Well atlas you must be board

Here is my only statement to you.

I have zero game cameras’, but who cares if guys use them.

I am glad you appointed yourself the fairchase police.

Where does the line get Drawn? Good question.

I believe we have had great advancement in hunting, and each advancement has made shooting whitetails easier. You have decided hunting with a compound bow, tree stand and high tec camo is faircahse. Some might say your cheating, I really do not care, if it is legal have at it.

If you are whining about what others use, to be a true hunter I suggest you pick up a rock and go get 'em. Make sure to wear only a loin cloth, because this is how true hunters hunt.

I do not know what ticks you off about how others hunt, they are not bother you, so please do not bother them. It is real easy to look down on others from your high horse. Please your babble is just noise.

Those hunting camera are made by AMERICAN companies. Give American's Jobs!!!

I can tell you this, where I see a deer in August and September. Is not where I see themn come hunting season, and I think we both know that!!!

I think Rob summed it up rather well. As long as you don't have a pen where you hunt your game at, I don't see a problem with all the high tech gadgets. I agree most use range finders to make sure they get a clean kill. Here in Indiana it is legal to use feeders before and after the season, and there aren't any laws against food plots. I use feeders and supplements( BUCK GRUB) in which I make it a point NOT to hunt anywhere near the feeding sites. I think you could honestly say that to get completly fair chase we would need to widdle our own bows and arrows like the Indians or use spears.IMO Good luck hunting this year to all.

I am made of wood?


Not me.

I didn't.

I agree..........if it is legal and safe then have a ball...........but why do we have to use the label "fair chase".........it doesn't fit. What is wrong with calling it hunting? It's not "fair"..........look at any state with huge numbers of hunters.........the deer are lucky to live 2-3 years........very lucky.



Never said anything like that..........maybe you should re-read the thread.


Nothing...........maybe you should re-read the thread.


I agree.............maybe you should re-read the thread.

What does that have to do with the subject?? Forget re-reading it. Just read it once rather then commenting based on assumptions. I didn't say any of the things you posted about.

How are so many people missing the point???.......No one cares about gadgets..........it's not about the gadgets. That is part of the equation but not the focus.

So what you are saying is that as long as there is no pen where you hunt........that makes it "fair chase"?

"FAIR CHASE, as defined by the Boone and Crockett Club, is the ethical, sportsmanlike, and lawful pursuit and taking of any free-ranging wild, native North American big game animal in a manner that does not give the hunter an improper advantage over such animals."

I do believe that it was B&C who "coined" the phrase fellas. And I do believe that just about all 50 states specify this same definition in their game laws.

So, basically Atlasman's whole argument needs to be boiled down to: What is an "improper" advantage defined as?

imo strictly you are correct...but we all live in self tailored versions of reality. aparently from some other entries people get mad when you mess with theirs hunting is not about 'fair' it is about doing it a certain way that makes you yourself feel good about it

WEll He!! boy, you mean we've gone through 7 or 8 pages of replies over symmantics. You don't like it, don't use it. I detest the use of the word Harvest. It's killing, not harvesting. I won't use it. If someone does I tell them it's killing. So that brings us back to Fair Chase. OK, let's just calltag or something. I'll send you a dictionary and you can pick one of your own chosing.

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Actually in my post Atlas, I was talking about farmers planting soy andcorn to make a living, not planting soy or corn to bait deer. Although, maybe you did understand and still feel hunting around such areas is not fair chase. Either way, Im gonna try and KILL (like that Davemil )a big un for you and have a toast with James V!! Hope you have a great season Atlas hunting the way you like doing it bud.

Ok you got me on the board thing, hey I was all urked about something else.

Good one.

Atlas I read your post for a laugh, but you just seem mad about something. Who really cares how others hunt or what they call it. If they are obey the games laws for their state and are having fun let them have at it.

If you have an issue with fair chase call Boone & Crockett.

The last line was for no matter how many gadets we have, come hunting season it really does not matter. The deer go nocturnel, etc, etc. You could have 100 pictures of a buck in one spot, Come October he is gone!!!

I think everyone needs to go and re-read the original post. No where does atlasman say anything against people who use these gadgets What I get out of it is look around the board there are so many post about fenced hunts and things like that when the same person who is complaining is the same guy who starts a thread about baiting or what to plant in their food plot(not that there is anything wrong with that if its legal hav at it who cares what others believe) but how is that considered fair chase when having a food plot or a feeder is almost better than a fence because you no exactly where the deer will be and know they will be there. As far as what atlasman says about gear my take on it is that having a fast bow is a big advantage over say a traditional bow for example IMO anyone could pick up a compound and be able to take a deer within a few days(same with high powered rifle) ask any traditional shooter if that is possible with a recurve or long bow I bet I know what they would tell you(not saying that your not a real hunter unless you use as primative tool there is because that is just not true). As far as trail cams, how is that fair are they once again you know exactly what is there and when it is going to be there. No where does atlasman condem(sp?) anyone for using them as he has stated everytime he has defended his post. Maybe I am reading his post wrong but this is what I get out of it. Good luck and stay safe this hunting season.