RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

Stealthycat... that last little bit about immediate questioning of legality is so true. A fine analysis my man. Great understanding of the world as it is.

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

davidmil

There is something wrong with "hunting" when you can go to EBAY and bid on your choice of gauranteed kill game animals.

I personally thinkwe need to step back and evaluatemuzzleload hunting when your "muzzleloader" is patterned off a Winchester rifle, uses a powder pack, bullets and primers for fire, and is accurate to 250-300 yards

I personally thinkwe need to step back and think aboutbowhunting when your compounds can make you shoot 6" groups at 80-100 yard.

But if I step back ......... no one steps with me.

Human need for easier, better, quicker, faster with less trouble, worry, practice ......... THAT is what hunting has become.

Its not about lets scout for 180 days, build stands, comraderie with the friends and family, train dogs, practice with equipment, hone our skills, and then go out and match our wits against a purely wild animals for weeks of hunting that might end with no tags filled.

No, todays world wants weapons that are super easy to become accurate with. They want ATv's to avoid walking, scouting cameras to avoid having to learn to read good deer sign, fences to avoid having to chase wild deer, mechanical heads to avoid having to fine tune a bow, an EBAY auctioned off elk to avoid having to go to Colorado and chase one, they want big bucks, opening day, as close to gauranteed as you can get.

And someone REALLY thinks they can come here and argue hunting hasn't been corrupted ?


Seriously ?

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

Ahh... a true pain in the azzz crotchetty fella that speaks his mind. I love it. Welcome to the board Stealthy.

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

Corrupt may be harsh but we do manipulate here is a question
we brag about shooting the big old smart one . but
by letting that small guy walk( the not so smart one)are we making
big (not so smart )deer to hunt.
A little hunting presure makes smart deer and sucsses even better.

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

steve m

Want a "challenge" ?

Get a recurve and hunt February for the old does :Dthats a fine trophy in any part of the country that isn't fenced :eek:

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

more than that --he's an onion with many layers (most of them oxygen-deprevating:D)


Hunting for me personally hasn't been corrupted, that's really all I or you can control, just like many things, so...........


I know why I hunt (primarily because it's fun and challenging with some other supplementary benefits). I am true to myself. All I can do is hope others are......if not, it is their own individual loss in the long run so..............

Like many things, there kitty, it's not purely black and white,some areas may have been/ are currently being corrupted. some haven't

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

I liken it to golf

There is a way to play golf. There are written rules, there are unwritten rules.

If you go out and play golf, and you hit into the brush off the tee, you don't get a "mulligan". You don't get "an extra ball". You don't have a ball in the rough and "nudge" it out onto the fairway. You don't cheat strokes.

Now, you CAN do all the above. And have fun doing it. But it aint golf. You're playing your own little made up game that looks an aweful lot like golf - but it isn't really golf.


You can go to a high fence ranch, have a little "canned hunting", grow your own big bucks, super size them bad boys, buy the best breeder bucks, keep that doe to buck ratio in line, yada yada yada and in the end boys ? You aint playing the game fair.



















And you know it

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

Almost by definition, any "obsession" is likely to beharmfull. That being said, however, deer hunting itself can become an obsession regardless of what the end result deer taken is. So can an obsession with hunting itself corrupt hunting? Of course not. I think any hunting obsession, be it killing a big buck, killing any buck, killing with a certain weapon,or even killing anything is just fine for hunting as long as we recognize that not everyone is obsessed and certainly not everyone shares the same obsession. IMO the harm/corruption begins when a hunter or group of hunters decide that their particular obsession should be everyone's and start trying to push their view on others. So to answer the question "is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting", I say no it's not. What is corrupting it is the attitude and willingness of many that share the big buck obsession to look down on other hunters ways and even try to legally force their obsession on them.

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

So you'retelling me that Cheryl back in highschool was bad and ruined $ex for me for all time? So that's what it was?/?[&:][8D]

RE: Is the obsession to shoot big bucks corrupting bowhunting?
 

cool, you have no problems then with crossbows in archery season ?

you have no problems with poison pods for arrows ?

you don't mind if I lob 125 yard shots at deer and elk ?



Want an anaology ?


The harm or corruption of sex begins when a person or group of persons decide that their particular way should be everyones and try to push their views on everyone as well.

Good anology right ? Well then why should you tellMr child pornographer that his little obeseeion doesn't fall into the lines of what is and isn't acceptable ? Wht should you try and push your views on him ?


Because we both know he's wrong, don't we ?