OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
10-08-2002, 05:41 PM
#12
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bridge City TX S.E.Texas
Posts: 139
RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
BOWFANATIC, I guess it could be scent related but at times I could sense the very moment they recognized me as dangerous, many times it happened the moment we made eye contact. I guess it's kinda like spraying fish attractant on your fishing lure and getting a bite. Can't really prove whether it wouldn't have happened anyway, all we have is our instincts and common sense to make the judgement you know..Thanks for the friendly debate anyway..Good Luck..Fletch
Good Luck All....Fletch
Good Luck All....Fletch
10-08-2002, 05:44 PM
#13
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Stockton NJ USA
Posts: 119
RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
There was a time when many hunters did not wear camoflage because "deer are color blind". We all wore jeans and a green or gray flanel shirt. The only thing everyone did was paint your bow with brown paint because the finish glare would scare the deer.
(No one knew about scent control either. Take a shower. Bring your coffee and roll, cigarettes to the stand. Pee wherever and whenever.)
(No one knew about scent control either. Take a shower. Bring your coffee and roll, cigarettes to the stand. Pee wherever and whenever.)
10-08-2002, 06:46 PM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: cazenovia, NY USA
Posts: 2,973
RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
"I know its a buck track, because I can see the dew claws imprint, and only bucks leave this sign." (Very false - all deer can leave this imprint in snow or soft mud, or when running)
Or "its got to be a buck track because its splayed" (also usually false - sure heavier deer tend to leave splayed prints, but all deer can and do when running or turning sharply)
or "its a buck track because its dragging its feet in the snow" (usually false - all deer will drag their feet in snow more than a couple inches - there is some truth that a foot dragging gait, in snow less than 1" could be a buck.)
I've always said -"the only way to be sure if a track is a buck or doe, is to observe the animal making the track" - period. There are no hardfast rules regarding identifying buck tracks, its just too difficult - with too many variables.
That being said, I do give special consideration to LARGE tracks that are wider then 2". While not foolproof, its usually an indication of a mature deer (doe or buck) both of which are wary animals. A confirmed mature deer track regardless of the sex of the deer that made it, indicates that something about where that deer traveled made it feel secure enough to be there. If other sign (rubs, scrapes, etc) indicate that a buck(s) are using the area, I will rely on the Mature deer track, to help me locate my stand.
Or "its got to be a buck track because its splayed" (also usually false - sure heavier deer tend to leave splayed prints, but all deer can and do when running or turning sharply)
or "its a buck track because its dragging its feet in the snow" (usually false - all deer will drag their feet in snow more than a couple inches - there is some truth that a foot dragging gait, in snow less than 1" could be a buck.)
I've always said -"the only way to be sure if a track is a buck or doe, is to observe the animal making the track" - period. There are no hardfast rules regarding identifying buck tracks, its just too difficult - with too many variables.
That being said, I do give special consideration to LARGE tracks that are wider then 2". While not foolproof, its usually an indication of a mature deer (doe or buck) both of which are wary animals. A confirmed mature deer track regardless of the sex of the deer that made it, indicates that something about where that deer traveled made it feel secure enough to be there. If other sign (rubs, scrapes, etc) indicate that a buck(s) are using the area, I will rely on the Mature deer track, to help me locate my stand.
10-08-2002, 06:50 PM
#15
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 9,085
RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
i believe that deer crap method and havent been proved wrong....and i will always squeeze some out when gutting them and until im proved wrong i believe it...i dont see how you can look out a window long enough to watch a deer do its buiesness then run out there and play with it!! i dont think id watch out the window all day to watch a deer crap in my field...then run and play with it!!! but if you do thats great u proved me wrong if you can really find the pile of crap that the deer u watched for hours laid in your field....
the one i like is if you kill an albino you will never see another deer agian...i wonder if its true...if it is i hope to find out becuase if i ever see one and its legal its getting dropped...
the one i like is if you kill an albino you will never see another deer agian...i wonder if its true...if it is i hope to find out becuase if i ever see one and its legal its getting dropped...
10-08-2002, 06:54 PM
#16
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Altoona WI United States
Posts: 34
RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
A few I remember my grandpa saying...
"If a squirrel runs across the road,the fish are biting"
"If smoke comes out of the chimney and goes right to the ground it is going to rain"
"It's best to fish/hunt during a falling,steady,or rising barometer"
"If smoke from the chimney goes straight up,it isn't windy"
"Red in the morning,hunters take warning"
"Red at night means hunters delight"
My grandpa was an avid outdoorsman,and I began to notice over the years he made things up so no matter what the weather,moon phase,or whatever it was always the "best time" to hunt or fish.I try to live by those same basic ideas.
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"If a squirrel runs across the road,the fish are biting"
"If smoke comes out of the chimney and goes right to the ground it is going to rain"
"It's best to fish/hunt during a falling,steady,or rising barometer"
"If smoke from the chimney goes straight up,it isn't windy"
"Red in the morning,hunters take warning"
"Red at night means hunters delight"
My grandpa was an avid outdoorsman,and I began to notice over the years he made things up so no matter what the weather,moon phase,or whatever it was always the "best time" to hunt or fish.I try to live by those same basic ideas.
Visit me at www.ATVTime.com!
10-08-2002, 07:28 PM
#17
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Brookport IL now in Colorado
Posts: 174
RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
" You need to bleed em out " What the heck did that broadhead through the vitals just do? It is not only ridiculous it is my worst nightmare as a taxidermist.
" If it would cool off the deer would start rutting " The rut is triggered by the amount of daylight hitting a does eyes which in turn triggers chemical reactions in her body to cause her to go into estrous.
"That buck is in full rut, just look at his neck" A buck is capable of breeding a doe at any point when he loses his velvet as his hormone levels increas he becomes more interested,but It is the doe that enters estrous and actually "goes into full rut". That buck's neck is swolen due to the work over he has been giving every thing he can with his rack.
" If it would cool off the deer would start rutting " The rut is triggered by the amount of daylight hitting a does eyes which in turn triggers chemical reactions in her body to cause her to go into estrous.
"That buck is in full rut, just look at his neck" A buck is capable of breeding a doe at any point when he loses his velvet as his hormone levels increas he becomes more interested,but It is the doe that enters estrous and actually "goes into full rut". That buck's neck is swolen due to the work over he has been giving every thing he can with his rack.
10-08-2002, 11:04 PM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Heaven IA USA
Posts: 2,597
RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
Little bucks don't rub big trees....I have witnessed the contrary.
I know I will catch a lot of flack for this one but the theory of wounded bucks always heading for water simply is not accurate. In the many tracking jobs I have done over the years, more often than not the location of water played no role in finding the animal.
I know I will catch a lot of flack for this one but the theory of wounded bucks always heading for water simply is not accurate. In the many tracking jobs I have done over the years, more often than not the location of water played no role in finding the animal.
10-08-2002, 11:35 PM
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 3,903
RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
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Little bucks don't rub big trees....I have witnessed the contrary.
I know I will catch a lot of flack for this one but the theory of wounded bucks always heading for water simply is not accurate. In the many tracking jobs I have done over the years, more often than not the location of water played no role in finding the animal.
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I would agree with you on wounded deer in general , but the rule I've gone by is gut-shot deer head for water and in my experience (twice helped buddy and father in-law) it has a 100% success ratio.
Little bucks don't rub big trees....I have witnessed the contrary.
I know I will catch a lot of flack for this one but the theory of wounded bucks always heading for water simply is not accurate. In the many tracking jobs I have done over the years, more often than not the location of water played no role in finding the animal.
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I would agree with you on wounded deer in general , but the rule I've gone by is gut-shot deer head for water and in my experience (twice helped buddy and father in-law) it has a 100% success ratio.