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Lx lungbuster 02-25-2006 03:39 PM

GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
Ok friday night i just had a new string put on my Mathews lx bow and i bring it home. im pulling it back to make some adjustments to my peep sight and when the bow is let back down about a quarter of the way down BANG it fires. My release malfunctioned and the bow is dry fired. i called the proshop and he cant look at till tuesday and anything wrong with it will be replaced by mathews. but what should i look at to see if there is any thing is wrong with it that i might have to take it to a different shop earlier than tuesday. im really down in the dumps i think a dry fire is the worst thing u cand do to a bow. Your suggesstions and anwers will be greatly appreceiated.

MOTOWNHONKEY 02-25-2006 04:01 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
I dry fired mine accidently before, it flew out of my hands and hit the ground and nothing was wrong with it. Just look it over good and if all looks good shoot the dang thing. I bet nothing is wrong with it.

The Rev 02-25-2006 05:13 PM

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Check it each time you shoot it.. make sure you don't see any fraying where your strings and cables are attached to cams and limbs... if you see any fraying replace what you see fraying... I did that once, and noticed some fraying where my cables were attached to the cams, but I continued shooting it.. BAM, it got it in the face.. not fun!!![:o]

bigbulls 02-25-2006 05:59 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
Nothing you can do until you can get it checked out by a professional.


i called the pro shop and he cant look at till tuesday and anything wrong with it will be replaced by mathews.
Unless he is going to lie to Mathews their warranty does not cover dry fires. So if you have cracked or delaminated limbs, bent axles, torn strings, etc... you are suppose to pay for that stuff out of your own pocket.

Don't be part of the reason that bow prices are so high.

mexhuntr 02-25-2006 06:26 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
[:@]too bad to hear this but you might take it with a pro before you try something else

ORIGINAL: bigbulls

Nothing you can do until you can get it checked out by a professional.


i called the pro shop and he cant look at till tuesday and anything wrong with it will be replaced by mathews.
Unless he is going to lie to Mathews their warranty does not cover dry fires. So if you have cracked or delaminated limbs, bent axles, torn strings, etc... you are suppose to pay for that stuff out of your own pocket.

Don't be part of the reason that bow prices are so high.

manboy 02-25-2006 09:22 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
WELL SAID BIGBULLS!;)

wvOHIOfan 02-25-2006 11:16 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 

ORIGINAL: bigbulls

Nothing you can do until you can get it checked out by a professional.


i called the pro shop and he cant look at till tuesday and anything wrong with it will be replaced by mathews.
Unless he is going to lie to Mathews their warranty does not cover dry fires. So if you have cracked or delaminated limbs, bent axles, torn strings, etc... you are suppose to pay for that stuff out of your own pocket.

Don't be part of the reason that bow prices are so high.
lol.. let me guess, if it wereYOU , you'd happily pay out of your own pocket ?? I always get a chuckle out of the "holier than thou " posts....

Howler 02-26-2006 08:18 AM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
I want to know what kind of release it was that failed, so I can avoid ever buying one like it!

Lx lungbuster 02-26-2006 10:37 AM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 


ORIGINAL: bigbulls


i called the pro shop and he cant look at till tuesday and anything wrong with it will be replaced by mathews.
Unless he is going to lie to Mathews their warranty does not cover dry fires. So if you have cracked or delaminated limbs, bent axles, torn strings, etc... you are suppose to pay for that stuff out of your own pocket.

Don't be part of the reason that bow prices are so high.
just to let you know i never said anything about it being covered by mathews warranty or that it would be replaced free of charge so please get your facts straight before you start rambling on how im doing you a such agreatdiservice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


deer-hunter18 02-26-2006 10:54 AM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 

ORIGINAL: Lx lungbuster

Ok friday night i just had a new string put on my Mathews lx bow and i bring it home. im pulling it back to make some adjustments to my peep sight and when the bow is let back down about a quarter of the way down BANG it fires. My release malfunctioned and the bow is dry fired. i called the proshop and he cant look at till tuesday and anything wrong with it will be replaced by mathews. but what should i look at to see if there is any thing is wrong with it that i might have to take it to a different shop earlier than tuesday. im really down in the dumps i think a dry fire is the worst thing u cand do to a bow. Your suggesstions and anwers will be greatly appreceiated.
I think this is where you said it would be covered by Mathews....

newman1 02-26-2006 11:02 AM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: deer-hunter18


ORIGINAL: Lx lungbuster

Ok friday night i just had a new string put on my Mathews lx bow and i bring it home. im pulling it back to make some adjustments to my peep sight and when the bow is let back down about a quarter of the way down BANG it fires. My release malfunctioned and the bow is dry fired. i called the proshop and he cant look at till tuesday and anything wrong with it will be replaced by mathews. but what should i look at to see if there is any thing is wrong with it that i might have to take it to a different shop earlier than tuesday. im really down in the dumps i think a dry fire is the worst thing u cand do to a bow. Your suggesstions and anwers will be greatly appreceiated.
I still don't see where he said Mathews was going to pay for it.The way i read this is that they are going to send it back to mathewsto be fixed.I am sure he knows there will be a bill for the repair.

BOWFANATIC 02-26-2006 11:10 AM

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Before drawing it back again , take a close look at your limbs. Then take a cotton ball and rub it over your limbs. If there is a tiny crack you may have missed by just looking at it ,the cotton fibres will catch in the cracks.

Don't listen to the b.s. about the warranty and bow prices. If I had a dollar for every limb that was replaced free of chargeby people dropping their bow from their stand or shooting too light of arrows to get over that oh so precious 300fps barrierI'd be rich.

Lx lungbuster 02-26-2006 12:16 PM

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I thank the guys who are supposed to be fellow archers but have decided to blackball this question and put words in my mouth to make me look like some guy trying to cheat the system. What I meant when I said it would be replaced by mathews was that anything that was wrong with the bow could be replaced in the old camo that my lx was made in seeing that they have switched to realtree hardwoods. Ithought mostof you knew thatI guessI was wrong.I thank the few guys who actually answered my question with helpfull answers andI trully thank you. If any one else is planning on posting a reply about the statement its self and not a answer the question please dont even bother because I dont have know time the read your 2cents.

Bees 02-26-2006 06:29 PM

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bow is let back down about a quarter of the way down BANG it fires.

it wasn't a full dry fire, so it might not have hurt anything. it's more than likely OK.

Howler 02-26-2006 09:00 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
So, what kind of release was it that failed, and what failed on it.Any pictures of the release?

bigbulls 02-26-2006 09:19 PM

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Unbunch your panties lungbuster. This aint my first time around this block.

I didn't put any words in your mouth nor did I say that you would take up the pro shops offer to let Mathews foot the bill for a dry fire.

You wrote that mathews was going to replace anything that was wrong with it. It's not going to go back to Mathews for repairs like Newman suggested. With about a 95% certainty I know exactly what the pro shop is going to tell Mathews so he can keep you a satisfied customer. He will simply call them up and tell them he as a warranty limb issue, give them your bows serial number, and get new limbs shipped to him. He will replace the limbs and string if needed and call you when it's ready. And when you come to pick it up from the pro shop and he tells you it's been covered under warranty and all you owe is $20 for his labor you won't think twice about it.

I hope that nothing is wrong with your bow in the first place but if there is I also hope that this scenario doesn't happen.

I happen to be in the gun and archery business and have to deal with this stuff all the time as do many others on this forum. We are also the 2nd largest Mathews dealer in the country so I get to piss more than a few careless customers off cause they don't get free limbs or a free cam after they dry fire a bow. Of course they go talk to the owner and he usually caves in and gives them what they want so they don't go whine to their buddies about how badly they were treated for something that was their own fault.


For you OHIOfan, I do pay for my repairs if I break it. I let my string slip from my fingers last year at about half draw and had to purchase a new set of cams and a new string and cables. The thought to ask for free replacement cams or come up with some crap story never crossed my mind. It was a $120 mistake and I paid for it. So yes, I guess I am "holier than thou (you)".

BOWFANATIC, even though it was a shot at me in your post you proved exactly my point. Yep, you'd be rich and if these people actually had to pay for repairs that were their own fault others wouldn't be complaining about the costs of bows as much.

va mountain hunter 02-26-2006 09:22 PM

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'Bigbulls' is a wise man.

wvOHIOfan 02-26-2006 09:39 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
Not if he thinks that the reason bow prices are high is because people make false warranty claims. A bottle of Coca-Cola used to be 25 cents, now its 1.05... let me guess, false warranty claims??? Wake up.

BOWFANATIC 02-26-2006 09:42 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 

BOWFANATIC, even though it was a shot at me in your post you proved exactly my point. Yep, you'd be rich and if these people actually had to pay for repairs that were their own fault others wouldn't be complaining about the costs of bows as much.
bigbulls , if I intended to "take a shot at you" specifically I would have called you out by name and quoted exactly what you wrote that I disagreed with , kind of like now.

I don't know how your shop sells your bows or what kind of warranty they offer but around here one of the biggest pro's of shelling out $750 for a Mathews is the warranty and service offered by the dealers and the manufacturer. His limbs would have been replaced at no charge period! If he damaged his cam(s) , string or cables it would come out of his pocket.

Now , do you really want to get into a discussion about the high prices of bows and what drives the prices? I'm game.

cameronmclain 02-26-2006 09:54 PM

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holy cow...

here we go again..........

va mountain hunter 02-26-2006 09:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: wvOHIOfan

Not if he thinks that the reason bow prices are high is because people make false warranty claims. A bottle of Coca-Cola used to be 25 cents, now its 1.05... let me guess, false warranty claims??? Wake up.
I meant that he seems very perceptive and 'in tune' with what goes on in the industry and business in general and is able to read situations for what they appear to be. And yes, I think that false warranty claims are A PART of what makes bows so expensive nowadays. Maybe not a huge part, but a factor nonetheless.

bigbulls 02-26-2006 10:21 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
Sorry if it wasn't a shot at me but I am the one that mentioned the "BS about the warranty and bow prices".

I know that false warranty issues are only part of the reason bows cost so much but it's still money being spent that doesn't need to be and it does add to the overall cost of the prices that the consumer must pay for. If you want to get right down to the basics it is stealing. And who ends up paying for others stealing? The consumer does cause the manufacturer, distributor, and dealer just figures it into the selling price.

Sorry but we (I) don't replace limbs or any other part of the bow if a customer dry fires, drops it from 30 feet up on a rock, runs it over with their truck, or any other issue of customer neglect. I charge accordingly and lke I said earlier the owner usually ends up giving them what they want if they make a big enough fuss about it. If there is a legitimate problem with the bow then it gets taken care of ASAP at no charge (even labor) and if there is a neglect issue it still gets taken care of ASAP but you gotta pay for it.

Just like I don't expect my tahoe to be repaired for free if I drive it with out oil in the engine.

It's common sense and it all stems back to people taking responsibility for their own actions. Which is very lacking any more.



BTW, I think I need to post a disclaimer here cause someone is going to have their blood boiling................... none of this is in any way an attempt to make Lungbuster out to be a bad guy and is in no way directed at him. I am not trying to insenuate that he would do anything like this. I don't know him and I am not trying to make assumptions about him.


EDIT: What exactly does having to pay $1.05 for a bottle of coke have anything to do with dry firing a bow? Let me think for a second........ Oh yeah, nothing. :eek:

ShadowAce 02-26-2006 11:38 PM

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Your bow is probably fine. They are made to withstand dry-firing nowadays. If it's not OK, bigbulls is dead on. Hope it turns out OK for you. Haven't heard what the release failure was?

Bols 02-26-2006 11:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: bigbulls
EDIT: What exactly does having to pay $1.05 for a bottle of coke have anything to do with dry firing a bow? Let me think for a second........ Oh yeah, nothing. :eek:
I think he was speaking of inflation as the main factor of rising cost. Bows or Cokes, its part of our lives.



bowtech die hard 02-27-2006 12:17 AM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
Check the limbs for cracks at the pocket, as well as forcracks at your axels....Also check your cams for n e thing out of the ordinary. Look at the limbs real close cause sometimes it's hard to see cracks with the camo jobs out there.

Howler 02-27-2006 05:48 AM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
I have a sneaky suspision that the release never failed, if it did, we would've seen a picture of it by now!

wvOHIOfan 02-27-2006 07:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: Bols


ORIGINAL: bigbulls
EDIT: What exactly does having to pay $1.05 for a bottle of coke have anything to do with dry firing a bow? Let me think for a second........ Oh yeah, nothing. :eek:
I think he was speaking of inflation as the main factor of rising cost. Bows or Cokes, its part of our lives.


Exactly, at least someone gets it.

statjunk 02-27-2006 08:40 AM

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Big Bulls,

I have come to respect a lot of the opinions and advice that you give on this forum. I think that you are one of the key contributors! You've helped me a few times and I've seen you help countless others. With that said, you have got to chill. The stress is going to kill you man!

Tom

Lx lungbuster 02-27-2006 04:10 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
WHOA WHOA WHOA I never wanted to start a feud or any thing and if I did I amdeeply sorry. I amrealy dissapointed and ifI weresomeone new to this site or archery it's self and i posted a question and got a response like this one it would probably be the last one they ever made here and it could probabaly turn him/her away from the arhery community. For the release there is something wrong with it, the jaws will no long stay closed by themselves. The realease was a cheapTrueFirei bought a few years back and after this i have purchased a scott realease. the reason no pic is because i have yet to purchase a digital camera. All i wanted was a simple answer to my question on what to do not start a fight with guys who should be working together to protect and keep archery alive and safe from those who want it to be destroyed.

bigbulls 02-27-2006 09:16 PM

RE: GUYS IVE GOT A REAL PROBLEM NEED YUR HELP
 
Lungbuster.

I wanted to apologize for getting worked up myself.

I think this was a big miscomunication of a bunch of our parts.

It was never my intention to accuse you of anything. I just wanted to point out the warranty issue. We never know who we are talking to on the other side of these screens and I tend to assume that people may not know certain things when it comes to stuff like this. I guess it stems over from dealing with nimrods at work all day long.;) You wouldn't believe the things that people will try and get away with with their archery equipment and firearms even when it is blatently obvious what happened.

Any way, I hope that your bow isn't damaged and good luck.

Barth 02-28-2006 07:09 AM

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Check and see if the limbs are ok but otherwise i wouldnt worry it should be fine get it checked out and you should be on your way. Make sure the cams are straight also.


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