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saltflat 05-05-2006 10:45 AM

I need a drop away
 
Okay mt choice is a muzzy zero effect, nap quick tune, or trophy taker. Which of these have you guys had the best expirience with.

MOTOWNHONKEY 05-05-2006 11:13 AM

RE: I need a drop away
 
nap, mine works great.

Matt / PA 05-05-2006 11:40 AM

RE: I need a drop away
 
Of those 3 (especially if it's a hunting rest) absolutely the Muzzy Zero Effect.

huntingdiva1 05-05-2006 12:09 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
Trohpy taker is my favorite. Works and holds up well in many different weather conditions.

Paul L Mohr 05-05-2006 12:24 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
Out of all the drop a ways I have tried I like the muzzy the best. May I ask why you NEED a drop a way?

What do you believe it will do that other rests will not?

Paul

CAMPFOURCORNERS 05-05-2006 12:58 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
My NAP drop away on my Legacy works great i had the muzzy i didnt like it. So i would go with NAP

Justin 05-05-2006 01:22 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
I just got my hands on a new NAP SmartRest and so far I love it. Simple setup, micro adjust, quiet, and works great. I really like the adjustable drop rate as well. I have limited to no experience with other brands so take my opinion for what its worth. :D

saltflat 05-05-2006 01:22 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
Well I have always heard it will improve your accuracy. Will it not? I have also heard alot of good things about drop aways. I guess what it boils down to is I would just like to try one I guess.

mobow 05-05-2006 01:27 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
Trophy Ridge Drop Zone. The best there is. Simple, quiet, and very durable. Straight up, straight down.

SPIKEHORN11 05-05-2006 01:52 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
QAD Ultra Rest

Proff 05-05-2006 02:30 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
You will not be sorry if you go with the Muzzy!! Been shooting one for about 7 years now, on 3 different bows.

4wheeldrive 05-05-2006 02:34 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
just put a qad ultra rest on my bow works great

dynatec 05-05-2006 02:39 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
another vote for muzzy[8D]

hardcorehunter 05-05-2006 02:42 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
Trophy Taker

Greg / MO 05-05-2006 03:16 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
This is funny! Kinda like asking in the off-season forum, Should I buy a Ford, Dodge or Chevy?

Not saying it's a bad question, but all you're really gonna get here is probably what someone currently has on their bow.

I'm not discounting anyone's answers, because maybe I'm wrong about this, but at least Justin told you he's only had experience with the one rest he mentioned. Matt probably HAS played with all three rests you wanted info on, but I bet there's a lot of people JUST naming the rest they use out of "brand loyalty"...

Again, maybe I'm wrong. If so, what we need to know is... Why? Why is one particular model better than another? What were the idiosyncracies or quirks that you did/didn't appreciate about a particular model? Why did or didn't it fit you well?

Sorry, maybe I graded too many college composition papers from my incoming freshmen... But THAT'S what's going to make a valid response...

Paul L Mohr 05-05-2006 09:26 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
I haven't tried every brand of rest, but I have tried every style, and converted a few before the NAP drop a aways came out. I currently use a muzzy zero effect and a drop zone. The drop zone is about to get replaced with a simple prong rest.

Will they make your rest more accurate? Most likely not. Depending on the rest you use it may make it harder to shoot. Some of the drop a ways use a slight overdraw in order to clear the shelf when they drop. Like the muzzy and drop zone. Any time you move the pivot point of your arrow away from your grip it can make your bow less forgiving. Accuracy is a subjective thing though, it really depends on how good your form is. Truth be known you could shoot off the shelf if you used feathers and be accurate if you could shoot well enough.

What they will help with is fletching clearance. If you have skinny arrows and want to shoot large fletchings with a helical or lots of offset they work very well.

My honest opinion is if you are going to spend 100 bucks on a drop just because you heard it will make you shoot better save your money. It may make you shoot better for a week or so, because it could boost your confidence or something. Then again it could make you shoot worse because you changed your set up. Take it from someone that likes to tinker and change things, it DOES NOT help your shooting any;). Consistancy is what makes a good archer.

Or better yet take the money you were going to spend on a drop a way and get better arrows or a few lessons. Those may actually help you shoot better.

It might sound as if I am anti drop a way, but I'm not really. I actually like my muzzy, and the drop zone is not bad either. Both are overdraw rests though. The trophy taker style rest are not. Hower when you consider the price of the muzzy and drop zone I would rather have a good prong rest like the higher end GFK's. If you want one to just play with go a head and get one if you can afford it and like to tinker. That is why I got them. I certainly didn't need to try all the rests I have over the course of 6 or 7 years.

And remember these are only my opinions, nothing more.

Paul

davidmil 05-06-2006 11:07 AM

RE: I need a drop away
 
I've had a Muzzy for 5 years. It is absolutely the greatest thing since sliced bread and all those naughty things you can think of. I have it on a Darton Maverick. Wouldn't change for anything.

That said, I understand that they have had more problems tuning and setting them up with all these parrallel limb bows. They've had to come up with new pieces to fit a lot of differently made bows. Before you absolutely decide that's it, I'd pick the brain of someone who has it or has installed a lot of them with success. The parallel limb design has given us a lot of neat things, but in the process has added some problems to work out. As they come up, Muzzy is correcting them. I'll always have one. If my current one fails I'll buy another.

Pass_Thru 05-06-2006 01:36 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
Well I have a QAD right now that I just put onand bought it because of the total capture feature. I had a Trap Door and really liked it but it started to fail by slowing down considerably over the past 3 years by slowing down as far as how fast it drops out of the way. It just started to show wear on my feathers which tells me it was starting to slow down. Other than that I had no problems with it for the first 2 1/2 years. SoI switched to the QAD Ultra Rest. Id say the one thing I didnt like about the TD was the fact it wasnt captured on the rest while in cocked position. But that wasnt a major issue. Hope this helps.

Jay

ropedawg 05-06-2006 02:37 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
nap ? pretty good stuff!!!

mobow 05-06-2006 08:10 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
Greg, your response was well thought out, gramatically correct, and you even pointed out some important peoples responses. Funny....I didn't see anything about your opinion on which one is good and why it is good......Even though you called us out to do just that. ;):D

I've had experience w/ the Muzzy, and we simply could not get it to work. Major tuning issues. I also don't like the Trophy Taker or similar styles as I don't want the prongs landing on the shelf of my beloved UltraTec. Yeah, I know you can put moleskin on there, but nah...not me. Another problem w/ the Trophy Taker is IMO it didn't fall fast enough. We still get vanes hitting the prongs. I still say straight up and straight down is the way to go. The one thing about the Muzzy rest I really like......It has a big "scoop" for the arrow. Not much worry of it not grabbing the arrow properly.

I also agree that installing a drop away will not instantly make you a better shooter. But, w/ the decreased drag comes improved speed, and there are most certainly no clearance issues if intalled properly and the rest is capable of getting out of the way in time. Ishot a "TM Hunter" style rest for years and finally just got tired of the prongs being filed down by the arrow sliding across it. All of a sudden you draw back and the arrow falls between the prongs. That, and the shrink wrap wears off quickly and the arrow makes plenty of noise dragging across the metal prongs. In all fairness, and to Greg's point, those are really the only ones I've messed with. A few friends of mine have WB's, and I have to admit, they are pretty nice especially for stalking. But I like my Drop Zone and have no intention of changing it anytime soon.

Greg / MO 05-06-2006 10:24 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 

I didn't see anything about your opinion on which one is good and why it is good
Mobow, I didn't offer up any opinion/advice simply because the only fallaways I've ever had any personal experience with was/is a Mathews HD convertible and the APA Twister Safari. And I certainly wasn't trying to be "mean" or ornery; I don't know, the thought just hit me when starting to read the responses that it really didn't sound like anyone (or at least too many people) really had any experiences with anything other than what they were naming. Of course, that's a pretty limited perspective when someone's really trying to gather useful information.

saltflat 05-06-2006 10:44 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
Thanks guys for the help. I think I will hold off for a while on a drop away till I do a little more research on them. I want to buy one new toy for my bow this year and it was either a drop away or a new sight. I think I am leaning more towards the sight. What do yall think?

Greg / MO 05-06-2006 11:02 PM

RE: I need a drop away
 
What kind of sight are you looking to replace? Just curious...

mobow 05-07-2006 08:06 AM

RE: I need a drop away
 
Salt, if you want good sights for a reasonable price, check out the Cobra line. The Sidewinder series is just phenominal and the new King Cobra single pin and King Cobra 3 multiple pin are awesome as well. They are ultra bright, very rugged and durable, and easy to adjust.

Vital Bow Gear is another that makes some awesome gear. I have the Star Track and couldn't be happier. But if you don't want a single pin slider, check out the Triangle. Again, very bright and well built. The downside to VBG is the price tag. They are a tad pricey, but are incredibly good sights.

First of course, you must decide what type of sight you want. Single pin, multiple pin, wrapped fibre, pendulum, you get the idea. Once you have that part narrowed down you can begin checking out different sights in your price range.

sniper65 05-07-2006 10:03 AM

RE: I need a drop away
 
try ebay


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