baiting vs. non baiting
 

I would like to know what your point a view on baiting is? If you do
why? and if you dont why not?

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I do not, and will never bait. I beleive, in my own opinion, that baiting deer, isn't hunting. Drawing a deer in with food, and then shooting it, isn't hunting. It's just....Just...Not hunting. Hunting requires hours of preporation, time spent scouting, following the deer's trails. Finding scrapes and rubs. Picking out that perfect tree for your stand. And then somebody hunts over a bunch of grain or hay or some other form of feed, and gets a big buck. Then that guy will go to work and brag to his buddies about how he had to walk miles upon miles and then shoot 600 yards across a canyon then drag it up hill all the way back to his truck. Its just not hunting.

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I agree with WASHINGTON HUNTER. Baiting should be illegal. It is here in Minnesota.

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I don't know about anyone else but there are so many deer where I hunt I probably wouldnt be able to sort through the deer to shoot one. I don't believe in baiting...you could say that I think it's cheating

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It's really a matter of choice. But if you do hunt over bait it is not deer hunting, it's deer killing.

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I do have feeders out but don't hunt over them. I will put freinds or family in a stand over a feeder if its their first hunt or they are just looking to put meat in the freezer. I also plant food plots and its basically the same in my point of view, supplying the deer with food source thats not natural, and I do hunt the food plots. Most of your bigger bucks aren't going to come to a feeder during daylight anyhow

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It's really a matter of choice. But if you do hunt over bait it is not deer hunting, it's deer killing.
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If that aint a double edged sword statement , I dont know what is!<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

At least three times a year , every year , someone posts this same thread because their just curious what everyones opinion is<img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle> In fact I'd have to say , up-archer , if you've been around here since August , you've already seen this topic and know very well how it will end up being nothing but a counter productive topic that just gets hunters fighting among hunters!
IMO , any hunter who makes a statement like &quot;if you hunt over bait it's not deer hunting it's deer killing&quot; isn't any better than PETA!<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>


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Let me see if I can sum this up since the argument turns out the same every single time:

One side will say: It's cheating; real hunters don't have to use bait; it's too easy; it's for lazy hunters; it isn't fair chase.

The other side will say: You only say that because you can't use it; most deer don't use it during the day anyhow; it's no different than hunting a corn field or food plot.


What else did I forget guys? It's only been a month or two since this argument last popped up so I may have forgot something. I agree w/ BFanatic, this argument is counter-productive (no matter which side you are on). Especially since it almost seems to be the monthly favorite.

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Man, I could write an article a mile long on this topic, but I just don't feel like it! I will say this though, I live in Louisiana where baiting is legal, and I promise you there ain't nothing surefire about it. I would trade these miles and miles of monotonous pine thickets for farm country hunting any day. You guys that are fortunate enough to hunt in farming areas that are against baiting need to quit hunting around the fields, same goes for you food plot hunters. And by the way, why don't we all just quit using scents for hunting. GIVE ME A BREAK GUYS, IF IT'S LEGAL IN AN AREA THEN SHUT UP, IF NOT THEN GREAT!

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Let me add something else, I can understand folks personal feelings and that's o.k. My post above is directed at those that have and will make the negative comments against baiting. I don't want to offend those that just feel a certain way, but refrain from posting negative stuff about it. Also, being from a state where baiting is legal, you would think that I'm 100% for it. Well I'm not really, I think that it changes the way deer move, but with all the clearcutting going on and older pine thickets in our area, I really don't think the number of does that need to taken could be accomplished otherwise. On the other hand if it were outlawed tomorrow would it bother me? No not really, we use corn on our box stands where we are either on a pipeline, or have long shooting lanes in cutovers, and if the corn does anything at all, it may help hold the does in our area so we might get a chance to see a good buck when they start chasing, but the taking of a good buck directly at a cornpile is a very very rare occurence. In fact, I've been hunting my area for 21 years now, and I've never even had a chance at a good buck directly over corn, all the good bucks I've ever taken were either from a known buck crossing, chasing does, or from a climber. And I never even think about using corn when I'm hunting from a climber, because if I'm in my climber it is because I've got something scouted out.

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Thats asking for both positive AND negative feedback...

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yes i hunt over bait i hunt over filds and i hunt in the woods with no bait.

its leagle it is ethical and it is hunting whethar some people think so or not.

2 of the maine reasion i bait the nabors do so to get the deer oer here you nearly have to. and to kill more deer. to keep me from having to get a cd permit.

one of the other reasion is as simple as i want to and its leagle so i do.

i had rathe hunt with dogs but there is geting to be less land to hunt
L. O. D. Charter member and L.O.S.

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I myself do not bait the reason is where I hunt and set my stand has alot of natural food acorn's for the most and it has good cover so deer hold up in it all day,as far as hunting over bait if someone put's out bait and help's them harvest a deer or to help bring deer in to thier property because the land they own or hunt on is not that big or deer don't hold up on it then great I will even help them carrt the stuff out,we all use different method's or different equipment there is a million different thing's we could get a stupid argument going on,but instead let's back the other guy up even if you dont like how he or she hunt's if you dont approve then fine dont respond.But if everyone dont or we argue over trival thing's peta has another victory even if they dont know it UNITE SPORTSMAN

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Those againest baiting may, or may not, be the same ones who hunt by a corn field or food plot, what's the differance? Just asking.

I do not like to bait because I think it makes the deer skittis. Big bucks will only feed at night(that's why they are big bucks). Good way to cull the doe population.

If it's legal and in your area. More power to you.

Let's all show some love.

&quot;Kill'em and Grill'em&quot;
By The Nug (aka Ted Nugent)

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I personally do not pile up apples or pour out grain for deer but I do hunt around orchards and fields oh yeah and I hunt around acorns now some would say that I hunt over bait but as I dont put it there and nature does yes I take advantage of it. Bowfanatic is right on this is a useless post we all hunt our own ways and do what works for us. If it is legal to hunt over bait in your state and you do then there is nothing wrong with it. To me there is no difference in that and sitting on a trail leading to their feeding grounds. Oh and what about the guys that hunt the RUT yeha thats real sporting lets wait until they are so hor=y they cant see anything but the doe in front of them and them shoot them.

Well wakeup and smell the real outdoors I have hunted deer for over 40 years and the hunting is far better now then it was when I first started and only seems to be getting better. I have gotten better at finding deer and at figureing out how they move and what they do and that is the main reason that I now take at least one deer a year with my bow. And the fact that I have some pretty good place to hunt.

I do have a friend that hunts over bait that he places way out in the mountains and so far this year he has no deer at all while I on the other hand have a freezer full and I am hunting on the edge of fields oh I'm sorry I guess that is baiting .

ROY

Edited by - royak on 11/08/2002 08:38:14

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If its legal do it

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I always wonder when someone first post is on a subject like this.<img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

Troll alert?

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Deer baiting was outlawed in Wisconsin this year because of CWD. I did notice that I see a lot more deer now than last year on public land when baiting was legal. The deer I do see are also browsing, and not just transiting from a bedding location to a bait pile.

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I don't bait. but have nothin against the hunter that does.

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Baiting is <font size=6>GAY</font id=size6>
We have to bait where i live or you dont see any deer at all! My neighbor owns a farm market. He owns the property that butts up to ours and he has truck loads of bait that he brings in. He has thousands of left over pumpkins that he also uses. I do my early season scoutin and it does me no good cause as soon as he starts baiting you dont see deer anymore. The little bait that I do put out is just enoug to see 1-3 deer a day if your lucky.

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All of my friends use bait and if you ask them &quot;Do you hunt over bait?&quot; they become uncomfortable. Until a couple of years ago it was illegal to use bait in Delaware and therefore unethical. Now that it is legal, does this make it ethical?

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i live in the north carolina foothills, close to the blue ridge parkway.the topic of baiting comes up alot here, it is LEGAL to bait in our area.because of the terrain (chock full of laurel thickets,etc)most of my hunting partners and myself,we do bait. my uncle lives in alabama(we call him a flatlander),when he came to visit he commented that if he moved here, he would have to learn how to hunt all over again because of how the lay of the land differs from where he hunts.i said that to say this,everybody's hunting situation differs from each other,so for one to say that it is wrong to bait anywhere at anytime is like saying that we should all have to hunt from ground blinds or from treestands & not both.what i believe we all need to do is to thank GOD that we live in a country where we can participate in the hunting tradition & that we should unite against those who would have us to forever lay our guns & bows down and not enjoy what the GREAT CREATOR has given to us.lets lay aside all this petty junk that gives fuel to the &quot;anti's&quot; and enjoy a great deer season,best of luck to everyone.

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We have to bait where i live or you dont see any deer at all! My neighbor owns a farm market. He owns the property that butts up to ours and he has truck loads of bait that he brings in. He has thousands of left over pumpkins that he also uses. I do my early season scoutin and it does me no good cause as soon as he starts baiting you dont see deer anymore. The little bait that I do put out is just enoug to see 1-3 deer a day if your lucky.
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So , does that mean your <font size=5>GAY</font id=size5>? Or , your forced to be <font size=5>GAY</font id=size5>?