question about respect....
 

do y'all expect your friends and family to respect your honey hole(s)? and how do you handle it if they decide to move on in?
the reason i ask is that i hunt this place that i've found...been huntin' the same area for years...it's on public land so i know i don't have any real rights but i do expect my huntin' buddies to respect it...if i'm not huntin' it or not planning on huntin' there or if someone is having a crappy season then i'll share....i hunt there because everyone knows i'llbe there and they tend to stay out of the general area out of respect...it's where i'm at peace...if i see something or not it's where i love to be....now i'm fueding once again with someone because they have threatened to hunt it....they know i have a hunt the following week so i asked they stay out of the area but they threw a fit...i told them i'd be out there to scout if i couldn't hunt and then i was threatened...they said they'd get me for interferring with a hunt...even though it would be legal for me to be there...i just have to wait unitl 8am which i have no problem doing...i'm going just out of spike at this point.

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sounds like you need to get a new group of hunting friends. I have a very good friend that I have been hunting with for a number of years. We have a lease in northern MO but go to public ground in central MO if we don't have the time to travel the 4+hours to get to a lease.

We invited another friend to join us on the public ground hunt. After the first day my one friend and I discussed the amount of deer we saw, the direction they were coming from, etc... We were on two separate ridges coming off a corn field. We have a great relationship and scout together, set up multiple stands to hunt and discuss openly our hunting strategy. We are truly a good team and work well together.

The next day we broke for lunch and we going back to camp and the guy we invited was set up right in the middle of the draw that was between the 2ridges.

Needless tosay, we were both furious. He hasn't been invited back and we bothed learned not to discuss what we are seeing with anyone that we fear willruin our hunting experince.

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I also have my favorite spots that I try to save for Tyler ( son )and I. Most years everyone I hunt with willstayed out. This year they hammered a couple of spots with rifle. A first I was not happy about it, but after thinking about it... they had just as much right to hunt it as I did. They are not bowhunters even though one does try to hunt with a bow. :eek: :D They don't understand about not pressuring an area even though I have tried to tell them. It is easier letting them have their fun than getting into a heated agruement over it. It is a waste of my time.

It gives me a reason to find new honey holes should this happen again. Plus shouldTyler or Itake a deer out of these hammered areas with bow... we can feel an even greater acomplishment of taking pressured deer. A couple weeks ago Tyler hunted one of the spots and passed on a good130 class 4 pt at 12 yards. Tomorrow we are going to huntanother oneof these spots.

I do believe a guy should respect other's spots especially if they are bowhunters. I also believe in treating someone as they have treated me.The gloves are off with the wannabe bowhunter in our group. He ismore territorialthen me. Might just have to see how he likes me hunting his spots!!I suppose you could call it a lesson in respecting others. ;) :D

Best advice is to find a couple new honey holes and don't tell anyone.

Tim

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I'd talk to all the friends and family in your circle and let them know what's going on. Sometimes it takes everyone in the groupganging up on a butthead to get them to see the light.

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Is it someone we know?:D

Someone who still hasn't gotten her first deer with a bow yet?:(

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TJF when you say 4 pt you mean an 4x4 like an 8 pt right? because if you mean 2x2 4 pt that thing would be huge!! :D:D

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Rule #1: they don't call it public land for nothing.
Rule #2: treat your fellow hunters as you would like to be treated.
In the event of a dispute, see #1 -And keep a honey hole or two to yourself.

Fortunately for me,most of my fellow huntersthat hunt the same public land (a military base) follow #2. It's nice to be able to share an adventure or two, and not worry if you'll find someone in your tree the next time out...consequently, the clique I hang with shares information freely - much of which just gets filed away.

From the other side of the coin: My bowhunting partner got permission to hunt from a localfarmer, and in his first time out he had unknowningly set up near a pet spot of someone else. The guy walked in, saw my friend, blew a fuse, and left swearing a blue streak up and down, noteven talking to my friend. The guy then droveback into the fieldin his pickup truck - just to throwa tree stand in the bed (twice), and left spinning his tires.My partner, one of the nicest guys you'd ever want to share the woods with, never had the chance to say anything to this idiotic nut case - and henever went back to the farm.
-fsh

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Your a baaaaaaaad boy BF:D.
Hope you can work it out huntress.

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i go through this EVERY YEAR....this deer season was the FIRST season since i found the place about 7yrs ago....who it is really isn't important...actuallyit is but the name of the person isn't....and i REFUSE to find a new place because i am the one who found this place and then like an idiot shared it...this place isn't full of critters but i have managed to take some nice critters from there....i hunt it because it's where i feel at home...it's where i'm at complete peace....i also hunt there in order to avoid huntin' close to my other huntin' buddies...out of respect.....like i said i know it's public land and that i really don't have any real rights to it...but it's a respect thing at this point....what's even more bewildering is that this person respects everyone else's spots and is usually very ethical...they are perfectly capable of finding good areas on their own....they even had a better season than i did this year.....guess i just don't understand how someone who demands the respect of others can't show respect back...is it a respect issue or an ethics issue??

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Respect? Ethics? I think the word "character" defines it better. "Class" is another word that comes to mind. I think the person in question is a little light in both areas. Whoever it is certainly doesn't give a flip about you,your feelings or your friendship. Seems to be a narcissistic boor who thinks the world revolves around him. Hmmm... It's not Jackie Bushman is it.?? [:-];)[8D]

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I also had a great spot with no one elsehunting it for years, well until this year and even though it pissed me off to no end I held back from saying anything. For one thing I like everyone to have a good time hunting and where it's not my land I don't make the rules.

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If they're supposed to be your friends and they know the place simply because you shared, then they simply arent friends. I would not use a friends spot without being invited and would expect the same from my friends. PERIOD!

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so how would handle the situation? keep in mind that the person in question is not someone that i can just push aside.

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fl.huntress - Ihear your pain.Since you've already discussed the situation with him without civil resoluton, your options are limited.

Here's a suggestion of last resort:If someone is using the "it's public land" argument and that you (correctly) do not have exclusive rights to it, turn the tables on him.Load up the area with your trusted friends who understandyour situation and are willing to give up some hunting days. Whenandif (??) the lowbrowgets the message, your friends will return it to you in peace... Bear in mindthe lowbrow could do the same, a lose-lose situation.

If the situation does not resolve peacefully, then either be willing to share it or find a new spot, and remember the lesson.

I have lost treasured spots in the past (i.e. new landowner stops all hunting), leaving mebetter motivatedto discover new treasures. I now have access to more land than I can properly hunt, just in case...

-fsh

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judging from your handle you're a woman. is this person respecting other men in your groups areas and not yours because the person doesn't respect women in general?

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I deal with the same thing.But usually a skitter sovles the problem for us.It's hard to fight over a clearcut;).I agree with gut check.Find a new group of friends.Next time don't let anyone know where your spot is.Unless you have to retrieve game,and then I would just get your husband to help you.I mean atleast one person needs to know your spotincase something were to happen.Who else would you trust?There's really nothing else you can do.If you have to ask them to stay away from your spot,then you need to ditch them.I don't mind helping people,but I can't stand it when someone goes behind me,and hunts my spots.

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4x4... We useWestern Count. Should really use eastern count on the forums since most use it...but anold dog learning new tricks comes to mind. Course the wife says I am just stubborn. :eek: [:'(] If we had a 130 Classforky running around... Tyler better not be passing on him!!! :D :D

Tim

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Communication;). And more communication.

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My family owns 300 acres in Central Wi and we have many stands, theres only 3 of us that bow hunt it some times 4 or 5. But we all respect eachothers stands. We all chip in to help one another find a location and hang stands. If someone asks the others to not hunt it, it wont get hunted in respect to the others request. But if nothing is said we ask the other person or owner of the stand if it is ok to hunt it, if one of our stands are burnt out. If they say no, we respect that or if they say yes and a deer is harvested, that deer is devided between the two hunters. But really we have enough stands in many locations that noone really has a problem with sharing or moving from stand to stand. Ive never really hunted much county land so I cant really say what you should do, I know if I were your friends I would respect your decission.

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This is a two part response.

First, if you friend does not respect the fact that this has been your honey hole for years, then he is not a good friend. If the two of you found it and scouted it together that is one thing but if it was yours exclusively and he is now moving in, that is just a lack of respect or character as Arthur suggested.

Secondly, you said it's on public land so your right, you have no rights to it. Even if your friend does not hunt it, you have no idea who is. Someone else may think they are guarding it for themselves and being careful not to leave sign that you will see. A friend of mine said something when we found a nice spot on Federal land. "You can bet that if we found it, twenty other people know about it also." I was hunting it on Friday and another hunter walked within 60 yards of me before he saw me waving my arms.

I wouldn't scout it while they were hunting there just to screw up their chances. That will only escalate an already bad situation. Who knows what kind of retribution they will come up with. Just chalk it up to a learning experience on who your true friends are.

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I would just set up about 75 yrds up the trail and pick off the deer before it gets to them:D

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Moving in on your sweet spot is just wrong on many levels.
I hunt with 4 other guys,all friends,none of us would even think about doing that without asking each other first.
All of the stands we have belong to two of us,me and my main hunting partner Larry.
We set them up, the other two have helped with only a couple of them.
The stands are known to us as Dave's,Larry's,Jason's and Chris' stands.

That's just the way it is with us.
It has worked well for us.