many hold dear.

I would like to point out that this issue is not a “deer hunting” only issue. Although deer hunting is often the example argued. There are other game animals in the state.

hillbillyhunter1

Great post there 02bhntn (I did not realize what your "handle" actually said until I wrote it down--pretty good)

I'm sure most of the guys in states that allow Sunday hunting don't understand how opposing Sunday Hunting can be seen as logical by anybody

bassfisherman711

Guys, I really cant sign this petition. Sunday if for church and family time and relaxing. I love to hunt just like the rest of you, but we can give the animals a break for oneday and show our love for the Lord.