Open Season - Movie (Modern Day Bambi?)
#12
RE: Open Season - Movie (Modern Day Bambi?)
ORIGINAL: NEW61375
I'm taking my five year old. He hunts with me and wants to see it. It is just a movie. It will be good for a few laughs and I'm sure we will probably both enjoy it. I don't worry at all about the influencefrom whathe sees in 1 1/2 hr kids movie, because thatdoesn't even remotely compare to what he learns from me and the others in his family on a daily basis. I'll take the dum 'ol hunter references and stereotypes with a grain of salt, those jokes and stereotypes have been around a lot longer than this movie. For example here is a good one titled "Why Redecks Can't Be Paramedics":
> A couple of rednecks are out in the woods hunting when one of
>them
> suddenly grabs his chest and falls to the ground. He doesn't seem
>to be
> breathing; his eyes are rolled back in his head.
> The other redneck whips out his cell phone and calls 911.
> He gasps to the operator, "I think Bubba is dead! What should I
> do?"
> The operator, in a calm soothing voice says,
> "Just take it easy and follow my instructions. First, let's make
> sure he's dead."
> There is a silence..........then a shot is heard.
> The redneck's voice comes back on the line, "Okay, now what?
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I'm taking my five year old. He hunts with me and wants to see it. It is just a movie. It will be good for a few laughs and I'm sure we will probably both enjoy it. I don't worry at all about the influencefrom whathe sees in 1 1/2 hr kids movie, because thatdoesn't even remotely compare to what he learns from me and the others in his family on a daily basis. I'll take the dum 'ol hunter references and stereotypes with a grain of salt, those jokes and stereotypes have been around a lot longer than this movie. For example here is a good one titled "Why Redecks Can't Be Paramedics":
> A couple of rednecks are out in the woods hunting when one of
>them
> suddenly grabs his chest and falls to the ground. He doesn't seem
>to be
> breathing; his eyes are rolled back in his head.
> The other redneck whips out his cell phone and calls 911.
> He gasps to the operator, "I think Bubba is dead! What should I
> do?"
> The operator, in a calm soothing voice says,
> "Just take it easy and follow my instructions. First, let's make
> sure he's dead."
> There is a silence..........then a shot is heard.
> The redneck's voice comes back on the line, "Okay, now what?
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A couple rednecks are out hunting when one accidentally shoots the other. Hoss, runs to the truck andcalls 911. Operatortells Hoss to get his buddy to the road to wait for the ambulance.
Ambulance shows up and EMT examines Bubba, looks at Hoss and tells him Bubba is dead. Hoss is all broke up and asks what he could have done to help Bubba.
EMT replies "You shouldnt have gutted him before putting the rope around his neck and dragging him out of the woods"
#15
RE: Open Season - Movie (Modern Day Bambi?)
ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter
I don't think Bambi was intended to be an anti-hunter film either.
I've got mixed feelings about this one, while the kids may think its hilarious, will the non-hunting and anti-hunting adults see it in the same light? Or will it make us all look bad? I'm thinking the latter of the two will be the case.
ORIGINAL: nutter
it looks funny, i dont think its really an anti hunter film...
it looks funny, i dont think its really an anti hunter film...
I've got mixed feelings about this one, while the kids may think its hilarious, will the non-hunting and anti-hunting adults see it in the same light? Or will it make us all look bad? I'm thinking the latter of the two will be the case.
#17
Spike
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Posts: 99
RE: Open Season - Movie (Modern Day Bambi?)
I think the greatest danger from movies of this type is the humanizing of animals. Anyone who spends a significant amount of time around animals (even housepets) quickly realizes there is a huge difference between human beings and even the highest animals. However, in a society becoming increasingly divided from nature, there is a temptation to be persuaded by cartoon amimals and animal movies (e.g. Eight Below) that animals have human qualities such as self consciousness, the ability to comprehend time or anticipate suffering, etc.
Consider the number of people who think that meat comes from the grocery store in neat packages. The idea of slaughtering and then butchering an animal is repugnant to them which is hypocritical since that is the only way for them to get that package of hamburger. It was not so long ago that slaughtering/butchering one's own meat was commonplace: now it is rare except for hunters.
Of course, any one who considers the subject rationally will be influenced more by the sound arguments of their hunting friends than by movies. Unfortunately, not everyone is rational: childhood images of Bambi, a talking deer with feelings and animal friends, together with a general disconnect from the real (natural) world causes them to oppose sound animal population management (hunting) and the benefits that follow (food).
They equate the experience of a deer with an arrow through the both lungs (a quick and nearly painless death; moreso than they are likely to experience any other way) with the same thing happening to a human being. The deer perceives danger and injury and seeks to escape, but cannot comprehend what has taken place nor contemplate approaching death and what that means as a human being can.
Consider the number of people who think that meat comes from the grocery store in neat packages. The idea of slaughtering and then butchering an animal is repugnant to them which is hypocritical since that is the only way for them to get that package of hamburger. It was not so long ago that slaughtering/butchering one's own meat was commonplace: now it is rare except for hunters.
Of course, any one who considers the subject rationally will be influenced more by the sound arguments of their hunting friends than by movies. Unfortunately, not everyone is rational: childhood images of Bambi, a talking deer with feelings and animal friends, together with a general disconnect from the real (natural) world causes them to oppose sound animal population management (hunting) and the benefits that follow (food).
They equate the experience of a deer with an arrow through the both lungs (a quick and nearly painless death; moreso than they are likely to experience any other way) with the same thing happening to a human being. The deer perceives danger and injury and seeks to escape, but cannot comprehend what has taken place nor contemplate approaching death and what that means as a human being can.
#18
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 457
RE: Open Season - Movie (Modern Day Bambi?)
ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter
I don't think Bambi was intended to be an anti-hunter film either.
ORIGINAL: nutter
it looks funny, i dont think its really an anti hunter film...
it looks funny, i dont think its really an anti hunter film...
It has taken 4 yrs of marriage and countless "lessons" for me to just begin to undo the brainwashing that took place in my wife's head by her mother and her almost fascist attitude towards hunting. I count it among many blessings in our marriage that she's embraced my passion and declared her desire to hunt. I still personally don't think she'll pull the trigger when the moment of truth arrives, but none the less, I'll be just as proud of her because she's already overcome sooo many mental barricades just deciding she wants to.
You guys that are going to see "Open Season" are parially right about it being politiclypointless comedy. That's exactly what the AR groups that pushed this project through the studios want, is for us to see it that way. However, trust me when I say that the writters of this film, nor the producers, nor the directors, had any interest in depicting hunting accurately. This Movie has nothing to do with reality. But neither did Bambi. That didn't stop an entire generation worth of city-dwelling kids from associating hunters from murderers, did it? Your patronage of this film is nothing short of validating Hollywood's beleif that nothing is sacred. Remember that 90% of your ticket admission goes to the studio.
What happened to all the conviction and passion we saw when the WHA was all but tarred and feathered on this site for their mis-representation of hunting? But now because it's a movie, "oh its harmless"..... "Open Season will have a far greater impact on children then the WHA ever will. Children are our only hope for the future of this great way of life we cherish so much. Why jeopardize that future by poisening it with AR Properganda.
#19
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 457
RE: Open Season - Movie (Modern Day Bambi?)
Well put BowHntrRick. What's even more disheartening is the fact they are TARGETING children with this drivel.
#20
RE: Open Season - Movie (Modern Day Bambi?)
I saw the trailer and laughed. It looks like the animation, the writing, and acting are excellent. That should be beside the point. This movie seems designed to humanize animals and villify hunters and hunting.
I'll bet you guys don't support political candidates that you disagree with just because he's a good sppeaker or is good looking. The medium and execution are irrelevant. The message is the point.
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I'll bet you guys don't support political candidates that you disagree with just because he's a good sppeaker or is good looking. The medium and execution are irrelevant. The message is the point.
-- FLIX