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Rhody Hunter 04-22-2006 05:13 AM

hunting tip
 
the other day i was talking to this guy and he said that he has had good luck using the pee from a deer he previously harvested. he would collect it and use it instead of the expensive scents on the market. Since it is free i thought i might give it a try. I haven't heard of anyone doing this. Does anyone here do this and does anyone have other hunting tips?

PA Bow/Flinter 04-22-2006 09:09 AM

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I'm pretty sure it won't work too well because within a couple of hours urine turns into ammonia from contact with the outside world (ie. oxygen I think). At least thats what I've heard.

Oneshot7 04-22-2006 11:30 AM

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the tarsal glands will work but after a day it will turn into ammonia so you have to use them wuick before they go bad and if they go bad deer wont go around them for a while

MOTOWNHONKEY 04-22-2006 12:35 PM

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I do. When I gut the deer I remove the bladder and pout the pea in a bottle. Just a little honkey trick, don't tell anyone.

nodog 04-22-2006 02:35 PM

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I do and keep what ever in the freezer until needed, not sure it's all that affective. I have tried scents and prefer to just be scent free as possible while setting up on travel routes. I just let them think it's just another beautiful day in the neighbor hood and then introduce them to my little friend, zippy!:D

I just try to keep things as natural as possible.

Rhody Hunter 04-23-2006 11:36 AM

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does freezing it affect it ? I don't freeze store bought pee. The guy i talked to thought that it worked better letting it age .
I'm not sure if this is a good idea or bad

nodog 04-23-2006 05:01 PM

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I've seen it change after being thawed. It comes out as it goes in and after a while turns to what is sold in the stores is all I can say. I save what ever I think atracts other deer (and warn the wife :)). Shot a doe once while hunting with a new hunter. As I was dressing it I told the young man to go and keep watch, a buck may come. He did and less than 15 min. later got a shot at a very nice buck. It can work but this deer was on her normal path (natural).

Rob/PA Bowyer 04-23-2006 08:27 PM

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Not a fan of scents....it's too easy to misuse them and spook them. As scentless as possible and rely on my calls.

Smokey in PHX 04-23-2006 11:12 PM

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I also know a guy that uses the tarsal glands. He freezes them in plastic bags till he is ready for them. I just don't use scents but do use calls. Found them particularly effective in PA and IL.

fshafly2 04-24-2006 02:30 AM

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I don't bother with the pee. However, I will harvest and freeze buck and doe tarsal glands. I go to the butcher shop during our late Oct muzzleloader season and will harvest the tarsals (with permission) from the deer stacked in thetractortrailor cooler. If I take a doe that isin/near estrous, Iwill also harvest her uterus - the major reproductive organ that gives rise to the fallopian tubes. I handle everything with plastic gloves and generally only use them when I am using a decoy(s). The "natural" odor helps (?)the deer linger longer aroundmy decoy(s);deer havebedded down right next to the decoys - hard to argue withthe trouble to harvest and freeze them.
-fsh

Talondale 04-24-2006 07:08 AM

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I've saved the urine before, and have a buddy who does both. More and more I'm starting to agree with the "nothing is better" crowd. As more hunters use scents, calls, and tree stands, deer become conditioned to associate those things with hunting pressure and you could end up scaring off a buck than attracting it.

davidmil 04-24-2006 07:42 AM

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I've tried everything at one time or another. Used to collect pee bags etc for one time use on the next hunt. Never really had any earth shattering responses. In fact, I don't recall ever getting a deer using one. I now just use soap, waterand the wind.

Rhody Hunter 04-24-2006 05:47 PM

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thanks for the advice guys. i to don't usually use scents but i thought I'd give it a try and see i didn't think it would hurt
but now I'm starting to second guess my self. I'll probably try it and see once or twice.
I've had better luck with bleat calls then grunts

2footroper 04-24-2006 07:09 PM

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Good unscented soap, shampoo & a grunt call. Shower every time before you go out. Keep your hunting clothes in a scent free bag. Watch the wind, but if you don't smell like anything, they won't smell you. This has worked for me for years. I have tried scents but had absolutely no luck with them. All they seemed to do is spook deer.


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