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kansaswiderack 05-12-2006 05:26 AM

mechanical broadheads
 
I have been fighting w/ mygroups w/ fixed blade broadheads and I am considering mechanical broadheads. This is something I swore I would never do as I had heard all the stories. My pro shop owner says it all he uses and I talked w/ another person at a different archery shop who insisted that if you take ethical shots they work perfect-he was using spitfires. I have shot the spitfire turkey broadheads w/ good results out of my bow. Any thoughts from people w/ personal experience would be appreciated. Also, what about practice w/ the mechanicals and maintaining shop blades?

BBkiller 05-12-2006 06:16 AM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
I have used Spitfies and NEVER had any problems putting down deer. I'm sure yourshooting with theappropriate poundage on your bow for mechanicals. The only thing that sucks about spitfires is practicing. They will break if you shoot them a lot and the practicebroadheadtips don't fly like theactualmechanicals

hardcorehunter 05-12-2006 06:19 AM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
I have shot several deer with spitfires. They perform well.

Matt / PA 05-12-2006 06:56 AM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
A couple suggestions.......

1. Keep trying to figure out your current bow tune. It could be an arrow spine issue, rest tune, or a variety of other things that can also affect the on game performance of mechanical heads. (Knowledge is power)

2. Familiarize yourself with the different styles and their strengths and weaknesses, as well as which ones will compliment your set-up and it's performance and the game you are hunting. They aren't one size fits all and there will definitely be choices that are better than others.

3. When in doubt, err on the conservative side in cutting diameter and rearward opening blade styles.

4. Consider one of the many new short body, highly aerodynamic fixed blade heads on the market, such as the Slick Tricks, Shuttle T Locks, Rocky Mt. Turbo, NAP Nitron, etc.
I have found them to be highly forgiving and if they shoot as well as a comparable sized mechanical head then you gain no advantage by shooting a mech.

I personally only shoot mechanicals when they give me something a fixed head cannot, such as a very large cutting diameter to use out of a high energy bow. Never use them as a band-aid to not knowing why your fixed heads aren't flying true.

Howler 05-12-2006 06:57 AM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
I perfectly placed mech. is better than a poorly placed fixed head. BUT it seems that if you can't get fixed to fly straight and group well, than there is an under-lying problem with either form of bow set-up! Mech. heads shouldn't be used as a band-aid to fix the problem!

Mike Hill 05-12-2006 07:16 AM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
I have used spitfires for years with out a glitch their testimony is proven through the many photo post I have put up in the past couple of years. But understand I woulden't know how they perform on poorly placed shots as I only take only percent shots (brodside or quartering away) and I keep all my shots under 30 yards if I want to shoot 40,50,60 yards I get a shotgun to me thats what bow hunting is all about but to each their own. I say go for it as stated earlier you get a bigger cutting diamater and if you keep your shots at a reasonable didtance you get a pass through 2 big holes=quick bleed out.

annika3 05-12-2006 09:13 AM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
Look at the new Rage broadheads. They open from the rear so you have no deflection and they come with a full practice head so you don't have to shoot 1 of your hunting heads. Go to www.ragebroadheads.com

davidmil 05-12-2006 10:13 AM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
Kansaswide.... you didn't give us enough information about your set up and arrows. What kind of weight and arrow are you shooting. Quite often the arrow is the problem. If you're set up is marginal the mechanical may not be for you. The fact that you can't get the broadhead to fly means something is not in tune or is the wrong choice of equipment..whether it's arrows, broadheads or whatever. We really need more info, such as what type of problem are you having? Sorry I can't give you an opinion without more info. A mechanical is NOT a cure for something else being wrong.

Germ 05-12-2006 10:27 AM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 

A mechanical is NOT a cure for something else being wrong.

One of the best statements ever made on Hunting.net I have read!!!!

kansaswiderack 05-12-2006 12:07 PM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
my setup is matthews ovation @ 65# & 31.5" 300cx w/125 field points. I have been shooting 125 thunderheads & I started trying 100 muzzies this week thinking maybe the shaft might be a little light for the 125s. I see little to no difference in the 125s & 100s @ 20yds which is what i am working on for the spring bear hunt I will be on. My impact point w/fieldpoints is dead on. With the broadheads it is about 3" right & a little low. I could adjust sights to compensate, but it just seems to me like you should be able to set on dead on for both field points & broadheads. I always have in the past.


WKP Todd 05-12-2006 12:46 PM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
Mechanicals work great if they are flying out of a tuned bow. IMHO, it's all about putting in the boiler room. Since starting to use mechanicals, I haven't lost a deer, and spend more time shooting versus tuning. I shoot field points all season. Shoot my Jakhammers a few times at a few distances, and go hunting!

Germ 05-12-2006 01:00 PM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 

31.5" 300cx w/125
Your arrow is under spined. The chart for your arrow is 31'' 65 pounds 300CX, 32'' nextlength is 400CX. I always go a little stiffer. I think you have couple choices. At 31.5 you are stuck right in the middle.

1.Buy 400CX
2.Go to 100 grain broadheads and fieldpoints
3.Shoota shorter arrow

davidmil 05-12-2006 02:06 PM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
That's my thought too ghemry, but he states the group great, just right. Usually an underspine you'll loose the group with a fixed head. Are you left handed by any chance?

Germ 05-12-2006 02:35 PM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
I am LH, but I do not think he is underspined that much. I bet if he went to 100 grain headshe would befine.

davidmil 05-12-2006 03:56 PM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
ghemry.... I didn't mean are you left handed.... I meant Kansas.LOL We're trying to solve his problem, not yours.[8D] I agree with the underspined. Even if you go to their site and use their calculator and figure fast flight string etc etc it says so.

Germ 05-12-2006 05:04 PM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
I know, I was just letting you know, I have no problems!!!!! LOL

PABuck_HNTR 05-13-2006 05:40 AM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
NAP Spitfires work for me as well

kansaswiderack 05-15-2006 05:48 AM

RE: mechanical broadheads
 
First let me clarify, my draw length is 31.5, I am shooting an overdraw w/ 29.5 arrows. Over the weekend I had 6 arrows refletched w/ feathers. That took care of all of my hits to the right-makes me think there might be a little clearance problem, but I can't seem to find it. The broadheads I am currently working w/ are thunderhead 125s & muzzy 100s. At 20 yds, it seems the muzzies are slightly more consistent, but not much difference at all. Right now I would be very comfortable w/ either broadhead, but I will continue to tinker @ this range until after my bear hunt in 2 weeks. After that I will move back to 30 & 40 yards to see if they continue to fly as well down range. Thanks for the input & don't stop replying if anyone has any ideas on fine tuning my setup.


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