cut on contact / 4 blade fixed.
#1
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Beavercreek Ohio
Posts: 212
cut on contact / 4 blade fixed.
I have been debating on what head to try next season , I am between magnus stinger or slick tricks, here is the question I have.
Is the better penatration of a cut on contact moreeffective or is the larger cuting area of a 4 blade more effective? I often hear that penetration is key but going with that theory a field point should be the best penetrator out there.
It seems that the lower amount of blade area the better penetration but the lower amount of damage it will cause on the way. On the other, the more blade the more drag and less penetration.
What are the opinions out there? thanks
Is the better penatration of a cut on contact moreeffective or is the larger cuting area of a 4 blade more effective? I often hear that penetration is key but going with that theory a field point should be the best penetrator out there.
It seems that the lower amount of blade area the better penetration but the lower amount of damage it will cause on the way. On the other, the more blade the more drag and less penetration.
What are the opinions out there? thanks
#2
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Flowery Branch Ga. 30542
Posts: 823
RE: cut on contact / 4 blade fixed.
your kinda worried about all the wrong things. either of the two you mentioned is more than capable of a pass through. What you have to do is your part, which is to put the arrow where it is supposed to be. if you don't know exactely where that is then you have some work to do. don't expect the broadhead to bail ya out when you make a mistake.
I found the magnus stingers to be easy to to in my setup and I had good luck with them. Never tried the slick trick so I can't comment.
I found the magnus stingers to be easy to to in my setup and I had good luck with them. Never tried the slick trick so I can't comment.
#3
RE: cut on contact / 4 blade fixed.
First off, what have you been using . . . and why do you want to change?
I've been thinking about going to a two blade like the Stingers only because I've heard they shoot closer to your field points than 3 or 4 blades. BUT! My bow guru indicates the 2 blade has it's own set of tuning problems. It's been my experience that the 2 blade penetrates deeper than a 3 or 4 shot from the exact same bow. But the 3 blade provides better "arrow" dynamics when lined up with your fletches.
I also used the NAP Spitfire mechanicals. They shot noticbly closer to the field points, but I never recovered anything I shot! I hunt Elk, Mulies, large animals. So I gave them away.
I wonder if there is an in depth study done somewhere on the internet?
I've been thinking about going to a two blade like the Stingers only because I've heard they shoot closer to your field points than 3 or 4 blades. BUT! My bow guru indicates the 2 blade has it's own set of tuning problems. It's been my experience that the 2 blade penetrates deeper than a 3 or 4 shot from the exact same bow. But the 3 blade provides better "arrow" dynamics when lined up with your fletches.
I also used the NAP Spitfire mechanicals. They shot noticbly closer to the field points, but I never recovered anything I shot! I hunt Elk, Mulies, large animals. So I gave them away.
I wonder if there is an in depth study done somewhere on the internet?
#4
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Flowery Branch Ga. 30542
Posts: 823
RE: cut on contact / 4 blade fixed.
I've done an in depth study and this is what I found out. If my shot placement is correct and where it should be all the broadheads work just fine. When my shot placement isn't good the reults vary widely depending on how bad the shot placement was.
with good shot placement all broadheads leave a good blood trail when the shot placement isn't so good the blood trails are not good either.
It's up to you to get good shot placement so the broadhead can work.
with good shot placement all broadheads leave a good blood trail when the shot placement isn't so good the blood trails are not good either.
It's up to you to get good shot placement so the broadhead can work.
#5
RE: cut on contact / 4 blade fixed.
I'll bite....I like the slick tricks because they fly like field points, have a 1" or 1 1/8 inch cutting diameter which is a good size for penetration, and have 4 blades for that little bit of extra cutting. They also have some of the thickest, sturdiest blades of any broadhead. I don't know if I trust mechanicals on deer - too many horror stories. With all else equal, I'd rather have a 4 blade than a 3 or 2 blade.
#6
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Springfield, OH
Posts: 364
RE: cut on contact / 4 blade fixed.
I hope this thread runs until we have covered them all. This will be my first year in the field and I want to get it right.
From what I’ve read so far, both mechanicals and fixed blades have both positives and negatives. I think Bees is right. Shot placement is the key. Matching that up with a tip that fly’s like a field point, penetrates well, and leaves a devastating whole should allow Mother Nature to take care of the rest.
So let’s hear it Pilgrims, what’s your tip choice and why.
From what I’ve read so far, both mechanicals and fixed blades have both positives and negatives. I think Bees is right. Shot placement is the key. Matching that up with a tip that fly’s like a field point, penetrates well, and leaves a devastating whole should allow Mother Nature to take care of the rest.
So let’s hear it Pilgrims, what’s your tip choice and why.
#7
RE: cut on contact / 4 blade fixed.
Another good looking 4blade is the new Muzzy MX-4. I like the short heads with 4 blades. If you break a blade on impact, you still have 3 left! Slick Trick blades are thicker than Muzzy's although both are great heads.
#8
RE: cut on contact / 4 blade fixed.
I used the magnus stingers last year with good sucess , nither the slicktrick or the muzzy are "cut on contact" heads , 2 blade heads work great allso and I personaly have had no tuneing issues with them , thru years of use . Your other cut on contact choices are , ziwicky , phantom by muzzy and steelfource , and some others Im sure Im missing . IMO lineing up blades with fletching is useless .
#9
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Beavercreek Ohio
Posts: 212
RE: cut on contact / 4 blade fixed.
In responce to Game 4 lunch, last year I shot wasp before that I shot muzzys. I have a pretty fast setup and would like my broad heads to hit exactly where my field points do. The muzzys and wasp were ok but not perfect, Ialso wantsomething that I could use on other animals besides deer also. Animals like wild hogs that are tough to take with a bow. I am would rather get one head and stick with it. I own several mech heads but have decided not to use them due to the problems that seem plauge them.