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T.R. Michaels wrote us this a while back.

http://www.scentlok.com/testimonials/

"I thought I would write you and tell you of some of my experiences with your clothing. First, having been a biology student in college and having worked in the medical industry, I know charcoal is one of the best filter mediums known. However, I was skeptical about it's use in clothing. But not now. My first experience was in October when early in the morning I walked through a group of bedded does and fawns in an open field on the way to my stand. The deer heard me and spooked. When they snorted I held still, snorted back and they snorted again. I took out my grunt call and grunted, as I alternately grunted and snorted to the deer they approached me downwind. This was with an eight mile an hour wind with 80% humidity. These were optimal conditions for the deer to scent me. They actually came back to me within 15 yards. All the time I expected them to wind me and spook but they didn't They finally moved slowly away. I would like to say it was because of my camouflage but I know better it was your Scent-Lok.

The next day, under the same conditions a doe and fawn approached me when I was just glassing my area. I was not wearing Scent-Lok and when the doe got downwind she literally turned inside out. She didn't see me but reacted to my smell.

Since then I have had nine more deer in 11 days within 150 yards downwind, including one eight point buck I grunted in within 18 yds and another that I rattled in to within five yards. When I attempted to take his picture he spotted me. He spooked but I grunted to stop him then rattled him back in again to within seven yards. During this time I had about a ten mile an hour wind and the buck was at all times downwind. He definitely should have smelled me. There is no question in my mind that Scent-Lok is the reason for my success. This is a GREAT product and it should be part of every big game hunter's wardrobe.

...Thanks for a great product, I wish I had though of it." T.R.

www.trmichels.com
T.R. Michels - Minnesota

I don't know about his agenda.

RE: Scent-Lok Guaranteed!
 

The guarentee is worth about as much as the toilet paper that I used this morning.

They sell high quality clothes with a huge gimick attached. If you can get non-scentlock clothing for even $5 less get it. It doesn't work. The chemistry proves it and one wash willprove it further. Your washing machine will be covered in carbon. I wish I would have weighed my clothes before and after washing.

For all of you guys that swear by it, you're allowing marketing to rule your world. Congrats.

Tom

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Also, what we are saying is that if you use our stuff correctly, we'll take care of you. For about $250 you can get in the gig and try it out. Yeah we make no apoligies about getting busted if you don't take care of it or use it correctly. Use it correctly and we'll back you. End of story.

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I'd hate to wear something rediculous too.

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Guess we just need Mr. Michaels to explain his change in opionion. I noticed though that you didn't say he was wrong about the temperature needed to reactivate carbon. Is any part of his study incorrect Mr. Scent Loc? Again, I'd gladly go pick one up if I thought it would help.

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I've worn scent lok for the last 10 years... headnet, gloves, pants, jacket, etc..I shower before both the morning and afternoon hunts and dry with a scent free towel, I spray my equipment with scent away spray, I even wear latex gloves when handling my stand.... I take every precaution to control my scent.

I have had deer directly down wind of me that had no clue I was there, and I've also had deer walk past me to the downwind side and totally bust me. I dont think there is a way to go TOTALLY undetected.Do I think it works? No. Did I think it worked at one time? Yes. Do I still wear it? Yes, because the garment is still in great shape...lol

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Please go back up and read my last post and answer those questions.

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You are correct, you cannot totally eliminate your human odor, but you can reduce it. Most whitetails accept a certain amount of human odor. If they didn't, they be on the run 24/7 unless they live in such a dense area that humans don't exist. In my hunting area, there are humans 360 degrees around the woods. If they didn't accept some human odor, why would they live there. The key to is to reduce your odor to an acceptable level so when they do wind you, they think your not as close as you really are. If Scentlok or Scent Blocker and Scent Killer helps me to that, which it has, I'm all for it.

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Rob did you read the article. It points to the fact that these suits stop working pretty quick. I think they stop working after the first wash. I don't have scientific evidence to back it but logical reasoning based on the amount of carbon in the suit Vs what is left after a wash.

When I first bought and supposedly activated my suit I did the fart test. I even used a double layer and it still passed through. There is very loosely supported evidence to support that these suits work and lots of scientifice evidence that they don't.

I'm tired of the large companies with large advertising budgets ruining our sport by turning it into a money mill of wasted dollars. I was in Home Depot the other day looking for rachet straps. The had all kinds and in assorted colors and most came in 4packs that cost $15. The camo colored straps were over $18 and they only gave you two for the exact same strap. They think we are idiots.

Tom

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statjunk, like I mentioned in my first reply, I don't care how much or little they work, if they work a little, that's a plus for me and mentally, it's major. I haven't spent the big money on the expensive suites. I have the under layers like the Base Slayer because none of them make them in good camo, ie open pattern. So if they work or not, I didn't spend alot of money and I use them as undergarments. It's win, win if they do.

Again, I'm trying to minimize my scent as much as possible and I look at it this way, they have to work at least a little or they wouldn't use the same tech in chemical suites. Right?

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Meaning if it was cheaper like the price of normals clothes it would be worth trying because therefore youd have nothing to lose. Thanks for looking at that with so much "detail".

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To me this is a reasonable way of looking at it Rob. The slogans of "forget the wind....just hunt"and testimonialsof "I would have never kiled the Blah Blah Blah without it are what bothers me the most.

What exactly is the guarantee? That if I use it and use it corectly I will not be winded? How can this be determined?

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This is where I am going to exit the conversation. I understand you don't want Scent-Lok, fine. Thanks. But before you accuse people of "ruining a sport" learn the facts and of the situation. We sponsor, support and maintain many organizations, government agencies and individuals to help grow and maintain this sport we all share. We are in congress this sport not only in this state you and I share, but nationally in virtually ALL states. We are helping kids learn how to keep our hunting grounds not only safe, but clean and better then they found it. We are helping physically challenged hunters find new ways to enjoy the sport with better equipment so that disabilities aren't a limiting factor. In addition we are a major supporter of Hunt for a Cure benefitting Cystic Fibrosis and have raised well over $400,000 by bringing hunters together to fight a great cause. None of this is even mentioning the other companies who have equally stepped up to grow the sport with their large budgets.

It is a very sad moment when hunters are personally attacking other hunters because of the business they are in. Maybe you don't know but many of us here at Scent-Lok are hunters just like you. We are ethical and follow the rules of the land, just like you. Rather then sticking to a subject about products and their uses, you decide to weaken this sport by alienating other team members and other ethical hunters. Don't you think all of us, products aside, have enought to fight and stand up for? I know much of the ground I used to hunt on as a kid is now a subdivision.

I respect the individuals on this board who challenge our products. They are entitled to their opinions and thoughts. I won't challenge that. Atlasman, to name one, challenges me every time I post anything, however he maintains a certain level of respect. It frustrates me to know their are hunters out in this world who would rather win a small battle and lose ground in a large war.

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PM me if anybody has any specific question about their suit or the Guarantee

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You have got to be kidding me. So you are a charitiable organization now. Wow I never knew. Maybe I should just sign over everything I own upon death because after all Scentlok is looking after our hunting rights. I'm sure you are doing some goodby fleecing hunters out of their hard earned dollars and keeping a sizable profit for yourself. Save the lines of children who will never get to hunt and splitting up hunters etc... for people who have no common sense to see that you are peddling a product that doesn't work as advertised and charging a lot for it all the while laughing it up all the way to the bank.

Tom

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Please don't be discouraged from posting on the forums because of the reaction of afew. Majority of the users will read and not post, so your message is getting out there to the people who want it. The vast few that try to discredit your product are obviously uninformed and simply respond without any cognitive thinking.

I personally have a suit, but have not used it yet. I feel the same way as others do in regards to trying a product before completely disregarding it. As far as your company being bad for the sport of hunting, I completely and solely disagree. From what I have read and what I have seen your company is making a profit yes, but is also returning your profit back into the sport that others are trying so hard to destroy.

I can't speak for all hunters but will speak for some and say "Thank you!"

He never said that they were a charitiable organization, hesimply statedScent Lok is not bad for the sport of hunting.

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Selling a product that cannot possibly work given its design parameters and feeding off the fears of hunters is bad for our sport.

Tom

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I've gotta tell you that I have never been a big believer in this type of scent eliminator. Especially from what I have read about the military carbon suits and the extreme high temperature needed to reactivate the carbon (much more then a dryer) and the fact that their suits remain sealed until used.

But when I was in Colorado a few years ago, all of the guides swore by the stuff. Now I kind of took it by the hip with their opinions. But hearing TR Michaels and his stated opinion, I'd have to think twice. That fella is NOT the endorsement type and his opinion IMO are genuine. He's a very respectable man who has done an absolute ton of studies on deer behavior in the field.

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Thank you Ryan.

Since the thread starterdecided to exit the thread, and all anyone wants to do is attack a manufacturer which is against HNI posting rules, it's no longer a point worth discussing. Consider it closed.