broadhead decision....
 

today i bought some Rocky Mountain Assassin 3 blade mechanicals. they are the "jackknife" design with the rubber O ring..i am running low on sleep so i didnt shoot too much..but did test them once. i fired a fieldpoint first..then the mechanical. the mecanical sliced a blazer right in half off the FP arrow and then blew straight through my BH target like it wasnt there. is "high denisty foam" its only like 3 inches thick, but stoped every arrow launched into it. the mechanical FULLY opened before exiting the foam and blew STRAIGHT through the target and through a tarp and burried into my haybale backstop. my jaw dropped. my muzzys stop half way down the shaft..if i hit a worn spot they stop right about at the fletchings. i was impressed. my muzzys hit dead on with the FPs also. if i would shot the muzzy too i would probably ruined 3 arrows.

my question is.....should i hunt with the mechanicals?? i think im a little light on KE and speed..but i dont know...im shooting right about 260fps and right about 60lbs of KE. the mechanicals have a 1 1/2 inch cut...what do you guys think?? just stick with the muzzys and save the mechanicals for turkey or you think they would do good on deer too?? i never thought id like mechanicals, but now i see why the guys that shoot them like them. that 1.5 inch cut is impressive..though i know they will burn KE QUICK..and have a tendancy to break etc....i just dont know..they were impressive..and i want to shoot them a little more..but i dont know..any opinions?? like i said the muzzys shoot perfect too..not like im trying to get good flight..now im just looking for max devistation to put deer down quick and give me a good blood trail. i would never bothered with the mechanicals but they sell for 25$ for 3..i got them for 12$. couldnt pass that up..if nothing else they would be great turkey medicane wouldnt they?

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Ok, here is my 2 cents. Go with the Muzzys for deer. They have a good track record and you can have full confindence that they will not fail you.



TP

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Iknow just how you feel.[:-] I've shot Wasp Hammer SSTs for the last 10 years. They are a great broadhead. I have two hunting bows, each with their own quiver of Hammers. A buddy of mine is a life long member of his familys archery bussiness. I do all my shopping there. Him and his father have taken many huge bucks with archery gear. For the last 15 years, my buddy has used nothing but expandables. On his recomendation, I picked up my first pack of them. I got the Wasp Jackhammers, adjust a cut. 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 inches. Mainly for turkey, but I'd like to try them on a deer. I'm going to try to get some does right away so I'll give one a shot and see how it works.

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You've got your Muzzys hitting with your field points so I would go with them. Save your mechanicals for turkey season and use them then.

I think there are too many things that can go wrong with a mechanical to use them on big game. Those Muzzys will drop a deer quick and you don't have to worry about the blades not opening, breaking, etc...

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I was in the same boat. I couldn't decide between spitfires with a 1 1/2" cut or my slick tricks. I used the spitfires on turkey and they blew a huge hole. I was SO tempted to use them on deer this year but I went with reliability over cutting diameter and chose the slick tricks. I'm just nervous about the fact that the only thing holding the mechanical broadhead together is the single screw at the base of the blades.

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I learned the hard way with Machanicals, tried the Jackhammer, Splitfire, and the Teyken II. Don't learn the hard way like I did. Stick with fixed heads, just one less thing to go wrong. Many fixed heads that fly like field tips out there, it is also a proven fact that expandables don't get as good penetration. Use a stinger will out penetrate any expandable pluse fly like a field tip.

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thank you all for your input. thats the way i was leaning and thinking. thats how i always felt about mechanicals.

gzg..thats part of their downfall...long blades and that litttttle stupid screw. the longer the blade the more it hits and has to take..then it takes MORE because its longer and everything.

tschammel...thats why i posted the question..to see just how...real...the horror stories we all hear actually are. my theory before using them was why not just be safe and use blades already open. but after it blew a 1.5 inch hole through my target and kept going impressed me. i probably hit a bad shotup section of foam. ill bet thats what happened.

Muzzys it is..1 got 5 brand new ones ready to roll. 35yds i hit bullseyes with my FPs......why change something that been proven time and time again??? come fall turkey when im in some of my turkey locations ill carry one of the mechanicals. i think itll anchor a turkey nicely if i am so lucky to get a shot at one.

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if they are both flying well, bring a few of each.

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There was a time on HNI and some of you might remember, I was very anti mechanical but with very good reason. Back then they first came out and there were problems. I heard horror story after horror story about mechanical failures and lost game. The biggest reason I feel was education about mechanicals. Too many novice bowhunters thought they were the fix all for there less than perfectly tuned bows. They couldn't get fixed blades to fly so they'd take a short cut to mechanicals. Even with mechanical heads, the bow should be tuned to get the utmost peformance from the arrow/head.

Since then, mechanicals have come a long way. I still am not as much a fan of "jackknife" style heads as I am about the reverse opening mechancals like Rocky Mountain Snypers and their new XP3. Up until I let 5 Shot talk me into trying the Snypers because of his review on them ranking them equally with Muzzy's which I used the previous 10 plus years. I extensively tested the Snypers before I would ever consider shooting an animal with them and everything 5 shot said was true....they were amazing. I've shot 4 bucks with the Snypers and the holes are amazing, the entrance hole is bigger than the exit hole because of the opening style of these heads. That's where my concern is with "jack knife" style heads, they are not open on impact, they open through impact leaving a smaller entrance hole (those who can elaborate on this please do so/ or correct this) and a large exit hole because of cutting diameter but what happens if they don't exit? Is the entrance hole a punture?

Back to mauser06, if your Muzzy's are hitting with your field points, they are a garuantee, you have enough KE depending on your arrow weight for a mechanical so ultimately the decision is yours. You've read where I can have my Muzzy's driving tacks so why would I use a Snyper, simple...the devastating entrance hole, no other reason.

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good points rob. i wish i had something good to test it in. mainly penetration. ill probably keep them for turkeys for now. if i ever get a shot at a turkey or groundhog or yote etc ill see how i like it and trust it. that 1.5 inch cut sucks me back lol....we will see. i still feel more comfortable with muzzys. already open....sharp..accurate..cant go wrong.