OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
10-09-2002 | 09:10 AM
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Hey Stealthycat...sorry man but Grandma was right...hot water does freeze faster than cold water...read below.
"The fact that hot water freezes faster than cold has been known for many centuries. The earliest reference to this phenomenon dates back to Aristotle in 300 B.C. The phenomenon was later discussed in the medieval era, as European physicists struggled to come up with a theory of heat. But by the 20th century the phenomenon was only known as common folklore, until it was reintroduced to the scientific community in 1969 by Mpemba, a Tanzanian high school student. Since then, numerous experiments have confirmed the existence of the "Mpemba effect," but have not settled on any single explanation."
"The fact that hot water freezes faster than cold has been known for many centuries. The earliest reference to this phenomenon dates back to Aristotle in 300 B.C. The phenomenon was later discussed in the medieval era, as European physicists struggled to come up with a theory of heat. But by the 20th century the phenomenon was only known as common folklore, until it was reintroduced to the scientific community in 1969 by Mpemba, a Tanzanian high school student. Since then, numerous experiments have confirmed the existence of the "Mpemba effect," but have not settled on any single explanation."
10-09-2002 | 09:10 AM
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RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
Hey Stealthycat...sorry man but Grandma was right...hot water does freeze faster than cold water...read below.
"The fact that hot water freezes faster than cold has been known for many centuries. The earliest reference to this phenomenon dates back to Aristotle in 300 B.C. The phenomenon was later discussed in the medieval era, as European physicists struggled to come up with a theory of heat. But by the 20th century the phenomenon was only known as common folklore, until it was reintroduced to the scientific community in 1969 by Mpemba, a Tanzanian high school student. Since then, numerous experiments have confirmed the existence of the "Mpemba effect," but have not settled on any single explanation."
"The fact that hot water freezes faster than cold has been known for many centuries. The earliest reference to this phenomenon dates back to Aristotle in 300 B.C. The phenomenon was later discussed in the medieval era, as European physicists struggled to come up with a theory of heat. But by the 20th century the phenomenon was only known as common folklore, until it was reintroduced to the scientific community in 1969 by Mpemba, a Tanzanian high school student. Since then, numerous experiments have confirmed the existence of the "Mpemba effect," but have not settled on any single explanation."
10-09-2002 | 12:40 PM
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RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
grandma was wrong. Hot water dropps in temperature faster, because it has farther to go. it does not freeze faster. The Water must go thru several phases. as it get's colder, it dropps to the bottom of the container, then when it freezes it becomes less dense (expands)and rises to the top and crystalizes. the loss of heat is the loss of energy. the loss of energy is going to be greater in a body that has more energy. but a body of water with less energy is going to achieve a state of "frozen" faster than one with higher energy....provided all other factors are the same.
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10-09-2002 | 01:18 PM
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10-09-2002 | 01:52 PM
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wolfen,
Don't take this the wrong way because you know you're still my hero<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> But I have tested this hypothesis myself(not saying that I was completely sober) but I found that in every situation that the cooler water froze first. Now I didn't try a wide range of cool vs. warm temperatures but with all of the ones I tried the cool water froze first. Of course I am an unedjumacated redneck. I assume from the experiments that I have been done that it is a possibility but it is the exception rather than the rule.
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Don't take this the wrong way because you know you're still my hero<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> But I have tested this hypothesis myself(not saying that I was completely sober) but I found that in every situation that the cooler water froze first. Now I didn't try a wide range of cool vs. warm temperatures but with all of the ones I tried the cool water froze first. Of course I am an unedjumacated redneck. I assume from the experiments that I have been done that it is a possibility but it is the exception rather than the rule.
Protect your hunting rights, "Spay or neuter a liberal."
10-09-2002 | 01:56 PM
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AntlerEater
I think BOWFANATIC is right on about the wounded deer seeking water. (I'm hessitant to say that cause he beat me up pretty bad on that "eye" thing) I think a doublelunger is sprinting for his life and could care less. When a deer lives long enough to "think about it", and water is nearby, you had better check it!!!...
HuntingBry
I remember seeing an interview with Ted Nugent one time and he said that he drinks lots of applejuice in preparation for an upcoming hunt. He claims he will go out of his way to pee by his stand and thinks the applePEE is an atractant...To each his own I guess..
Good Luck All....Fletch
I think BOWFANATIC is right on about the wounded deer seeking water. (I'm hessitant to say that cause he beat me up pretty bad on that "eye" thing) I think a doublelunger is sprinting for his life and could care less. When a deer lives long enough to "think about it", and water is nearby, you had better check it!!!...
HuntingBry
I remember seeing an interview with Ted Nugent one time and he said that he drinks lots of applejuice in preparation for an upcoming hunt. He claims he will go out of his way to pee by his stand and thinks the applePEE is an atractant...To each his own I guess..
Good Luck All....Fletch
10-09-2002 | 02:01 PM
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How bout this one...
I've know a guy who stops eating meat when preparing for a hunt. He claims the reason deer smell us so strongly is because of their natural fear of "meateaters". Claims deer can smell if you've been eating meat....WOW...What next...
Good Luck All....Fletch
I've know a guy who stops eating meat when preparing for a hunt. He claims the reason deer smell us so strongly is because of their natural fear of "meateaters". Claims deer can smell if you've been eating meat....WOW...What next...
Good Luck All....Fletch
10-09-2002 | 03:15 PM
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Fletchdp, I am not refering to a mortally wounded deer (as in a double lunger). I have trailed many liver hit and a few gut shot animals that never sought out water though it was obviously available. I am aware of the fever theory when a deer is wounded, but my experience has not shown me that it is true even half of the time. Everyone has a right to their opinion and I wouldn't argue with anyone over such a trivial matter. I am simply stating what my experience has been. 