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newtowha 07-01-2006 12:39 PM

High Fence considered cheating??
 
self explanatory. I think it can be in a way, especially if they gots a stock pile of deers there to shoot.

bullmoose38 07-01-2006 03:24 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
I dont think its cheating but I dont think its hunting either. Its in its own class. I went to fenced in areas for exotics. Its fun but I dont consider it hunting because you dont get that adrenaline rush like you do in the wild. JMHO

Arrowmaster 07-01-2006 03:30 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
I only hunt free ranging animals.

kevin1 07-01-2006 05:17 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
The kind they have in some areas where you're out in a range of hundreds or thousands of acres approximates fair chase enough for me to stay off their case , but the ones that have sprung up here , the largest of which was 1,100 acres with small killing pens of less than 10 acres are unacceptable . Size of the ranch is a determining factor , along withterrain and escape cover .

huntingson 07-01-2006 05:25 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
You can't lump all high fence hunts into one category. There are many nowadays that use fences for management reasons more than containment. There is a ranch out west that has over 20000 acres enclosed in a high fence. I have to think that it would make no real difference in that instance whether the fence were there or not. What the fence offers in that instance is the ability to control the genetics, disease, and predators on the property, thus making huge bulls and bucks possible. So, I guess my argument would be that it isn't the fence that is the problem, it is the lust for huge racks and forgetting about the true thrills of hunting. JMHO.

early in 07-01-2006 06:11 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
Hey fellows, don't play into it.;)

il coyote 07-01-2006 06:13 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 

What the fence offers in that instance is the ability to control the genetics, disease, and predators on the property, thus making huge bulls and bucks possible.
While the animals in this instance are most likelyvery much 'wild', the other factors that you've mentioned can still be manipulated. The deer still can't get out. By being able to control the deer on the inside, you've created an unfair advantage.

I've never hunted behind a high fence in my life, so these tens-of- thousands-of-acres ranches may be different, but I just can't get over the 'containment' issue.

ilovehunting 07-01-2006 06:15 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
Sssssssssssttttttttttuuuuuuuuuupppppppiiiiiiiidddd ddddddd. Just my thought.

huntinyoung 07-01-2006 07:23 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
Cheating? I think so. Kinda like shootin' fish in a barrel. Just my opinion. And if they shoot all the smaller deer they have nothing but big genes goin' around. Cheating. And if it's not illegal they could bring in deer that are already have "big" genes. That would be even worse.

Deerslayer_37 07-01-2006 10:03 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
i guess my only question is, if the ranch is that big, then why high fence it? if the deer never know the fence is there, why not just put a low 4 strand barbed wire fence up instead of an 8' fence??

JLmoore1956 07-01-2006 10:34 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
Let's just say I will never do it! [:'(]

Cougar Mag 07-01-2006 10:48 PM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
I'll just say its not for me and add one comment, there is absolutely nothing that can beat taking an animal that is free ranging, no matter what the size.

nodog 07-02-2006 06:50 AM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
I would like to read the rule book first. The true hunters bible if there is one that everyone would use and has some authority to it.:D

There are many hunters in the world and they all have their own idea's of what is and what is not true hunting. Some I have read about would condemn most if not all the forms of hunting in North America, bow hunters are a joke to them. It's a big world out there.:DBe careful before you decide on how to determine what is and what is not hunting, it could come back and be used to end your style. Personal freedom is the real issue and always should be top of the list.There's a lot more going on in a fenced area than somebody poking an animal. Local economies for one, are affected as well.

Personally I feel camera's are a kin to fences, cheating, but that's just me. Kind of like knowing what your going to get as a present. Love seeing the pic's, just don't want to know that much about the game is all. A string tied between trees high and low to give an indication of whether there's bucks or just doesgives great excitmentenough.

newtowha 07-02-2006 06:52 AM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
Not to reiterate, but reviewing the terrain and size of the pen would allow me to take a better stance onthis issue

Cougar Mag 07-02-2006 07:00 AM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
Some good comments nodog, but I'd like to add an opinion about a certain situation.

Just a few minutes ago on another site I was reading a discussion about the best place to go hunt exotics and buffalo in another state. One poster stated he knows of a place that guaranteed a buffalo and they would take you out and let you shoot one. Anyway you slice it........thats not hunting, its simply shooting. Now I am not condeming an individual who would do that within that scenario, its plain to see a person wants the meat and most likely the rug, head. But no way can that be called hunting.

Howler 07-02-2006 07:41 AM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 
Most animals in Africa are all with in high fences, but yet they are concidered "free ranging"! Some of those ranches are 50,000 acres plus!!
There have been studys done and it has been found that most hunters don't walk more than about 1 mile from thier vehicle, although most think they walk further than that. 1 mile. So, most guys cover about 640 acres, BUT yet they think a critter that is with in a fence that holds thousands of acres is cheating!!
Kind of like "if you don't use my type of equipment, I'm better than you"!! So if you huntwith-in a fence, no matter the acreage,my deer kill is better than yours!! You guys crack me up!!;)
Disclaimer, Ihave never hunted with-in a high fenceenclosure, BUT if I could afford to go to Africa, or if someone wanted to "donate" a hunt on a high fence ranch in TX., I would!!

Rob/PA Bowyer 07-02-2006 08:36 AM

RE: High Fence considered cheating??
 

ORIGINAL: kevin1

The kind they have in some areas where you're out in a range of hundreds or thousands of acres approximates fair chase enough for me to stay off their case , but the ones that have sprung up here , the largest of which was 1,100 acres with small killing pens of less than 10 acres are unacceptable . Size of the ranch is a determining factor , along withterrain and escape cover .


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