Kisser button...
 

I want to put on a kisser button becauseI think I keep changing my anchor point and I believe my consistancy suffers from it. Somewhere I heard not to use oneif you use a string loop. Is this true? Also how much speedwill I lose by using one?Are there any draw backs to using a kisser button? Thanks in advance.

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Depending on the size of the kisser button you decide to go with, you'll lose anywhere from 2 - 5 FPS.

As for not using one with a loop, that's completely false. I've shot the last three years using a string loop and a kisser button. You'll be fine using both.

Good luck with getting your anchor point situation dealt with.

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Ive used a kisser for the last 6 years with few ill effects ONE get use to using it with your facemask on before season. you dont have to bury a kisser in your mouth it there as a touch point get use to touching it to your mouth in the same spot I like using 3 anchor points hand to back of jaw. kisser corner of mouth and string side of nose

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Thanks guys. I usually hunt with a face mask and I see Cabelas sells 2 kisser buttons. The bigger one says "good to use with face masks", so I guess I'll be better off with that one.

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I used to use a kisser button but I had trouble feeling it through my facemask. I switched to a peep instead and removed the kisser. This allows me to continue to use my scentlok mask.

A kisser button and face paint is another good option.

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I use a peep and will still use it when I put on the kisser button.

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I use a kisser buttonand a peep,have been since I started bow hunting, the spped reduction is minimal with the kisser as long as you put a smaller one on like mine. I hardley know its there. I draw back i feel it hit the corner of my mouth breath out, and shoot. Bullseyes every time.

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I have a better question, how do you feel the kisser button will make you more consistant? If you already have a peep using a kisser button probably won't help much in reality. Especially if you anchor it to the corner of your mouth which can move quite easily from shot to shot. If you are not lined up perfectly your mouth will move to find the kisser button.

If you want to shoot more consistantly install a No Peep on your bow, or use a smaller peep.

Or pay more attention to your form and current anchor points. Blind bale shooting can't hurt either.

And when you shoot, do you center the pin in the peep, or the housing in the peep? If you center the pin in the peep a kisser will not work to well for you because as your distance increases your anchor points will change slightly.

Paul

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My problem seems to be that sometimesI will anchor to the corner of my mouth other times to my jaw and sometimes I even pull away from my face. I just feel that it would help me to be consistant.

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I shoot with a kisser button and NO peep at all. With consistant form and anchor point, you don't need a peep...which in my opinion can become a problem in low light situations. I have shot this way for the last 6 years...since I got my last bow and the pro shop guy talked me into trying it. Not every arrow is in the "X" ring, but I think putting 5 inside a 3 inch circle will be good enough to handle things.
Good luck with whatever you decide.

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I think using as many tools as possible helps to be consistant. I use a peep and a kisser. I've tried going with one or the other and things just aren't consistant at all.

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I used one for a long time. I always anchored my thumb behind my neck, so now I can do that and still have the same anchor point. I like the idea of added consistency.

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WOW, every time? :D

I just don't experience the speed reductions that are always supposed to happen with things like tubed peep sights, string silencers, etc. My bow shoots the exact same speed post adding a rubber tube and peep and I was told it would slow it down 3-5 fps. Not that it would make any difference anyway, but I doubt adding a kisser would make any recognizable difference. If you think it would make you more consistent, use it.

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I think huntingson hit the nail on the head. I personally believe a kisser does help with a consistant anchor point.;)

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I had the same problem. Put a kisser on and my groups improved alot.

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The kisser button is meant to be an alternitive to using a peep, you really just don't need both. Heck I shoot pretty well without either, but I am more accurate with a peep, especially at longer distances.

After reading what you said I don't think a kisser button will help you. It may in the start, but before long you will most likely have the same problems. If you don't draw consistantly now how are going to set the kisser in the correct spot? And how is the kisser button going to work for you if don't even touch the string to your face now? If you don't use the anchor points you already have consistantly I don't see how adding another is going to help you. A kisser button is the least consistant anchor point you can have. And it sounds like you intend on relying on it to set your anchor. I think this is a bad idea. I just don't see the point unless you are shooting without a peep, and then I still wouldn't use one personally.

I think you need to work on your form and consistancy from shot to shot, not add another gizmo to your bow. Just my opinion though.

You should have around 5 anchor points as it is. The string to the tip of your nose, the string touching your lips or corner of your mouth (where you would put the kisser button), the fletchings of the arrow touching your face somewhere between your lips and chin, where your release hand touches your face, and your peep sight.

A properly set peep sight should be directly in your line of sight at full draw. You should be able to draw the bow with your eyes closed hitting all your other anchor points, then when you open your eyes the peep should be right there. You shouldn't have to shift your head around or bend down into the string to line up with it. There is no way you should be drawing your bow away from your face. If you can draw your bow and not touch your face chances are you have too long of a draw possibly. Or you are afraid of touching the string to your face.

You should NOT be able to rest your thumb on the back of your neck. This is bad form and if you can do it your draw length is too long or your release is too long. Both will cause the same problems.

I think you need to have someone look at your form and how you shoot. Then work on correcting these problems. I would love to tell you that you could add a 3 dollar kisser to your bow and it would solve all your problems. However I just don't feel that is the case.

You don't have to buy a kisser either, you could just put a knot on your string with some serving material or string loop material.

Another thing people use is a Noser, basically a small knot on the string where the string touches the tip of your nose.

And the only thing either of these will cure is being off high or low from shot to shot. It shouldn't make a difference with left to right misses. That is another issue you would need to work on.

Paul

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try it with a kisser and then without.

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I've tried both and I'm more accurate with a larger peep and centering the round sight housing in the peep. Adding a kisser along with a peep would certainly not give me additional accuracy.

You sure can see great without a peep though. I might try a no-peep next year.