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bad czech 10-23-2002 06:34 PM

walmart sucks
 
First of season I bought a 6 of shock waves 100 gr. The local bow shop doesn't carry them so I went back tonight to get another 6. They only had 125 gr and so I asked the guy at the counter if they would be getting any more in and he said probably not. Now if I'd knew that I probably wouldn't have chosen that head. Really all I need is replacement blades. What do you all thank about Walmart?

Rack-attack 10-23-2002 06:56 PM

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Take walmart for what its worth, it is only walmart, don't expect to much and you won't be dissapointed

okbwhtr 10-23-2002 07:41 PM

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You can only plan on that kind of service from discount chain.
I must admit they have some good prices on hunting suff when in stock.

bigbulls 10-23-2002 08:18 PM

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They only get a certain ammount for the season. After the hunting season is over they have to fill the shelvs with stuff like water ski, boating etc. If they have a real surpluss on hand at the end of the season then they have to discount them even more. Just remember that hunting is seasonal and get more than what you might need when they first put the stuff out and you'll be ok.

Joel5 10-23-2002 08:28 PM

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If it is the same stuff, it'll work as good as if you buy it at a bow shop. If you buy generic, it'll be generic.

Tree climber 10-23-2002 08:51 PM

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if you see it at wally world,you better get it then. when it's gone,it's gone.

they told me they never carry replacement blades because they are to easy to put in your pocket and walk out with.<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_8ball.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Sooner_Hunter 10-23-2002 09:42 PM

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thats just the way it is man. if they don't have at the bow shop suggest you go on line and order. its not personal with them. its just business.


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Lady Forge 10-23-2002 10:13 PM

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Archery season opened here on Oct 1,02. I went to Wal-Mart and I got a pack of 4 blade muzzy 100 grains ( Realtree Camo Ferule) and liked them so much that I went back to Wal-Mart to get some more on Oct 15,02 and there was none on the shelf, so I asked the young man behind the sporting goods counter if they had anymore in back , and he replied no, I then asked if and when they would be getting any more and he replied&quot; No I wont be getting anymore&quot; when I asked him why not he replied &quot; they only allow me to order hunting products up until a certain date and we have already passed that deadline date&quot; I told him your have to be kidding right? We are only 2 weeks into the archery season with 3 months left to go!!!I would of gladly shelled out $40.00 on broadheads at Wal-Mart if they had them in stock or coming in soon,Jeeze what pencil pushing rocket scientist made that rule written in stone. I won over alot more customers in my franchise when I had it by being flexible and always remembering &quot; No policy or rule is written in stone&quot;accept the Ten Commandments, Guess Ill have to take the buisness elsewhere if Wal-Mart dosent want it.

IndyHunter 10-23-2002 11:22 PM

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Let me get this straight, Wallyworld carried the heads you wanted, but ran out. Your local ARCHERY shop didn't carry them at all. And Walmart is the one that sucks? Ok.
I guess neither one of you have shopped much at Walmart, especially for seasonal type items. Once it is sold out, it's gone. They aren't much different than any other chain type store. With Wallyworlds prices, they more than likely have &quot;contracts&quot; with companies that they will buy a certain item at a cheap price as long as they buy a certain # of those items. The # of those items they want to buy is based on how many(for the most part) they sold last year, and expect to sell this year. The reason you can buy them for several dollars cheaper at wallyworld than you can at your local archery shop is because of these contracts and large volume purchases. It is no different than their Xmas items. They sell Xmas trees also, but would you expect them to special order you a tree 3 weeks before Xmas? Once it is gone, it's gone. Like Sooner said, it is business. And being that they aren't a small personal business they don't cater to individual needs(thats what an archery shop is for) especially on items that they only sell for a month or two per year. I'm not defending wallyworld (although I should own stock as much money as I've spent in their hunting dept.), I am just trying to give you an idea why things are done that way. Don't get me wrong, I feel your pain (badcz and Ladyforge), i've had the same happen to me. But give me a break, it is Walmart! Not only do they have decent prices, but they are one of the only big chain stores that haven't folded to anti-gun/hunting pressure. If you need an item that bad, and that quickly, then overnight it from Cabelas or BassPro. Pretty simple.

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BrianDamage 10-24-2002 02:32 AM

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Let me get this straight, Wallyworld carried the heads you wanted, but ran out. Your local ARCHERY shop didn't carry them at all. And Walmart is the one that sucks? Ok.
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Good point!

I don't expect Walmart to have what I need in regards to my hunting/archery supplies. It's nice if I happen to cruise by there and they've got something I'd like to have or try, but otherwise I'm at the local sporting goods store or online/in a catalog.

Now if the store was named &quot;Walmart Archery & Hunting Supplies&quot;, you might have a valid point there....

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Edited by - BrianDamage on 10/24/2002 03:33:46

bad czech 10-24-2002 05:23 AM

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Thanks for your input, made me look at it a little diferently. I'll stay with the pro shop, unless its camo clothing.

gleninAZ 10-24-2002 05:30 AM

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Wal Mart is the scourge of small town America. They pay crap wages and run every small store and proshop out of business. We do it by wanting to save a buck but that's free enterprise. Your local bowshop owner is a fool for not beating Wally on their limited selection and making his money on bows and accessories.

NJ-Bowhunter 10-24-2002 06:47 AM

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Walmart is all about supply, demand, and seasonal product rotation. Everything is a give and take relationship: They have great prices but not the best supply and service; specialty shops have great supply and sometimes very high prices (and on occasion, elite snobs as salespeople). For me it is a Good day when Walmart has what I'm looking for, but it is &quot;expected&quot; when they don't.

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Lady Forge 10-24-2002 06:58 AM

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Indy Hunter; Many hunters do not have a local Archery shop to buy from and the reality is not everyone has a credit card to order items overnight , or want to pay the extra shipping charges for the overnight item. That is why so many turn to Wal-Mart and many of the larger chain stores in their local areas. Your guess that I dont shop at Wal-mart is incorrect.I wasnt dissapointed that they wouldnt order an item 3 weeks prior to the end of season, I was dissapointed that they couldnt order an item 3 MONTHS PRIOR TO THE END OF SEASON. Broadheads are not a perishable item that will be a waste cost item to Wal-Mart it is a item that will store in backstock if not sold this year to sell next year, or can be left on the shelf to sell the remaining 3 months of the season. I usually shop at Wal-Mart because of the consistancy, Prices ,convience, Quality and avaliablity of items. I am aware that this is a seasonal dept so it is limited in shelf lifespan but really, only 2 weeks in season are open for orders( not including preseason ordering)so now it is no longer convienent , available or consistant to me. I dont usually buy there because his markup on items is Jawdropping usually, but I took the chance and they had what I was looking for, and for once it was $5.00 less than Wal-Mart. I have also found a few good Larger Chain stores in our area that have not succump to the influence of the Anti sentiment or presure.So the statement of take Wal-Mart for its worth, its only Wal-Mart, is a pretty realistic idea to me . Do you think this is what the corp office wants to be their new advertising campaign?

ijimmy 10-24-2002 07:07 AM

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It has nothing to do with the pepole in the store ' they dont order . They may count items but they dont order .Seasonal items like that are bought in bulk and sent out to stores as a &quot;corprate order or orders&quot; . The store has no say in when or how many they get and when they are gone , they are gone till next year .

If information provided by the members of this board have helped you please let us know .

Iowa Monsterbuck 10-24-2002 08:12 AM

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Like they said you have to take your chances with Wal-Mart. They are not in the sporting goods business and as much volume as I see running through the Super Wal-Mart near where I live I would guess that hunting equipment sales is a miniscule parcentage of their total revenue. I do feel your pain though, I was looking at buying one of those EZ Hangers this fall to hang my bow on. The look like they would work really well and be more convenient than my stand mounted holder because then I wouldn't have to take the quiver off all the time. Well I didn't buy it right away and when I finally decided to get it a couple of weeks later do you think they had any? Heck no, sold out in all three stores Ilooked in. Am I angry at Wal-Mart? No, I understand that I am shopping for sporting goods at a discount department store.

As far as the backstock comment somebody made that really isn't very feasible. When you figure the amount of space it would take to store a department full of hunting items (assuming they kept everyone happy and stocked things all season and not just your one size and brand of broadheads) then consider the size of the storage they would need to store all the items that may be seasonal in nature (hey, if they're gonna change a policy it's going to apply to all departments not just one) that would be a lot of square footage. Now consider cost to build, heat, air condition, light, etc, etc. Not to mention the cost of keeping that money tied up for months in inventory sitting in the backroom, which would be substantial. It goes beyond the scope of this forum but interest charges on corporate debt, cash flow, opportunity cost, etc, etc.

Bottom line you know you aren't going to Bass Pro or Cabela's when you walk in the door and the old broad says &quot;Welcome to Wal-Mart!&quot; so don't expect that kind of service. Go in early, before the season and buy what you might find a good deal on that you anticipate you might need for the upcoming season. If things happen during the season and you need something else check back but if they don't have it then go to the experts.

Maybe a dumb question but why only two weeks into the season do you need another six broadheads right away anyway? Have you shot that many deer???

IndyHunter 10-24-2002 09:48 AM

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Broadheads are not a perishable item that will be a waste cost item to Wal-Mart it is a item that will store in backstock if not sold this year to sell next year, or can be left on the shelf to sell the remaining 3 months of the season. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

True, but storing inventory costs big money. As Cabelas said, building, heat, personnel etc, and don't forget about taxes. Not a real smart move to keep items on a shelf that you don't plan on selling for another 8 or 9 months. Not to mention that archery equipment design changes from year to year, so if they make an improvement to your broadheads (or even the packaging), then the heads that wallyworld has on their shelf are now &quot;old&quot; and your probably going to buy the &quot;improved&quot; broadhead next year, not the old ones walmart had stocked. I would guess they order just enough to know that they will sell out and leave it at that. Ordering more is taking a risk for them, and I doubt that is how they got to be a multi-billion $ company.
LadyF, please don't take what I am saying the wrong way. I am in no way trying to come down on you at all. I've had the same thing happen to me, and they are especially bad with turkey hunting supplies (they ran out of turkey loads before the season even started!). Luckily I am in an area that has other stores within a 30-40 minute drive, plus a big sporting-goods store not far away. Not always convenient driving around to different stores, but better than the alternative.

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454 Casull 10-24-2002 04:53 PM

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&lt;&lt;-------&lt;&lt; dont like Wal-Mart anymore, wont be going back.


BOWFANATIC 10-24-2002 06:17 PM

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Walmart has saved my behind in a pinch on more than one occasion.

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davidmil 10-24-2002 06:36 PM

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The man is right. It's a big chain that buys on volume months ahead of time. They use central distribution points with seasonal shipments. They don't usually reorder these specialty things. It's big business... weather it's Walmart, Dicks or whatever.

SOLUTION: Support your local proshop. I'm sure the guy has broadheads that would have been more than adequate. Become a customer... tell him what you want. I guarantee the little guy will reorder what is selling.


Howler 10-24-2002 06:47 PM

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I'm not a big &quot;Wal-mart&quot; shopper when it comes to hunting gear myself, but am taking a trip this weekend to Ks., well I thought that I had bought my antler-less tags when I put in for my primary tag, well, turns out I didn't, so I called a Wal-mart along the way of tomorrows trip, and they happen to have doe tags, and they will be open 'til midnight. In other words, not too many stores to pick from any time after 8pm, so in a pinch, they will save me from having to look for tags when I should be hunting. And they have some awesome sells on camo clothing after season.

Wirehair 10-24-2002 06:55 PM

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A hot item in one store may not sell as well in another. One thing you can do is ask them to check the computer to see if another store has what you want, then ask them to ship it in. They have done that for me or if the time line is wrong I'll drive to the other store.




Caliper 10-24-2002 07:12 PM

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You all need to remember that Walmart is your cheapest place and Bowhunting in my neck of the woog here in PA lasts 6 weeks in OCT/NOV and two weeks in late december. So there not going to waste the space putting additional Bowhunting equipment when they can use the space for holiday shopping VCR&quot;S CD players and the like. Same thing goes for my local archery shop if they run out of an item two weeeks before or after the season begins forget about them getting additioanl stock. Thats why ill be as happy as hell when Cabellas opens there store here in PA next year. Anything you want anytime you want it. Most times anyway.

drop em were they stand 10-24-2002 07:16 PM

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I personally like wal-mart. Of course that is because i dont like spending a ton of money on stuff. But hey. Anyone heard of Dicks sporting goods?

Forever Hunter

bad czech 10-24-2002 07:50 PM

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Cabelas4Toys just to answer your question I used 3 heads to sight in and saved 3 for season. I've shot one doe and that leaves me with 2 new with season only half way through. I would really like 3 more and plenty of replaceable blades, because I've got a hog hunt coming up in Dec. I fell comfortable with these heads and don't want to take a chance shooting reruns.

Lady Forge 10-24-2002 08:37 PM

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I bought the 3 broadhead pack. And yes I have shot 3 deer in Illinois this season.But i did end up getting 6 broadheads this time, and my husband also shoots the same broadhead and grain weight.I was on a bowhunt with Michele Crummer( one of the owners of Muzzy Broadheads) on Oct,12 this year, So I sent them a e-mail about this and Michele replied, that Wal-Mart is very careful of not carrying any left over.So its all Wal-Mart and not the suppier. I know next time if I find them at Wal-Mart I will feel like I just won the lottery.

Iowa Monsterbuck 10-24-2002 11:06 PM

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Bad Czech, can you sharpen the blades on any of the 4 you have used? I've never tried it but it seems like I've seen a lot of posts about others sharpening their blades on here. Heck, sound like a lot of people sharpen the new ones right out of the package to get them even sharper.

I don't know how many deer you can take where you are but I would think you would want to go into any season with at least twice as many sets of blades as the number of deer you can shoot. This would allow you a 50% miss rate and still give you enough to fill all your tags with new blades. I can only take 2 deer but I have three unused broadheads (I have three others I practice with) and a package of replacement blades (9 - 12 can't remember how many in the pack right now)So I could shoot at least 6 times in trying to fill my two tags and still use fresh blades each time.

As I think somebody already suggested I would just call Cabela's and order a set of replacement blades. I think that at least 90% of the time I have ever ordered from them if I order an item monday morning I've got it by friday.

As far as the whole Wal-Mart thing goes I'll buy scent products there or maybe a bow holder or some gloves or ammo for gun season or something but I generally buy most of my gear from a serious sporting goods store.


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