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gzg38b 06-23-2006 08:23 AM

Poachers !!!
 
I've just about had it with the idiot neighbors poaching the deer around my dad's property. Last bow season I watched them drive their four wheel drive truck through their fields shooting guns out the window. Then I watched them load two deer into the back of the truck after dark. These guys shoot deer all year long. My dad is reluctant to turn them in for fear of retaliation against his property. He just puts up with it. We work too hard all year long planting food plots, hanging stands, etc. to have it ruined by these idiots. Anybody else having a problem with poachers?

Sniper151 06-23-2006 08:29 AM

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Video their activities and pass it on to your local game protector.

BobCo19-65 06-23-2006 08:35 AM

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My dad is reluctant to turn them in for fear of retaliation against his property. He just puts up with it.
I know exactly what that feeling is like, but you find yourself living not for yourself or what you deserve. These individuals have no respect, and as suchshould begivenany satisfaction. The way I feel now is that I will do what I need to to protect myself, my property and what I have worked for. I'll deal with consequences of my actions as they happen, but not before.

PA Bow/Flinter 06-23-2006 08:36 AM

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If your dad won't call....why don't you? I'm assuming you know how to use a phone. Next time you see them load a couple deer in their truck, call it in. There is no way they will be able to remove all traces of deer by time the warden shows.

These guys are breaking the laws and need to be stopped. Period.

live2hunt009 06-23-2006 09:02 AM

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I gotta agree sumthin needs to be done. You and your dad have worked to hard on your property and you cant let a couple of idiots ruin it for you guys. I video tape them and get the lincense plate number and all that good stuff. good luck.

hardcorehunter 06-23-2006 09:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: Sniper151

Video their activities and pass it on to your local game protector.
You damn right. I won't put up that crap.
HCH[/align]

HuntingEd 06-23-2006 09:27 AM

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We have people poach on us frequently.. I found bloody fletchings near my favorite stand!!!, we found two stands on our property and they stole my game camera!. Its amazing we havnt caught anyone, since we hunt the property freqently and it is only 200 yrds from the houses! The problem is our property is borded by railroad tracks and on the other side of them is a trailer park... Thankfully a gamewarden recently married into the family.. this year we will catch them...are going to persecute to the full extent of the law...

MOTOWNHONKEY 06-23-2006 09:53 AM

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I can understand your dads reluctance. Sometimes it is easier to look away than to take the problem face on. These days you never know what kind of people you are dealing with. I say be ready for them poaching bastards this year, get vedio, the game warden, and your local police involved. Most law breakers hate going to jail and will move on to a new area with their crime. If by chance these are the type that will retaliate and try and make your life hell, than count me in on the ass whipping party. I mean what I say and I'm sure there are atleast a dozen other men here who will meet there at our own expense. Tell your dad that.

Rob/PA Bowyer 06-23-2006 10:25 AM

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I would believe that most states will allow you to remain anonymous as well. Most poachers cave when pressured by the wardens and no court appearance needed. You just need good proof. Good luck.

ccm352 06-23-2006 11:42 AM

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I view poaching in two ways.. The kind that is being discussed here is the worst kind and they should be dealt with accordingly. I think you should definitely call your local game officials.. If you need help with retaliation problems.. I will be more than happy to drive out and bounce a few a-holes like that.

According to state law any deer shot out of season is considered poached as well. In bloomsburg where I used to hunt on a regular basis one guy was prosecuted for poaching because he shot 2 deer out of season so he could feed his family. I dont think the guy should have been fined as much as he was.

gzg38b 06-23-2006 11:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: .308hunter

If your dad won't call....why don't you? I'm assuming you know how to use a phone. Next time you see them load a couple deer in their truck, call it in. There is no way they will be able to remove all traces of deer by time the warden shows.

These guys are breaking the laws and need to be stopped. Period.
My dad bought the place two years ago. These people are neighbors who own 80 acres behind us. They've lived there for over 20 years. Real savages. They've been violating for years. I've had the phone in my hand several times and my dad asked me to hang it up because he doesn't want any trouble being the new guy on the block. I'm just respecting his wishes since he owns the place. If it were my property I'd have already reported them. I think this year if it continues he'll finally turn them in. The good news is their place is up for sale. I hope it sells before bow season! If I had the money I'd buy it myself.

nodog 06-23-2006 12:16 PM

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Hold on there Motown. He's an engineer for GM.

I'm for hire.:D

NCOutdoors 06-23-2006 12:27 PM

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gzg38b:

I feel your pain. My partners and I have poachers on our property as well. We have just a big a problem with kids 4-wheeling on the property. I've had them run practically right under my stand before.

First thing you need to do is to be sure the property is POSTED. In some states like NC the state requires an owner to POST a property if he expects the law to get involved.

Have you tried call them yet?

MOTOWNHONKEY 06-23-2006 12:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: nodog

Hold on there Motown. He's an engineer for GM.

I'm for hire.:D



Oh excuse me I meant for a nominal fee me and the HNI brotherhood could deligate some severe brusing. Pardon my bonner!:D

PA Bow/Flinter 06-23-2006 01:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: gzg38b


ORIGINAL: .308hunter

If your dad won't call....why don't you? I'm assuming you know how to use a phone. Next time you see them load a couple deer in their truck, call it in. There is no way they will be able to remove all traces of deer by time the warden shows.

These guys are breaking the laws and need to be stopped. Period.
My dad bought the place two years ago. These people are neighbors who own 80 acres behind us. They've lived there for over 20 years. Real savages. They've been violating for years. I've had the phone in my hand several times and my dad asked me to hang it up because he doesn't want any trouble being the new guy on the block. I'm just respecting his wishes since he owns the place. If it were my property I'd have already reported them. I think this year if it continues he'll finally turn them in. The good news is their place is up for sale. I hope it sells before bow season! If I had the money I'd buy it myself.
Well, I can't blame you for respecting your father's wishes. I personally would call no matter what because I wouldn't stand for poachers even ifmy fathertold me not to call. But whether you call or not is your own decision, I can't help you there.

BobCo19-65 06-23-2006 01:15 PM

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You did the right thing by respecting your father's wishes. Don't go against him. But try to convince him differently. ;)

wayomic 06-23-2006 01:41 PM

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Yeah, don't put up with that garbage. Call and report their a__es!


triggerhappy 06-23-2006 03:07 PM

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I hate poachers they are the scurge that labels us in the same light as them to the non-hunting public. Respect your dad, but call a friend and have them report it. It hurts us all!


I chased this.......what had been a 200+ huge non-typ for two years only to have him shot from the road at night during archery season with a rifle by an scum of the earth poacher. Hang em high I say.

tsoc 06-23-2006 04:14 PM

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Have you spoken with your local game warden?A conversation would be in order,maybe they are closing in on these poachers.Maybe you could help them set up a sting.You are not required to provide your name when calling the poaching hotlines.
I do agree that you should follow your dads wishes though.Your relationship with him is more important than your disdain for the poachers.Hopefully with the property for sale with a little patience they will no longer be an issue.Hopefully they move very far away!
I hate poachers,they steal from all of us who go about it the right way!Most game departments are under funded.Our local game warden is a client of mine and he has told me straight out that he cannot get over time to do an after hours sting.They are spread way to thin and can't get over time to be in the field when they need to the most.
How can you be effective under those circumstances?

moosehunter21 06-23-2006 06:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

I can understand your dads reluctance. Sometimes it is easier to look away than to take the problem face on. These days you never know what kind of people you are dealing with. I say be ready for them poaching bastards this year, get vedio, the game warden, and your local police involved. Most law breakers hate going to jail and will move on to a new area with their crime. If by chance these are the type that will retaliate and try and make your life hell, than count me in on the ass whipping party. I mean what I say and I'm sure there are atleast a dozen other men here who will meet there at our own expense. Tell your dad that.
Ditto.

Matt/TN 06-23-2006 06:17 PM

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we have that problem at one of our farms but we dont know who does it so there is a big field in front of the road and the deer come out in it after dark and they shoot them from the road it sucks especially because we dont know who does it and to beat it all they just leave them laying, last year it was a doe and a fawn

stuckinthereeds 06-24-2006 07:20 AM

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I know Montana has "1800 tip mont" to report illegal acitivity. The caller can remain completley anonymous in reporting poachers etc. You or your Dad might want to look into seeing if your state has that.

Lx lungbuster7 06-25-2006 10:33 AM

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i hate poaching, people who poach show that they have no respect for the land owners or mother nature itself it sickens me.

Matt/TN 06-25-2006 10:58 AM

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i hate em'

sandilands 06-25-2006 11:08 AM

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I feel your pain. I hunt public land and during the early archery season while I was camping in the wilderness, I would hear rifle shotsstarting at 10pm and ending off at 1am. I have never seen anybody just heard them. At least 10-15 shots a night and I could tell that most were connecting. It was nice during the day I wouldn't see another soul and thought that my chances were good to see some decent bucks b4 the gun hunters shot up the woods....... sadly mistaken. Some people are allowed to hunt all year round and b/c they have the right they take every chance. But even for these people they aren't allowed to discharge a firearm at night.
No cell phone service in the pine forrest where I hunt and about 20min drive to get toa spot where I could get service[>:]. I hate poachers! The conservation officers have taken to digging pits in the natural pastures that are connected to the roads,trust me I've dropped my truck in one while retrieving a deer years ago but it stops thespotlighters from going too far in the bush.They have also taken down bridges so that poachers had less routes out of the woods...... the bridge used to go over the brokenhead river and now people just drive through it. I'm sure demolishing the bridge was well thought out[&o], more pollution for the river and it hasn't stopped anybody from crossing

gobbleblaster 06-25-2006 03:11 PM

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if you dont want to turn them in have a buddy or someone call and give an anonomous tip, mabey the game commission or whatever it is in your state can catch them in the act. Visual evidence would really help, and chances are if they poaching deer their probably doing other illegal stuff so if you get proof it would help. dont let them push you around its your land not theirs if you show your serious they should leave you alone

turtleshell 06-26-2006 08:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: ccm352

I view poaching in two ways.. The kind that is being discussed here is the worst kind and they should be dealt with accordingly. I think you should definitely call your local game officials.. If you need help with retaliation problems.. I will be more than happy to drive out and bounce a few a-holes like that.

According to state law any deer shot out of season is considered poached as well. In bloomsburg where I used to hunt on a regular basis one guy was prosecuted for poaching because he shot 2 deer out of season so he could feed his family. I dont think the guy should have been fined as much as he was.
That's the lamest excuse I've ever heard for shooting a deer out of season. He's too broke to buy food, but he has the money to own a high powered rifle and the ammo?!? Why not just sell the damn gun if you're that broke. That was probably just him trying to tug at someone's heart strings to get some sympathy. Poaching is poaching...I would not be afraid of those guys and if it were my property this was happening on I'd put a stop to it immediately

hatchet jack 06-26-2006 02:28 PM

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Turn the PIGS in. A man like Walles lives by the feud. Bring it on!!!

one with the curve 06-26-2006 03:06 PM

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I cant stand those scum they have no respects for nothing i say somebody gimme me a call and i join in on the whuppin party. and i'll whoop again for leaving a waxy yella build up.

Budriser 06-26-2006 03:12 PM

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Poachers suck! I say give-em the shaft! Gold Tip, Easton, Beman, any one of them will do.

Arrowmaster 06-26-2006 06:09 PM

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Here in Indiana we have TIP turn in poachers. They would never know who called them its annonoymus. Turn them in...

ampahunter 06-27-2006 06:10 AM

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In my books, Poachers are the scum of the earth. It is troubling knowing the type of people we share this world with. I spend the time, money and effort planting food plots, scouting, opening trails--don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining as I do enjoy this part of it also--but it pains when these worthless beings show up and do as they like.
I can understand your Dad fears of starting a fire with his neighbors--I'm in the same boat--worse yet, I don't live on my farm--so my cabin, tool shed, etc are all left alone at one time or another.
I've just invested in a Cuddeback Noflash, my plan is the get those suckers on film so at least I have an idea who they are.

nebraskabuckhunter 06-27-2006 11:38 AM

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i beleive that you folks need to do something about these guys and if you dont then it is possible that it could get worse and worse. And yes there are two kinds of poachers the ones who shoot out of season just to kill and the ones who need the meat to feed their family.


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