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Rick James 07-06-2006 07:51 PM

Rage Slip Cams...... (Updated 10/17 *Graphic Pics*)
 
So a rep stopped in the shop and dropped off a package of these. I like them. They do have a rubber o-ring on the back that keeps them closed when installed right. I feel the reason guys are having them open prematurely is because they aren't closing them correctly. The blades are beefy, and sharp enough to shave hair on my arm. We only got a package of the 2 blade ones, I would like to see the 3 blades. They come with a free practice head as well.

Anyone gotten a pack of these yet? For the guys that shot snypers, what kind of a target did you sight in with? I am thinking of picking these up at the shop as a line to sell for this year but want to hear more from people that have used them and if they like them or not. I haven't got to shoot them yet. If you guys don't like them who do you recommend us to pick up? We have muzzy, steelforce, rocket, slick trick soon, and the shuttle t-locks. What else should we get and why?

Beagle001 07-06-2006 08:21 PM

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ive seen em on Jay Gregory's site and they look deadly and were deadly on some turkeys

annika3 07-06-2006 08:58 PM

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Iv'e used them for turkeys, bear and pigs and have worked great. their website www.ragebroadheads.com has some of the bears that were shot with them this spring

Rick James 07-26-2006 06:31 AM

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We finally got our order of 2 and 3 blade heads in the shop today. I really really like these. I shot the 3 blade mulitiple times into a target and had no problems with them. They of course flew just like field points, but I was only able to get back to 15 yards to shoot them. The rumors of them prematurely opening must be because of user error and not using the blade retention sytem correctly, because I saw nothing of the sort. I really really like these heads a lot and will be using these as my primary head this year, with slick tricks as backup to shoot through blind mesh.



Matt / PA 07-26-2006 07:11 AM

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Matt,
Looking at your picture of the 3 blade......does that notch on the backside of the blades sit on the O-Ring? Is that what keeps them closed or do they have some internal system?
When they are shot open does the O-Ring flip down or do the blades simply "bounce" around it?

I do LOVE the idea of a rearward opening 1.5" broadhead.

Blade sharpness good?

Rick James 07-26-2006 07:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: Matt / PA

Matt,
Looking at your picture of the 3 blade......does that notch on the backside of the blades sit on the O-Ring? Is that what keeps them closed or do they have some internal system?
When they are shot open does the O-Ring flip down or do the blades simply "bounce" around it?

I do LOVE the idea of a rearward opening 1.5" broadhead.

Blade sharpness good?
Matt:

There is no internal friction type retention like spitfires, it is retained by the notch you see in the back and that band. I think the problems people are experiencing with these prematurely opening is because they aren't seating that 0 ring into the channel on the ferrule of the head properly and then making sure each blade is seated properly. It would be easy to do this wrong if someone isn't paying attention. I actually like this system better than say a friction type of retention system like the spitfires, because I believe friction types are less reliable, and use more energy to open than something like this. The blade system is almost identical to the G5 Tekan II's, I used these last year and my main hunting partner killed a nice doe with them and they worked beautifully and managed to sever the spine and sternum on the deer with a complete pass thru as well, not too shabby for a mechanical.

The 0 ring was staying in the channelupon impactwhen I was shooting it last night. I do think one would want to be careful to make sure that this 0 ring was in good condition before hunting if you have practice shots on it, I am sure it takes a beating if you put a couple dozen shots on it and probably should be replaced if you do shoot it a lot. I didn't see the snypers hands on that everyone raved about last year, I have heard they were scary sharp. These are pretty darn sharp though, sharp enough to shave the hair off my arm (I have a bald patch to prove it). The blades are real thick too.......about as thick or thicker than my slick trick blades.

The practice head doesn't open, however has the same exact profile as the closed real head......this is nice and I think should be something every top end broadhead should have as part of the package.



Rick James 09-26-2006 07:37 AM

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I just wanted to update this thread because I have really shot the heck out of these in the last week. I like these to the point that I think I am going to hunt out of the blinds this year without the mesh just so I can shoot these heads. These heads shoot great, and the entrance hole they are cutting in my target is nothing short of outstanding.......they are fully open on the entrance @ 2". Can't wait to shoot something with them, hopefullythis weekend.......

HuntinGUS 09-26-2006 07:47 AM

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I went to the web site and it appears that they are only offered in 100 gr. Do you know if they are offered at 125 gr.?

Rick James 09-26-2006 07:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: HuntinGUS

I went to the web site and it appears that they are only offered in 100 gr. Do you know if they are offered at 125 gr.?
They are not offered in 125.......

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-26-2006 08:34 AM

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RJ, I've shot 4 bucks with the 2 blade RM Snyper and yes, the entrance hole is outstanding, at least a full 2" cut and the exit hole is of course fantastic. I've had no trouble with them ever prematurely opening. When I practice with them, I shoot them into a broadhead target and keep them closed with tape. I like the dental floss idea but unlike the jack knife style heads, these rearward opening heads open every time, you can't hardly keep the shut, that's what's wonderful about them, flawless opening on impact rather than through impact.

I'd imagine the Rage is exactly like the Snypers. The only negative I've heard about the 3 blade Rage over the Snyper, at least my experience with the 2 blade is the 3 Blade Rage is noisy in flight. Are you experiencing that?

Great heads tho and I wouldn't have even tried them hadn't not been for 5 shot's reviews.

bjanakos 09-26-2006 08:41 AM

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A friend of mine picked up a set last week and fell in love with them. I have been looking locally and they keep getting sold out ever time they come in. My friends word is as good as gold to me.

He just got a new bow too and tuned them with field points. He put these Rages on and they shot perfectly. No need for further tuning.

Rick James 09-26-2006 09:26 AM

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Keep in mind you need to seat the blade properly on the retention ring on the bottom. Seat it there, then I spin the arrow in my hand pretty hard to make sure they won't pop out. If you don't do this you risk having it pop open in flight. I haven't had it happen, but I am careful to make sure they are seated perfect every time and I also use a quiver that doesn't bury the head in foam.

wilk 09-26-2006 10:21 AM

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switched to these (3)blade this year, cant wait to try them on a deer, ive practiced a lot with the practice head and they fly great, i shot the real thing at my broadhead target about 6 times now at 20, 30 , 40, 50 yds... I love them.. and they are tough....

stinkbelly 09-26-2006 10:39 AM

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I bought the three blade and my buddy bought the two blade. We both are complaining about the noise in flight compared to fixed blades. Other than that they are great. I am hitting a golf ball size target up to 40 yards with these and the field tips. They are very forgiving like a field tip. I plan on taking them out for the opener this Saturday. I will probably shoot a real one before than. Up to now I have shot the practice point about 100 times.

Rick James 10-16-2006 06:47 AM

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All I can say is wow at the performance of these heads.

APAJaws (Dan for those that have met him) managed to stick a nice fat littlebuck Saturday morning in the Albany County bowhunting only zone on some public land. The deer was liver shot due to turning when Dan released so he needed some time to expire. He was using the G5 Tekan II's. I was sitting roughly 80 yards away fromDan when this all went downand when hit the buck ran straight towards me and bedded down 43 yards in front of where I was sitting in some tall grass. After Jaws hiked down to me, he wanted me to to put another into the deer for him so I managed to put a second shot into the deer for Dan using the 2 blade 2" Rage's. The buck was bedded quartering away from me at a 45 degree angle at exactly 43 yards at the shot. The head smashed 2 ribs and completely passed through on a hard quartering shot and actually managed to hit the ground so hard on the opposing side of the deer that it drove the head into the ground and broke the shaft off...........at 43 yards. It left a 5" entrance hole...........that's right 5". Remember the deer was quartering which is what caused the huge hole,even stillthat was quite simply the most amazing entrance hole I have ever seen on a deer in my life. It made a 5" entrance right behind the shoulder in the closest side to me also putting a huge gash into the bone on the shoulder blade, and passed out the other side directly in front of the shoulder blade........not the softest of areas to be passing through. The exit hole was also over 2" wide. I also almost completely sliced the top of the heart offwhen the head passed through his chest cavity. I will supply pics later today of the damage when Dan gets them to me.

Again, I am in no way affiliated w/ Rage or any other broad head company, but I really think the penetration of these heads is outstanding for a 2" cutting diameter. Most traditional mechanicals that large diameters would not penetrate like this in my experience and I have shot them all. My only gripe is that the arrow drove the head so far into the ground that I was not able to recover the head to see how it held up.

Rick James 10-17-2006 12:30 PM

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Dan got the pictures today from his Dad, and unfortunately they didn't include the pics of the huge entrance hole in this deer. This is a pic of the heart though cropped down to eliminate a lot of the gut pile. You can see why this guy didn't go far after being hit with that head.........




Lefty26 10-17-2006 12:55 PM

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I am a die hard Snyper user, I love the entrance holes they leave and the fact they open on impact. My buddy got some Rage heads this year as was going on and on about them but I really didn't give them a good look. Well he calls me one night and he hit a deer but he wasn't sure of the shot, I told him to hang tight and I went out to give him a hand. Looking at the arrow he clearly gut shot the deer so we backed out. Long story short we came back in the morning and found the deer 80 yards from where it was hit. When I walked up and saw the hole that Rage head left I was shocked. It left close to a 4" entrance hole and very large exit hole. After examining the organs the head left tremendous damage the whole way through the deer.

Taking a closer look at the Rage they are the same basic design as the Snyper just a larger cutting diameter. I am very interested in getting my hands on some to give them a try, the problem as already noted is you can't find them anywhere. I checked the Rage website and they said they are back ordered until 12/01/06. They have them on Ebay but are fetching a high price. I think I will pick some up in the off season and try them next year.

KYHunting1 10-17-2006 01:32 PM

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Lefty, I just bought some from Bass Pro Shops last Friday 10/13. I was told they had quite a few in stock. The website still shows backorder so it may be worth a call.

1JDaddy 10-17-2006 01:34 PM

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Hello all, this is my 1st post on here so, hey!!!
Anyway, I've been shooting the Rocky Mtn. Snyper 100gr 2 blades for probably 5 years now and I LOVE them....They open huge holes and fly great. Anyway, one of my buddies bought a 3 pack of 100gr 2 blade RAGE's this year to try them out and he shot a doe a few weeks ago and said the holes were massive & the blood trail was huge even though she went about 100yards before dropping.
He asked me to pick him up some more and I've been to BassPro Shops in Clarksville,Indiana, Denver Colorado, and Charlotte N. Carolina and cant find them anywhere plus I checked Cabela's in K.C. on the way back from Colorado so I guess they are REALLY popular. I did pick him up some 2 blade Snyper's like I shoot so he's gonna give them a try, I told him he would like them since they are almost the exact same head as the Rage and I've never had problems with them...I shot a doe a few weeks ago here in KY with a Snyper at 38yards and she went about 12 yards before dropping. Huge holes & blood everywhere...Hopefully RAGE gets their production problems fixed cause I'd like to shoot them some and see how they stack up to my tried & true Snypers.

Rick James 10-17-2006 01:36 PM

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I think the snypers are a fantastic head, and probably have a better blade retention system than Rages, however the holes from the 1.5" and 2" rages are simply amazing and the lack of energy soaked up from opening them is fantastic. If you guys can't get the Rage's, then get the Snypers.

wilk 10-18-2006 10:42 AM

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i shot a doe last week with the 3 blade rage, and let me tell you WOW!!!
my friend couldnt believe the hole, it was a complete pass through and she expired about 15yds from where i shot her and the entrance and exit holes were amazing... I know im staying with these....

muzzyman88 10-18-2006 11:13 AM

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I'm having trouble figuring out how this company keeps from getting slapped with a lawsuit. With the exception of the 3 blade version, they're identical to the Rocky Mt. heads. They use a cut on impact tip for both the 2 and 3 blade versions. I personally found the 2 blade RM heads flimsey in comparison to their 3 blade, chisel style heads.

Can someone enlighten me to the big differences here?

Justin 10-18-2006 12:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: muzzyman88

I'm having trouble figuring out how this company keeps from getting slapped with a lawsuit.
;)

Rocky Mtn Broadheads
101 Main St
Superior, WI

Rage Broadheads
101 Main St
Superior, WI

Lefty26 10-18-2006 01:13 PM

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That's freak'n brilliant!!!! Nothing like creating a little healthy competition in the market place.

Those of you that shot Snypers probably noticed the price jumped a few bucks this year once the Rage hit the market. And a lot of people who can't find the Rage are "settling" for the Snyper, but it seems all the money is going to the same place. I was wondering how Rage pulled that off without a copyright infringement lawsuit, I guess that answers the question.

Rick James 10-18-2006 01:26 PM

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Keep in mind guys, they aren't the exact same head even though they are under the same ownership. Rages have larger cutting diameters (1.5" and 2") than snypers, and they have a different blade retention system. They are similar designs though and each has their own benefits. The Rage's leave a larger hole, the Snypers are easier to keep closed and lower maintenance because of that. I have had one of the Rage's open in my quiver now and had to close it with my fingers before shooting. I have not had one open in flight though because I make sure to keep the 0-ring fresh and I make sure they are closed before I shoot each one.

statjunk 10-18-2006 01:35 PM

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Has 5-Shot tested these?

Tom

Rick James 10-18-2006 01:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: statjunk

Has 5-Shot tested these?

Tom
He has but it is under the subscriber only section...

muzzyman88 10-18-2006 02:33 PM

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Rocky Mtn Broadheads
101 Main St
Superior, WI

Rage Broadheads
101 Main St
Superior, WI
Well that explains it....:D

moosehunter21 10-18-2006 03:07 PM

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Wow is all I have to say about the cut heart!

SuperRedHawk 10-18-2006 03:26 PM

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O.K. guys, a buddy of mine found some of these heads and killed his first deer with one. This was with the 2 blade Rage. This is the ENTRY hole!! Holy Smokes



Matt/TN 10-18-2006 03:34 PM

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wow [:-]

jmbuckhunter 10-18-2006 08:10 PM

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I shot my first Elk last year with a Sniper. It went 150 yards and pile up. Got both lungs and stuck in the oppisite shoulder blade, great penatration.

1JDaddy 10-22-2006 06:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: muzzyman88

I personally found the 2 blade RM heads flimsey in comparison to their 3 blade, chisel style heads.

Flimsey????? I've been shooting the 2 blade 100gr Snypers for years now and they have held up better than any other head I have ever shot...Not just mechanical heads but fix blades as well. I've been bowhunting well over 20 years and shot all the popular heads out there in that time span and the Snyper's have been tough as nails for me, I've killed 2 this year now with the same Snyper & the same arrow, all I did was replace the blades and kept shooting...I gotta slap some more blades in that one now and it'll be ready for deer#3 as soon as I do.

Rich Baker 10-23-2006 01:30 AM

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I like the simmons tree sharks better



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