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RE: New Climber (for strictly bowhunting)
 

Highly recommend these as well. After buying, not liking and selling a Summit, I love the Ol'man/Gorilla line of climbers, the mesh seat is as comfortable as any and like you, I'm a napper and I'm safe in the Ol'man.

RE: New Climber (for strictly bowhunting)
 

I'd go with Lonewolf Alpha sit and climb. I installed a summit seat on my Lonewolf climber and it's much more comfortable for those long sits.

RE: New Climber (for strictly bowhunting)
 

my pre-china API has a rail that drops for bowhunting, and the foot rest can become a gun rest too...best of both worlds.

RE: New Climber (for strictly bowhunting)
 

i love the loggy (old style) but its loud if useing the climbing aid. i just grab the tree. i bought a newer one thougha dn my dad got the sit and climb style one. get ready to kill yourself in one of these things. like most of the newer stands it uses a hard plastic band and it slides on the tree like crazy. only stands ive seen that id buy are the lone wolf or this one cheap stand at wal-mart with a soft rubber gripper but its like 20lbs. for now im sticking with my 14yrd old loggy and ill be buying my wife a lone wolf cause she needs the climbing aid and that this is loud and clunky.

RE: New Climber (for strictly bowhunting)
 

Id deff buy another viper. I love mine

RE: New Climber (for strictly bowhunting)
 

I have the equalizer and love it. The seat is not the best for long sits, but I took the sling seat off of my API and put in on the equalizer and it's much more comfortable. Being able to adjust to the size of the tree as you go up is a huge bonus.

RE: New Climber (for strictly bowhunting)
 

I appreciate your replies, honestly.

Summit has a new stand out....the bullet backpacker....that folds down flat for better packing/storing. It DOES have a rail....but I KNOW I like the Summit stands for comfort (I hunted almost exclusively out of my viper, last season).....and I'll probably feel better with it there during nappy-poo times;).

Cabela's had these on sale for $219.00. I ALWAYS go to my bow shop.....before ordering anything. With shipping I was looking at $238 from Cabela's. I bought it from my bow shop for $250 (incl. tax). I'm happy....and Greg made a few bucks.

Again...I appreciate all of your help. I do value your opinions.

Jeff