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Mate Mike 04-06-2006 03:33 PM

BowTech Pros and Cons
 



I thinking of getting a new BowTech, either the Tribute or Equalizer. Any pros or cons?

Rick James 04-06-2006 04:17 PM

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What is your draw length, how much weight to you plan to draw, and what do you want to use the bow for primarily? Do you shoot competitively,if so what type of competition? Would it be a hunting and backyard only hunting bow?

Mate Mike 04-06-2006 05:02 PM

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My draw length is 26.5", 50 lbs. deer hunting mostly from a tree stand.

Dougk 04-06-2006 05:47 PM

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The bows feel great at the draw-and shoot fast..

however they have cam lean and limb twist..and that is a serious concern..

bigcountry 04-06-2006 06:24 PM

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Probably get more advise in the gear review section. Not really a technical question about tuning or setup.

Note: The Gear Review Forum is suppose to be used for reviewing gear that you have used or purchase and not for asking bowhunting/technical questions. This thread is better suited for the Bowhunting forum and that's why it was moved here/there.

Okie48 04-06-2006 06:27 PM

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I never heard that Dougk. Can you elaborate on that? Also explain on Bowtech cam lean and limb twist.

funeralplanner1 04-06-2006 07:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: Dougk

The bows feel great at the draw-and shoot fast..

however they have cam lean and limb twist..and that is a serious concern..
The cam lean and limb twist is new to me as well, and I have 2 bowtech bows (05-06 allegiance), and don't have any problems at all. Very fast, very quiet bows. I've had PSE and Mathews. I like the Bowtech, that is my choice.

Rob/PA Bowyer 04-06-2006 08:06 PM

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The supposed cam lean/limb twist is very isolated and rare. It should not be a concern especially in the 06 models as it was address and remedied. Therefore, there is no "con" to owning a Bowtech except that you won't want to put it down....

Pros...too many to list...but I particular like and went with the Allegiance. With your limited draw length and poundage, you'll get significantly more speed/KE etc from the Allegiance but you will be very pleased with the Tribute and from what I understand even more out of the Equalizer.



Greg / MO 04-06-2006 08:10 PM

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This supposed "cam lean" has been discussed ad nauseum before... If you don't believe me, take a couple hours to read the thread behind the link: http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=920436&mpage=1

Rick James 04-06-2006 08:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mate Mike

My draw length is 26.5", 50 lbs. deer hunting mostly from a tree stand.
If you are 26.5", and it is a hunting bow only right now, I would have a tribute w/ smooth mods. I don't think for hunting only you would need the extra fps out of a equalizer, and the extra forgiveness of a tribute plus the smooth mods are going to make it a pleasure to pull back when it is cold out and you have been sitting all day. You can add fast mods and still be pretty quick if you ever get into 3D, and you still have a bit more brace height if you hunt with a jacket.


Rick James 04-06-2006 08:33 PM

RE: BowTech Pros and Cons
 

ORIGINAL: Dougk

The bows feel great at the draw-and shoot fast..

however they have cam lean and limb twist..and that is a serious concern..
Last night one of the guys I shoot with shot a 450 on a vegas face w/ 42X's in the lane next to me, I also shot my best round yet......all on bowtechs. Both of these bows have what you are describing as "cam lean", but somehow the arrow hits the same spot every time when you do your part. His bow has probably 10,000 shots on it and mine has a few too and neither of them show any signs of bearing wear, etc..............so I don't worry about it. I am on my 4th one now and none of them had any issues at all.

ampahunter 04-06-2006 08:40 PM

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I'm unable to comment about the 'cons' in the USA, but here in Canada, I would say a 'con' would be the un-availability of warranty replacements parts at most of BowTech dealerships. It seems for us here in Canada,it is much easier to get replacement limbs,etc for a BowTech bow from the USA, than it is to get it here--as it takes quitea long time.
BowTech should INSIST that the dealers herecarry some amount of spares for their bows OR at least have the ability to get these partsin a 'reasonable' amount of time. I feel too much emphasis is focued on 'selling new bows' and very littlenotice is given to the unfortunate guys who've got to wait, sometimes months, to have their bows repaired.
I would honestly love to see more attention given to the availability and thereplacement of parts for their bows here in Southern Ontario--in my view, this is a burning problem. JMHO.
On the other hand, like one of the mods mentioned, the pros are many.

TerryM 04-06-2006 08:57 PM

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I'm unable to comment about the 'cons' in the USA, but here in Canada, I would say a 'con' would be the un-availability of warranty replacements parts at most of BowTech dealerships. It seems for us here in Canada, it is much easier to get replacement limbs,etc for a BowTech bow from the USA, than it is to get it here--as it takes quite a long time.
BowTech should INSIST that the dealers here carry some amount of spares for their bows OR at least have the ability to get these parts in a 'reasonable' amount of time. I feel too much emphasis is focued on 'selling new bows' and very little notice is given to the unfortunate guys who've got to wait, sometimes months, to have their bows repaired.
I would honestly love to see more attention given to the availability and the replacement of parts for their bows here in Southern Ontario--in my view, this is a burning problem. JMHO.
On the other hand, like one of the mods mentioned, the pros are many.
I agree. What Bowtech has to do is deal directly with the proshops when repairs and warranty work are necessary. The whole process of having to go through a distributor might make business sense for selling new product but only seriously slows everything down on repair work. Its just another step. I know what particular bow you are probably talking about and quite frankly I would have switched to another brand except for the fact that the other regional wholesaler that reps Hoyt and Mathews is everybit as slow from what some shops have told me. I was considering a Switchback and was quoted 8 weeks delivery which in the real world we unfortunately know can mean 16 weeks or more ;)

bowtech die hard 04-06-2006 08:57 PM

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tribute: smooth draw (with smooth mods) relatively fast, no hand shock

Equalizer: very fast, smooth draw, relatively no hand shock

basically either way you go you'll be set. If you're a smaller framed guy I'd say go with the equalizer.

ampahunter 04-06-2006 09:10 PM

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Terry, the bow you're thinking about I was only recently madeaware of.

I also had the same problem with my Liberty in 2004, I waited for 'MONTHS' until I called BowTech myself and end up PAYING for a new set of limbs just to get my bow shooting again--I NEVER got my limbs replaced on warranty--not up to today.
And would you believe, I went back with BowTech again in 2005 and 2006--and now again in 2006 yet another unfortunate guy is experiencing the same thing I'd gone thru---NOTHING HAS CHANGED or seems like!!
Sad!!
Something needs to be properly and finally addressed and you sure do make a good point there. Let the dealers arrange directly with BowTech warranty replacements parts--as we've got too many cooks spoiling the broth.

TerryM 04-06-2006 10:32 PM

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Ampa,
I think you're too nice a guy here. If I had been screwed like that I would have started with a registered letter to the President of Bowtech explaining what my next step would have been and believe me they would not have wanted that. The internet is an extremely powerful tool today and I'm sure they monitor it to some extent. Personally I have had nothing but good luck and service so far. My Equalizer was in in less than a week from order and any questions I sent to customer service was always handled very quickly. I'm on my third Bowtech and have had no problems whatsoever. My buddy on the other hand ( and you know the situation ) is being jerked around by somebody, not quite sure exactly who that is but I have my theories.

Orions_Bow 04-07-2006 08:17 AM

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Pros & cons....first have you shot the bows? One of them has to feel better to shoot. Have you compaired them to other bows from other companies? If so which one feels the best to shoot, is the Bowtechs the best feeling out of all of them? Which one meets your style of hunting the best? With that said I think most falls into the group "you love them or hate them". I think Bowtech has some pros such as nice camo, nice grips, good speeds, good warranty. They also have some cons (what bow dosn't?).The one thing I am not a big fan of is the lack of a yoke system. I have seen a few with bad cam lean and a yoke would have been an easy solution. I also think you either love the way they feel whenthey shoot or you do not. I personally like the feel of other bows better but thats just me. Bowtech makes a great product even though I am not totally sold on the Binary Cam yet. Don't get me wrong it feels good and shoots good but my expereince with it is somewhat limited plus I really like the feel of a solocam still. I do like the hybrid cam systems and my next bow will more than likely have one.



Germ 04-07-2006 10:07 AM

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Pro - They have a great resell value
Pro - I do not shoot one anymore
Con - right into buying one!

Kirch 04-07-2006 11:21 AM

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I can't think of any cons w/ my mighty mite. I love it. But am looking hard at a new allegence : )

Mate Mike 04-07-2006 03:48 PM

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I met a BowTech dealer at aUnited Bowhunters of New Jersey meeting. I know there are a lot of good bow dealers around but he inspired a lot of confidence so I went to see him. Up to that point I was going to buy a Matthews Switchback XT and was measured by a Matthews dealer and told I had a 26.5" draw. Today I went to seethe BowTech dealerand was measured with a 27.75" draw. I ordered a BowTech Tribute with the smooth mods and all the bows and whistles I need. Bow felt great and very quiet. Can't wait to get it.

Diesel77 04-09-2006 07:59 AM

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Ive shot both BowTecs and they are great shooting bows and look pretty darn good. I would buy them if that was the brand I was interested in, in a second. I dont think you can go wrong with either one.

tthhWACKem 04-14-2006 02:30 PM

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So WHAT DRAW LENGTH did you go with, or you goin to fine tune t when you get it??


Mate Mike 04-14-2006 03:44 PM

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27.5" - I'm letting the experts fine tune it.

ewolf 04-15-2006 08:52 AM

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The cam lean was not fixed for 06. The constitution for 06 is much worst then the 05. With my 05 I had cam lean pretty bad on the top cam, the bottom cam was fine. For a experiment I switched the limbs top and bottom. The cam lean went away. Two weeks later it was back. Two months later the limb was broke. The limbs cannot take that lean, they get weaker over time. (A note:Bowtech doesn't produce or have 05 constitution limbs.If they don't have parts for last years model how many parts are they going to have in 3 years)

Another con is you are going to use there customer service. I also seem to be using my bow press alot, I'm always working on mine to keep it up. Twisting cables to keep it in time (Which you have to do:() twisting the string to get the draw length back perfect, or replacing thebearings in the cams; it seems tonever stop.

The pros are they have pretty good customer service. They are fast, and have ever other thing a good bow should have. IMO the design is the best out there, their execution isn't that great.

Budriser 04-15-2006 12:06 PM

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Mostly just cons!


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