ouchie
 

i havent shot in 2 days. friday i shot a few arrows and noticed my left shoulder was sore and clicking when id rotate it so i quit shooting and didnt shoot saturday or sunday. today i moved it around to make sure it was recovered and it felt fine...a tad bit of slight pain but only when i pulled it in wierd directions. so i went to shoot. i cant shoot. the pain is worse then ever. i shto a couple arrows then it got real bad and i had to quit. whats wrong with it?? i wont lie i fired about 1000 arrows in a week. i know i over did it.....but id shoot a couple and take a break....it just added up every day. its nice being able to shoot in your backyard. i just think i over did it. but this pain right now almost feels like an injury like i pulled something.....and the clicking when i rotate my shoulder is wierd.....lifting heavy boxes at work dont help.....anyone know anything about my pain? lol....cures....causes...possible things that may be wrong?? anything?? im sure i over did it but i learned my lesson! now i just wanna shoot a couple good arrows and call it a day now that i got my form and accuracy down pretty good........

RE: ouchie
 

Take a trip to your local sport and spine clinic theyll diagnos it. Sounds like you may have pulled some muscles.

RE: ouchie
 

one word bro.... DOCTOR....

if it's bad enough that you can't shoot, even after a few days rest, something is really wrong... [&:]

RE: ouchie
 

ohhh mannn.....i better not be laid up for the rest of the pre season! i got some more shootin that needs done!! ill talk to my mom when she gets home and see where i should go and what i should do.....thanx guys.....

RE: ouchie
 

well i called mom....she goes to a chiroprator pretty regularly. my uncle is almost ready to becomea chiropractor and the one my mom goes to is kinda like a family friend almost. shes calling him and im going out there to see what he says. though hes a chiropractor he knows his stuff. if he cant fix it or help me he will know who to send me to and what it is. i think work this weekend really did me in. i moved and lifted ALOT of heavy boxes and stuff and alot of over the head....bending and putting on the floor etc..im sure that cant be good for it.....when i quit shooting friday it wasnt a terrible pain..just slight and figured id take a day or 2 to rest......i dont think its ALL from shooting.....hopefully i can get someone to give me a note saying LIGHT DUTY at work! lol ill let you guys know what he says

RE: ouchie
 

I deal with workercomp injuries alot and that sounds like you strained your muscle a bit. The clicking could be from a tendon. Ice Ice Ice. I would lay off it for a couple of weeks and really baby it. But ice it for 20 min at a time. Not good before bow season. Also there is a product called Bio Freeze. It is what I use and it helps me with my pains. I wish you a speedy recov.

RE: ouchie
 

Could be the old rotator cuff. I messed up both of mine wrestling many years ago. I never had them fixed and they will flair up every now and then, especially lifting your arms over your head. If that's what it is, anyway. I found excercising and strengthening my shoulder muscles helped keep them in check but it never really goes away. But its not so bad as to consider surgery for me, anyway.

RE: ouchie
 

Sounds to me like a rotator cuff as well.

RE: ouchie
 

I hope its nothing serious, i had to have both my shoulders reconstructed after dislocating both between 50-70 times EACH. Not fun at all. USe tons of ice and baby it alot, sounds like a rotator cuff to me.

RE: ouchie
 

oh mannn i may be up chit creek it sounds like....im headed to the chiropractor RIGHT now.....see what he says....dang...a month and a half before season......im blamming work on this! and i want paid for it!! i dont think shooting my bow would seriously injure me....i used to powerlift and did ALOT of back and shoulder workouts. my shoulders are decintly strong...i havent lifted in a while but i didnt loose much because im always lifting stuff at work etc. my bow is set at 67lbs and i never struggledor had to work at drawing it....i just pulled it back...75% let off im holding back what like17lbs or so?? i dont think that will do as much injury as lifting couple hundredpound patiosets and grills at work up over my head! ill see what the doc says......hopefully its nothing serious! i didnt shoot my broadheads yet!!!!! if i had my broadheads dead on id easily rest a month. im shooting well enough to feel comfortable with 25yd shots. 35 under perfect conditions...but not unless i shoot my broadheads and shoot out of a stand!!! i hope its nothing......ill let you guys know in a couple hours.....thanx everyone.

RE: ouchie
 

prayers sent bro....

RE: ouchie
 

I've had a popping and snapping sound in my right shoulder for years. Was told it was inflamation of tendons and muscle. Use Icey/Hot gel found at local Pharmacist and ice. Heating pad before bed if available. Seems to work out the kinks. Used to work for a local grocery store warehouse, so the heavy box lifting all day combined with archery practice/hunting and any other activities that may come around tend to irritate the shoulder areas. But like I said the icey/hot gel, heat and ice seem to work for me along with a few days of easing the use of the shoulder as much as possible.

RE: ouchie
 

thanx guys. i jsut got back from the chiropractor. my goodness i should been going there since i was 10 when i started working on the farms and cutting grass! i feel 100% better. my shoulder already feels better. definently still sore and wont be shooting or doing anything with it. he said he wont know what it is for a couple visits. he said it could just be built up crap in my muscles, or possibly something serious. he said it was wierd that my left shoulder hurts(im right handed) he said all the archers say their drawing shoulders hurt..which leads me to believe something at work did it not the bow. ill be back out there wed and friday. he will probably get more indepth next time when theres not a line and probably xrays. i could definently feel something in the problem shoulder though. he felt it too because he kept going back to it and squeezing and pushing on it. the other shoulder didnt have that spot. funny how its all connected. once he started doing his thing i could feel it clear up to my head and down my arm...right now it feels better and a heck of alot looser..we will see what he says wed and friday when i see him. i just hope his adjusting and fixing will work and its nothing serious....i been dying to bowhunt all my life...i dont need tobe laid up for the first season i have a bow! though i know that if i do get laid up to just take the time off...if its something serious and i do something stupid like keep shooting and hunting..then theres probably a good chance ill be visiting the CROSS bow forums next year if i were to jack myself up lol.....ill let you guys know..thanx alot

RE: ouchie
 

Everyone I know who has hurt their shoulder archery wise is their brace arm not their drawing arm.... 2 days is generally not enough rest to deal with tendonities in the shoulder, you are talking 2 weeks and a slow build up again.. I know when I did mine the doc told me to rest for 2 weeks completely and than build up slow along with the most important thing, STRETCH and warm up those joints before shooting.. Save you a world of hurt.

RE: ouchie
 

good advice il rancher....wierd thing is i actually do stretch before shooting. i used to powerlift heavy and hard and stretching i know was very important. i know shooting takes muscle and figured it was only smart to stretch and i did. before during and after shooting. i really think it was work related. some of the patio sets and grills push 2-300lbs and we put them up onto a 8foot high sissor lift. sure theres 2 people when we do it but thats lifting up and over my head....as well as moving everything i move myself...unloading trucks etc...im sure shooting didnt help but the days i felt it when i shot i stopped immediatly. i cant prove its work related....i cant prove its from shooting..alls i know is i need to recover within a month TOPS to get back to shooting and tune my broadheads and shoot from a stand etc...hopefully ill be ok...a couple hours after the chiropractor it started to hurt again. we will see what happens. ill be sure to tell him the pain got better then worse after i seen him. hopefully i can get fixed up in time...im not doing anything tomarrow on my day off....maybe ice it...but not using it. ill let you guys know. when i get back to shooting im definently going to cool it and stretch harder and not shoot 100s of shots a day. i got my form down. im deadly to 35yds. if i get to shoot a couple broadheads a day and shoot from a stand one day before the season ill feel confident...in season ill keep practicing...ill be ok as long as im not SERIOUSLY laid up

RE: ouchie
 

I wish you a fast recovery and do not wish you any bad luck but it sure does sound like a rotator cuff to me also. I had to have surgery last yr on my right shoulder. If you need surgery then I am sorry to tell you that you will not be drawing a bow this hunting season. It took me close to 9 months before i could draw my bow back and hold it properly at full waight I hunt with. Fortantly I live in Ohio where I could use a crossbow legally. PA doesn't concider surgery as a disabilty so you can't use a crossbow in PA for surgery trust me I tried to get the premites last yr for it and I was told that I wasn't disables I was injuried and that makes the diffrence. I don't agree with it but thats what I was told :(As I stated before I wish you the best and hope it isn't as serous as mine was that makes you need surgery. My buddy right now got a rotator cuff that needs surgery and he is putting it off. He says the pain is alot less when he draws his bow low in the chest then comes up to his anchor points. He is putting off surgery becuase he already payed for a Africa hunt in sept. Well good luck and my best wishes.

Trytan

RE: ouchie
 

I too think it is a rotator cuff[:@]

RE: ouchie
 

I hurt my brace shoulder last year. Well, in actuality, most joint injuries occur over a period of time due to degenerative processes. That's what your injury sounds like. Arthroscopic surgery confirmed this for me. What to do? I could keep on shooting a bow (my bow was already down to a draw-weight of 40#), switch to a crossbow, or stop archery hunting completely. I love the season and my youngest son was just starting archery hunting, so I got a crossbow. What would happen if I would just keep using a bow? If an arthritic joint is continued to be used in a manner that contributes to the degeneration, eventually the joint will be completely gone and the only recourse is a total joint replacement. I don't know about you, but I'd rather postpone the possibility of that operation as long as possible. Again, in my case, my injury is due to wear-and-tear, not a rotator cuff or other specific tendon or muscle tear or irritation. Your chiropractor can certainly help relieve symptoms and refer you for xraysand/or asports injury doctor. Good luck and do what your doctors tell you. That's why you go to them. Remember you only have two shoulders. Is continuing to "suck it up" and keep doing harm to an already injured joint worth losing it?

RE: ouchie
 

thanx alot guys. im definently doing what the drs tell me. im hopeing i caught it early enough for it not to be serious. but i know joint problems are something that build up over time. my power lifting, farm work, daily lifting etc is rough on my shoulders im sure. we will see what the chiropractor says. wierd but it barely hurts right now. if i was stupid id grab the bow and go shoot! thank you all..ill keep you guys updated.