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GregH 08-25-2006 02:57 PM

RE: Arrow length Question
 

ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr

...but changing tip weight doesn't change your spine a whole lot either way. I mean if you are a whole spine selection off no tip weight change is going to correct that. At least not one that will give you a good balance for specs.
I believe point weight can help quite a bit. I used big arrows for indoor competition on the national level in mens freestyle (3rd place). I've tuned 2512's with length modification and 190 gr. points and 2613's with 220 gr. points. Those two arrow sizes won't be found anywhere close to a 55 lb draw weight @ 29". So I tuned them with arrow length and point weight. You can buy points with an adjustable weight range just for the purpose of tuning.

davidmil 08-25-2006 03:08 PM

RE: Arrow length Question
 
For those shooting fingers or off a shelf, springy or something like that it's much more critical as it all has to do with spine. You already impart archers paradox and have to tune for the best flight. If you're shooting off a fall away with a string loop and release, you can shoot a much larger variation of arrow length, head weight, spine etc and get away with it.If you can tune them, shoot good bullet holes with broadheads and field points and have them hitting the same place you can shoot a broom handle if you want to. I too have my arrows aboout an inch longer if not more than they need to be. I too was looking for a few extra grains and a quieter bow. Shooting a release, fall away and a loop I can put just about any head on and do just fine.

Paul L Mohr 08-25-2006 04:52 PM

RE: Arrow length Question
 
I get you there, but for most people, especially in a hunting application you are dealing with three weights, 85 grns, 100 and 125, or somewhere in between there. That little of a weight difference really doesn't effect spine that much. And if you went any more severe in either direction it may effect your FOC so much it wouldn't be worth doing.

Last time I went to my local pro shop I didn't see any 220 grn broad heads on the shelf;). As a matter of fact most pro shops don't even carry target nibbs because they are geared towards hunters, not target archers. Where I live if you want anything fancy or target oriented you are ordering it from somewhere. I mean some carry some target stuff like nibbs and the such, but the selection is not that great.

I get what you are saying, just don't think it applies to the average guy. Know what I mean?

Paul

GregH 08-25-2006 10:01 PM

RE: Arrow length Question
 

ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr

I get you there, but for most people, especially in a hunting application you are dealing with three weights, 85 grns, 100 and 125, or somewhere in between there. That little of a weight difference really doesn't effect spine that much. And if you went any more severe in either direction it may effect your FOC so much it wouldn't be worth doing.

Last time I went to my local pro shop I didn't see any 220 grn broad heads on the shelf;). As a matter of fact most pro shops don't even carry target nibbs because they are geared towards hunters, not target archers. Where I live if you want anything fancy or target oriented you are ordering it from somewhere. I mean some carry some target stuff like nibbs and the such, but the selection is not that great.

I get what you are saying, just don't think it applies to the average guy. Know what I mean?

Paul
I know exactly what you mean, however I like to show a person that the sky is the limit when it comes to tuning proceedures. Then they can choose their own comfort level. I also know that you can get any weight broadhead you want, if you know how to go about it. ( sky is the limit thing) I like people to learn and take a real interest. Get my drift?

Paul L Mohr 08-26-2006 06:37 AM

RE: Arrow length Question
 
Yes I do, but I'm not sure I want 25% FOC or greater on my hunting arrows? I will admit though I have never tried it.

I don't compete, so I have never seen the need for shooting larger diameter arrows than I need for line cutting ability. So I tend to stick to more conventional set ups. Although I have been known to play around. Like shooting 21 inch 1714's for spots once just to prove arrow length doesn't effect flight. Sure a 26 series arrow might have gotten me few more points, but it doesn't mean it was more accurate, just bigger around.

But I get what you are saying. You after all talking to the guy that put 2016 shafts in 2213's last year to get them up to 450 grns;). They fit perfect by the way, almost like they were made to do it:D.

Paul


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