WHA Question
07-13-2006, 09:53 AM
#41
Super Moderator
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RE: WHA Question
PS - Dont forget that the WHA is a potential competitor for Huntingnet, so take that anyway you want but its true. The WHA site says they are going to be an interactive hunting website....Hmmmm. Makes ya think who is pushing who to say what around here.
Bowsmacker, its nearly obvious you have some sort of association with the WHA, or perhaps are even being considered as a "contestant".
07-13-2006, 09:58 AM
#42
Typical Buck
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RE: WHA Question
This just in from the Quality Deer Management Association:
http://www.qdma.com/pdf/QDMA_Opposes_WHA.pdf
Add another to the LONG list.
http://www.qdma.com/pdf/QDMA_Opposes_WHA.pdf
Add another to the LONG list.
07-13-2006, 10:35 AM
#43
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Oct 1998
Location: Hughesville, PA USA
Posts: 18,322
RE: WHA Question
ORIGINAL: Pinwheel 12
This just in from the Quality Deer Management Association:
http://www.qdma.com/pdf/QDMA_Opposes_WHA.pdf
Add another to the LONG list.
This just in from the Quality Deer Management Association:
http://www.qdma.com/pdf/QDMA_Opposes_WHA.pdf
Add another to the LONG list.
07-13-2006, 10:44 AM
#44
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RE: WHA Question
ORIGINAL: Cougar Mag
That is an ignorant statement to make. Obviously you have the wrong idea about things around here. As a member who happens to be a moderator I speak my own mind on issues such as this. HNI administration has never told us how to think! Perhaps the overwhelming majority on all of the legitimate hunting websites are against WHA and its concept because basically we all agree.
Bowsmacker, its nearly obvious you have some sort of association with the WHA, or perhaps are even being considered as a "contestant".
PS - Dont forget that the WHA is a potential competitor for Huntingnet, so take that anyway you want but its true. The WHA site says they are going to be an interactive hunting website....Hmmmm. Makes ya think who is pushing who to say what around here.
Bowsmacker, its nearly obvious you have some sort of association with the WHA, or perhaps are even being considered as a "contestant".
This thread is a prime example of what happens to people that ask honest questions and give honest opinions. Windwalker was shunned away and told to get out (Check post #6)...
I can take punches so I throw facts at people and they come up with the same statement "You must be with the WHA" "or you are a PETA plant"....This only encourages me to make people look silly that have no FACTS.I should be a contestant because I wouldthrow tennis balls atdeerfor that money, and that too would be hunting becauseyou would have to get damn close and be damnaccurate.
How come nobody on here wants to argue with facts but instead only assumptions?
HNI Admin doesnt have to tell you how to think. You work for HNI so you understand where you need to stand to keep your job...or membership, since mine is currently on thin ice for voicing my opinion.
"The human mind prefers to be spoon-fed with the thoughts of others, but deprived of such nourishment it will, reluctantly, begin to think for itself -- and such thinking, remember, is original thinking and may have valuable results." - Agatha Christie
07-13-2006, 10:50 AM
#45
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 457
RE: WHA Question
Wow... at this point the only thing I can say about bowsmacker is he should be working in D.C.... he really knows how to spin....
The liberals call me a neo-con crony,PETA calls me a murderer, and bowsmacker calls me a moron, and an attacker.... man, nobody likes me anymore.... [:-]
The liberals call me a neo-con crony,PETA calls me a murderer, and bowsmacker calls me a moron, and an attacker.... man, nobody likes me anymore.... [:-]
07-13-2006, 10:54 AM
#46
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,704
RE: WHA Question
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PS - Dont forget that the WHA is a potential competitor for Huntingnet, so take that anyway you want but its true. The WHA site says they are going to be an interactive hunting website....Hmmmm. Makes ya think who is pushing who to say what around here.
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That is an ignorant statement to make. Obviously you have the wrong idea about things around here. As a member who happens to be a moderator I speak my own mind on issues such as this. HNI administration has never told us how to think! Perhaps the overwhelming majority on all of the legitimate hunting websites are against WHA and its concept because basically we all agree.
Bowsmacker, its nearly obvious you have some sort of association with the WHA, or perhaps are even being considered as a "contestant".
PS - Dont forget that the WHA is a potential competitor for Huntingnet, so take that anyway you want but its true. The WHA site says they are going to be an interactive hunting website....Hmmmm. Makes ya think who is pushing who to say what around here.
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That is an ignorant statement to make. Obviously you have the wrong idea about things around here. As a member who happens to be a moderator I speak my own mind on issues such as this. HNI administration has never told us how to think! Perhaps the overwhelming majority on all of the legitimate hunting websites are against WHA and its concept because basically we all agree.
Bowsmacker, its nearly obvious you have some sort of association with the WHA, or perhaps are even being considered as a "contestant".
Bowsmacker, what is your affiliation with WHA, current or planned?
We are honest in who we are and in our stance - lets hear who you are!Every one of your 19 brand new posts insult everything we stand for - from American Made automobiles to our hunting traditions and values.
Most newbies start with an introduction not an argument!
You are obviously either a plant, someone's online altered ego, affiliated with WHA somehow, or are posting here only to invite attention from WHA. I suspect that is a combination of 3 of the above.
As far as competition with Huntingnet - that is total B.S. Do you know how many links, discussions,and stories are carried over or postedhere from "competitor's" websites? We discuss them all the time.
Personally, I would have banned you after your 3rd or 4th post - show some respect.
07-13-2006, 10:56 AM
#47
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,102
RE: WHA Question
Pope and Young and Boone and Crockett have also come out strongly opposing the WHA.So seemingly it is just not us unqualified over opinionated huntingnetter's who are unaware and ill informed.
The very cream of the crop hunting record keeping organizations are also unqualified to speak on this issue.(not)
The WHA is a terrible idea whose time will never come!!!
The very cream of the crop hunting record keeping organizations are also unqualified to speak on this issue.(not)The WHA is a terrible idea whose time will never come!!!
07-13-2006, 10:56 AM
#48
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,253
RE: WHA Question
ORIGINAL: kevin1
The reasons are numerous , but a big one is this:
In hunting there is no catch and release unless you're on a photo safari .
The chances of these animals being injured or even killed just so a bunch of chest thumpers can pocket a check is not only totally unethical to most hunters , but also violates the very core of the Fair Chase principle . It reduces a noble tradition to a common spectacle and uneccessarily risks the safety of the animal . Nearly all of us would beat the sheit out of a slob who wounded game and just let them go instead of tracking it down and ending it's suffering , these yahoos would cause suffering multiple times to the same animal on national television just for a check and the amusement of a few sadistically minded couch potatoes .
Windwalker7 , if you can't understand that then you might just as well join those slobs and sign up for the circus too . Don't let the door hit you in the ass if you do though .
The reasons are numerous , but a big one is this:
In hunting there is no catch and release unless you're on a photo safari .
The chances of these animals being injured or even killed just so a bunch of chest thumpers can pocket a check is not only totally unethical to most hunters , but also violates the very core of the Fair Chase principle . It reduces a noble tradition to a common spectacle and uneccessarily risks the safety of the animal . Nearly all of us would beat the sheit out of a slob who wounded game and just let them go instead of tracking it down and ending it's suffering , these yahoos would cause suffering multiple times to the same animal on national television just for a check and the amusement of a few sadistically minded couch potatoes .
Windwalker7 , if you can't understand that then you might just as well join those slobs and sign up for the circus too . Don't let the door hit you in the ass if you do though .
07-13-2006, 12:19 PM
#49
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: .. NH USA
Posts: 970
RE: WHA Question
The oppositionlist is pretty impressive, and growing:
80% averageof all Hunters and Sportsmen, in many polls.
And also:
Quality Deer Management Association
Pope and Young
Safari Club International
Boone and Crockett
North American Bowhunter Coalition
Untied States Sportsman's Alliance
National Field Archery Association
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Alberta Bowhunters Association
Montana Bowhunters Association
Millenium Tree Stands
Summit Tree Stands
Cabelas
Bass Pro Shops
Women's Hunters, Inc.
Martin Archery
Mathews Inc.
Merlin USA
Newberry Bows
Ross Archery
Eastman Outdoors
G5
Pneu-Dart
Xtreme Scents
Muzzy
Natural Gear
Pinwheel Products
Bowhunt America
Wild TV
Whitetail Fanatic Magazine
Outdoor Life Magazine
New York Post
Detroit Free Press
Archerytalk.com
And altho we haven't gotten official statements and thus cannot post them, we are assuming most of the other hunting websites are onboard too. If anyone has any further postings to add, please post them so we all know who istaking a stand. Thanks.I personallywill only buy from those who will stand against the WHA from now on too. Really, it is that important IMHO, and my businesses will only carry products from those who back the hunting community.
There are many news reports in oppositiontoo, in many newspapers all across the country:
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060625/GPG07/606250589/1233/GPGsports
http://www.altoonamirror.com/Sports/articles.asp?articleID=2726
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060622/COLUMNISTS09/606220306
http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20060621-121335-3440r.htm
http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060620/COLUMNISTS16/606200334/1003/
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060618/SPORTS08/606180369/1127
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/outdoors/20060617-9999-lz1s17weighin.html
http://www.columbian.com/sports/localNews/06152006news36146.cfm
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13529124/site/newsweek/
http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/062006/06152006/199218
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/14815229.htm
But it still isn't enough. Rather than continuing thebanter back and forth with the "plants" and otherpaid henchmen, the best thing to do is to approach more manufacturers and get them to join the majority who publicallyoppose this nonsense. Please e-mail any bow or accessory manufacturer that you do not see listed above, and ask fortheir OFFICIALposition on the issue. Both Polaris and Wal-Mart are sponsors of the WHAfrom what I understand,(unverified but supposedly)so we'll need to send e-mails to them and ask them their positionstoo.
80% averageof all Hunters and Sportsmen, in many polls.
And also:
Quality Deer Management Association
Pope and Young
Safari Club International
Boone and Crockett
North American Bowhunter Coalition
Untied States Sportsman's Alliance
National Field Archery Association
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Alberta Bowhunters Association
Montana Bowhunters Association
Millenium Tree Stands
Summit Tree Stands
Cabelas
Bass Pro Shops
Women's Hunters, Inc.
Martin Archery
Mathews Inc.
Merlin USA
Newberry Bows
Ross Archery
Eastman Outdoors
G5
Pneu-Dart
Xtreme Scents
Muzzy
Natural Gear
Pinwheel Products
Bowhunt America
Wild TV
Whitetail Fanatic Magazine
Outdoor Life Magazine
New York Post
Detroit Free Press
Archerytalk.com
And altho we haven't gotten official statements and thus cannot post them, we are assuming most of the other hunting websites are onboard too. If anyone has any further postings to add, please post them so we all know who istaking a stand. Thanks.I personallywill only buy from those who will stand against the WHA from now on too. Really, it is that important IMHO, and my businesses will only carry products from those who back the hunting community.
There are many news reports in oppositiontoo, in many newspapers all across the country:
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060625/GPG07/606250589/1233/GPGsports
http://www.altoonamirror.com/Sports/articles.asp?articleID=2726
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060622/COLUMNISTS09/606220306
http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20060621-121335-3440r.htm
http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060620/COLUMNISTS16/606200334/1003/
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060618/SPORTS08/606180369/1127
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/outdoors/20060617-9999-lz1s17weighin.html
http://www.columbian.com/sports/localNews/06152006news36146.cfm
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13529124/site/newsweek/
http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/062006/06152006/199218
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/14815229.htm
But it still isn't enough. Rather than continuing thebanter back and forth with the "plants" and otherpaid henchmen, the best thing to do is to approach more manufacturers and get them to join the majority who publicallyoppose this nonsense. Please e-mail any bow or accessory manufacturer that you do not see listed above, and ask fortheir OFFICIALposition on the issue. Both Polaris and Wal-Mart are sponsors of the WHAfrom what I understand,(unverified but supposedly)so we'll need to send e-mails to them and ask them their positionstoo.
07-13-2006, 12:38 PM
#50
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dover, PA USA
Posts: 5,497
RE: WHA Question
Kevin,
Although they haven't put an official statement as such ,I have had several discussions with the guys at Bowtech and they told me to feel free tostate publicly that they too have no intentions of supporting the WHA in any way up to and including sponsorships.
Feel free to add them to the list.
Although they haven't put an official statement as such ,I have had several discussions with the guys at Bowtech and they told me to feel free tostate publicly that they too have no intentions of supporting the WHA in any way up to and including sponsorships.
Feel free to add them to the list.