HOYT might be losing...........
 

That is a customer. I bought a new VTECH in february and shot it about 8 times and last night I was waxing the string and I see that the cameo on the riser and some cameo on the limb are starting to flake off. I took it back to scheels (thats where I bought it from) today and told and showed them the bow. They called hoyt and they told scheels to send them the bow back to the to get redipped in cameo and told us that it will take at least 3 weeks to get it back to me.

I told scheels that if hoyt is just going to redip it in cameo them they can just keep the bow and give me my money back and I will buy a new bow. I think this is a bunch of shi#.

What I want to know is what would you do if you are in my shoes? What I want is a new VTECH or my money back. Also what to you think scheels shoud do to make it right?

Thank you for your input..

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Actually, the film dipping is not even covered by the warrunty, so consider yourself lucky they are willing to fix it. The camo has no effect at all on the shootability. The reason for the backup is the amount of 2006 orders to fill.

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I agree with Josh.

You should consider yourself lucky that the company is willing to do that for you. Camo paint has nothing to do with the bow's performance, and considering archery season is still months away, you've got plenty of time.

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birdbustin, just sell it and buy a MATHEWS!!!!!!!!!

Just kidding, well kind of,,,,,,,,;)joking aside I feel that the camo coating should be included in the warranty and that it should be redipedand not replaced with brand new. birdbustin, not saying you don't have a right to be mad, after all most archers would be.But I too don't feel your bow needs replacing. I don't feel that you are being treated unfair by any means by either Hoyt or sheels. If you are so unhappy then afteritgets sent backto you, the bowwill look like new and you should be able to sell it for top dollar. Be honest and let people know you shoot the bow but tell them its looks and shoots like new. Heck maybe scheels will offer a good trade in if you are so set on a new one.

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I wouldn't be happy and didn't know the finish is not covered. I wouldn't feel lucky if they fixed it either, better be covered. Guys buy bows for a lot of reasons and an important one is looks. We pay well for it and should get it with out having to beg for it. It's already costing you in time and grief. ( Had a problem with a Knight ML. They had UPS pick it up at my house, all I had to do was box it, That's service! )Scheels should take responsibility and give you a replacement on the spot and take care of it themselves, not forever, but at least for a 3 month period from date of purchuseIMO, fat chance, not your problem (Walmart would. Hmmmm :D From what I know of Cabela's they will for a year). You payedgood money for something, good money,and you didn't get it, no ones fault, just happened. What happens from here out is different and sounds as if there maybe some fault to be found.

Make it clear how you feel and what you expect in a calm but firm manner and see how it plays out. Give people time and the chance to mull it over. Hope it works out for all our sakes. Could be me next time.

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Sux that happened to you. Ive owned lots of Hoyts and never had one problem as well as dozens of people I know,I dont know of any issues except for the ones Ive read about on the net. Buy yourself a Mathews or a Bowtech, their bows never have manufacturing problems or issues.

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You'll never notice the redipping and I wouldn't have a problem with that, hell, I wouldn't even send it back for redipping. Cosmetic flaws don't bother me in my equipment, being without the bow would be worse that some camo coming off the riser for me.

All manufacturers have troubles from time to time. I bought my first Bowtech after new Hoyts the past 10 years and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Hoyt.

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I'd just be glad they were willing to fix the CAMO (a cameo is like when you see a pro football player on a sit-com or something, like a special appearance). I think you are freaking out a little too much.JMHO

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We have always been told at the store that thefinish is coverd under the warrenty.

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If hoyt is not going to stand behind the camo in there warrenty then for I know for a fact the next bow and all bowsWILL NOT BE A HOYT in my house. When you spend the money for some thing it should be right.

The reason I an so mad about the redipping is that I have a benelli nova thst has been sent back to get it redip 5 times and the camo is still falling off the gun. I have giving up the time of sending it back because it has spent more time in the mail then in the feild. So I think that if you spend 300 or 3000 then the job so just be right. So to me benelli is now notworth the performance.

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But Hoyt is backing it...So what is the problem ?

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The camo may not effect the performance of the bow, buta lot of money was paid for the bow with buyer's understanding that he'd have a camo bow. If you drove a new pickup off the lot and the paint started peeling off the next week I'd bet you'd be pretty ticked off. It doesn't affect the way the truck drives but you paid for a shiny black truck not a peeling paint job. A lot of products like binocs and range finders will cost more jsut to get them in camo rather than black. As long as Hoyt and Scheel's get it fixed in a timely manner, I'd be happy. If it peels off again I'd get my money back and by a BowTech, and if Scheel's doesn't cooperate I'd get the BowTech from another store.

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I can't understand your attitude about the whole thing, but you're entitled to your opinion. If your tone while dealing with them has been anything like it is here, I'm sure they're crying a river to see you bother someone else.:(


GH

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BowTech does not stand behind any cosmetic defaults..So you are barking up the wrong tree on this one...

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Maybe they don't; but if there camo doesn't peel off, then it doesn't make a difference.

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There camo does peel..I have seen enough of them..and they will also charge you $25.00 to send back a new bow on a warrenty repair...I wonder how much Hoyt will charge you ? I am a dealer so I know what goes on with the differant compnies...

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I think if you pay lots of money for something like a new bow in CAMO, you should not have to worry about the CAMO falling off, but i also understand that sometimes people make mistakes and it looks as though Hoyt is trying to fix it.

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Looks to me like Hoyt is taking care of your problem. I would be disappointed too but I really don't see what else should be required by them...they are taking care of the problem with the camo. In one of the earlier post someone made reference to the paint on a new truck peeling. Do you think the manufacturer is going to replace the whole truck just because the paint is defective? Of course not, they will fix the problem area in the paint.

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I agree Josh, but I can relate with getting angry over a faulty product. Lets just hopethis is no indication as to the up coming standers and is simply a one time fault.Ilove all my hoyt bows.

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It shouldn't matter how they fix the problem. If the same bow is refinished or if they give you a new one, who cares as long as it's fixed and it doesn't happen again.

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I own a hoyt and have never had a peeling problem. I don't think it would be a problem for me if it did peel. If you are having trouble with camo things get them without camo. Hoyts a good product everything cant be perfect.

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Unreal to me how the entire company is automatically garbage and going down the toilet because of one incident. Get a grip. Hoyt and Scheels both offered to take care of it, so let them.

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Just spray paint it :D

Gawd what I wouldnt do to have an anodized camo Hoyt like the older ones.. those things were bullet proof.

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Maybe you should stop cleaning your stuff with carb cleaner.;)

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i 100% agree

personally i think you have nothing to be mad about. there redipping it for you, they didnt have to. you didnt have to send it to them, but you chose to, so now live with it. theres nothin wrong with the bow except a few flakes of camo off of it, if your that p.oed about it send the damn thing to me!!!

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Couple things, I understand that it suks to have this sort of thing appen at all let alone two months, and that we are all willing to spend our hard earned money for the equipment we want, but...

EVENTHOUGH HOYTdoes not warranty their cammo(and I agree that they should) they are willing to fix it for you, sounds like free of charge.

SCHEELS isn't the one to be mad at, other than sell you the bow you wanted and any otherequipment, products orservices you needed, they have done nothing wrong.

To stomp around wanting a NEW BOW because the one you currently have is peeling...whats to say the next wont either, then how upset will you be?

MY advise is the same as most here...TAKEA DEEP BREATH...LET IT OUT and see what happens after the bow is redipped. If it does'nt happen again, you love your bow.. If it does, but a new one, you love your bow same result..

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I would say that both Hoyt and Scheels treated you very well. Why would Hoyt take back a bow after you have owned it for months? They have no idea if it was ever dry fired, shot with below IBO weight arrows or how it was stored. Likely none of that happened but they have no way of knowing. Most companies don't warranty the finish and the fact they offered to cover it in my eyes is first class sevice from Hoyt. Hey, if you ever actually hunt with that bow ( in the woods ) odds are you will eventually scratch it anyway, your hand will eventually wear away some paint. If you bought it only to look at then you should buy a purty target chrome one:D

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PRECISELY

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Birdbustin,I have never had camo come off on two things like that(or I haven't noticed)are you getting Deet or any chemicals on those camo finishes?Deet will take it off in a heartbeat. Oh yeah another thing,I have had good luck with Hoyt when I have called them directly,also there is power in the pen(or these days e-mail)write them an e-mail and or let them know you may be letting the BBB know of your dissatisfaction.I'm not real persnicketty though about stuff like appearance on bows,but if it's fairly new and it bugs you then by all means do what you think is right.

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I swear I've never seen so many folks having so many problems with equipment...... I've been bowhunting for 16yrs and have never had a problem with the 10 or so bows I've owned.... I wouldn't even care if a company offered a warranty.... I've never used a warranty, for anything.... I've have noticed though that some people will bitch about anything..... Not just you birdbustin, many others.....

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"shot it about 8 times and last night I was waxing the string and I see that the cameo on the riser and some cameo on the limb are starting to flake off"

You paid good coin for a NEW bow. If this happened I'd be pissed. Then, if they fixed it, I'dget over it. If they didn't fix it, I'd never buy any of their products again, period.

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Camo &
Warranty..............The correct spelling for these two words.

Send it back and geta PSE, everything is WARRANTED

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Man, some of you people really need to get a life. You got a little flake or two in a paint job and you're wanting to boycott the company. What type of car do you drive. GO check it as closely for flaws. See what they say about a paint blemish or a door that doesn't align correctly. Others here are ready to condemn and have the company go belly up for saying, "Ops, maybe our bad. Send it back and we'll get right on it". DUHHHHHHHHHHHHhh... what part of "The company is fixing it" don't you understand. I can show you paint blemishes and flaws on every bow made. A dip process is NOT precision computer painting folks. What a bunch of cry babies. What do you want besides the company fixing the problem, a million dollar law suit or something. Cripes.... whinners.

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:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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David,

Show me who's whining.