Why Not Take a Shot at 60+ yards?
 

While I never would, a guy (rfb45colt) at another forum seems to think it's a piece of cake. In addition to being a bowhunting freak, I also like Glocks a lot. The glock forum I subscribe to also has a hunting forum that you can post to. Read the thread and tell me what your thoughts are. Why not take a shot at 60+ yards if you're completely confident in your ability to be accurate at that distance?
http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread....hreadid=104440

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I do well on the 3-D range at 50, 60, and even 70 yards but feel I owe any animal I am shooting at respect and a CLEAN, QUICK KILLING SHOT. Animals have jumped my strings at all distances both with and without string silencers. In the Pacific Northwest shots greater than 50 yards are extremely rare. How many times have we or others taken a clean shot at an animal at a reasonable distance only to have a gust of wind or unseen twig deflect the arrow.

There are many that would take these long shots . . . I personally think it is unwise.

Bowhunter

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You might be able to hit a target at 60 yards,but they dont hear and move.To much chance the deer will move before the arrow arrives.That is my opinion anyway

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i shot a 6 pointer last year in the lungs at 50 yards killed him with in 2 mins ... and in 99 i shot another 6 pointer in the liver about 45-50 killed him..... but i'll tell u this if it is tord the end of bow season and i still have my tags i am shooting ....







al bowmansville ny

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I use a recurve so i myself wont attempt a shot over 40 yard's, If I see one out that far I try a stalk to get in range, We as sportsman owe the animal we are hunting a good shot to take not a risky one

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The guy is either extremely confident in his ability, or full of hot air. Saying he can shoot 2 pins out to 70 yards? I'm sure it can be done, but that is definitely pushing the limits when shooting at game IMO. I would tend to say that at those long distances most guys are going to lose as many (if not more) deer than they find. He states at 300fps his arrow will get to 40 yards in 4/10ths of a second. That may be the case if his arrow is still flying 300 at 40 yards but that isn't what happens. I bet it takes much longer than that and i'm sure with the right ballistics info someone could figure it out. But, if the guy wants to shoot that distance then more power to him I guess, it's just not for me. I prefer to keep the odds for a quick, clean kill in my favor.

--Man who fish in other man's well often catch crabs--

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Perfect conditions rarely exist when taking a shot at an animal, especially when you talk about that kind of distance. Target shooting conditions normally contribute to a persons ability to make extremely long shots. With my compound I can shoot fair groups out to 60yds, but I have enough sense to know that is way beyond my effective kill range. Even when the shot conditions are great, I am not in the same state of mind when about to shoot at an animal as when I am shooting a target. Although some guys can make those kind of shots, most guys who talk that kind of game rarely have enough experience bow hunting to know how full of bull they appear just by making those kind of statements.

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Exactly, Hobbes! What's the old saying? Better to remain quiet and thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt? <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Sort of like the wealthiest guys I get to hang around never talk about their money. I've never seen a wealthy guy with status, but lots of &quot;wannabes&quot; with all kinds. Kinda reveals their hand without them even knowing it. Same thing here.

Discipline -- not desire -- determines destiny.

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My question is, while being able to shoot accuratly out to that distance, can you see everything within the arrows path? I've had twigs half the size of a pencil deflect an arrow, 10 yds from a target.

Now, can anyone say that their eyesight is good enough to see these kind of twigs (in low light conditions) out to 60 yds? My thoughts are &quot;no&quot;!!!!

Keep it short, keep it quick.

Jim.

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Why would anyone want to? I practice at 50 and 60 yrds and have a good pattern and feel confident on the 3D range, but for me it's about GETTING CLOSE. Now I love to eat venison, but I'm content to grunt, rattle, bleat, cry, beg and plead to get a buck to close the distance. If not I watch; I Move my stand next time or stalk him down. Seems too many uncontrolled variables. Same way I would never try a head shot on a Whitetail no matter how close. It's about percentages.

ChefKell

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I don't know the exact science of it but I know that the fasted recorded start from a gun in the Olympic 100M was a British Guy called Linford Christie. He was clocked at 0.089 seconds response time to the starting pistol. In reality a deer can react many times faster than that. A deer can drop 16 inches when you take a 30 yard shot, so double it and you are talkin a big margin of error.

X-Pat Brit Livin the good life in NC

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My biggest concern would be penetration (I've had many people tell me that!). Let's say the 60 yd shot did hit the deer in the vitals, what if he hit a rib? It probably wouldn't go through the rib and still get in to the lungs or heart. There's just a very slim chance that everything will go right and im my opinion would be a poor shot.

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I wouldn't think penetration would be an issue if you are shooting a reasonable draw weight. I shoot 73 pounds and don't see a huge difference from 40 to 60 yards. But I agree, your chances of everything going right decreases with the longer the shot. I think its all down to personal choice on this one. If you had 1 too many scoops the night before and got a bit of a bad head then you should should take a closer shot as you are not at 100%. One point besides the ethics is that the cleaner the kill the less time you spend tracking and the better the meat.

BTB


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Siskyou

I understand your point but where did the value of 1 second come from ?




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A shot from that far is just too unpredictable and in my opinion shows a complete lack of respect for the fine animals we hunt.

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I agree with the others it is just too risky. Too many things can happen at that distance. Heck it happens at 20 yards so going out to 70 just multiplies things ten fold so to speak.

Brian

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I have had P&Y bucks 5 yards away, but I didn't shoot, he was facing me. I have had them 40 yards broadside feeding, but I didn't shoot. Does at 20 running, walking, standing, but for some reason I didn't shoot. Why? If theres something that will go wrong a 5 yards, there is 12x the things that will go wrong at 60. Anyway, I only shoot out to 30.
God Bless America
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I will never attempt anything over 30yds. I shot quite a few deer in my lifetime and the average yard shot was probably 15yds. I can shoot well over 50yds at a target, but when it comes to moving wildlife I deffinetly wont shoot over 30yds in the woods.

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Why take a chancey shot a 60 when you can try a stalk for a better shot at 20 or 10?

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NYBOWHUNTER11 stated it took 2 mins. to kill a lung hit deer and 45-50 to kill a liver hit deer. Unbelieveable! My double lung deer or hogs are down in 10-15 seconds and out within 30 seconds. I've seen a number of them drop and watched their last kick. Is anyone out there satisfied with a deer living almost an hour after the hit? And this guy will fling arrows at 60 yards if he has a tag. Unbelievable!

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I know if I keep seeing deer out of range of an ethical kill I will have a stand set up nearby ready for the next hunt. It takes 15 seconds for the oxygen in the blood to be burned up. I would rather have a tag left than have a deer painfully bleed to death bedded up somewhere where you don't have a chance of finding it.

X-Pat Brit Livin the good life in NC

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Ok first off shooting at a 3-d target at 60 yards is much easier then taking a 10 yard shot at a 12 pt. buck or any deer period. Second The question isn't why not take a shot at 60 yards..... But why??? Why the heck would a person take a shot at 60???? You have no anchor point to aim your pin at, it's just a guess. Unless you have one of those bow scopes, which are illegal in my state and completely dumb. There is no need for a bow scope and no need to take a shot at 60 yards. Anybody that does is not my friend and not a hunter and out of his or her frickin mind. It's also unethical. These types of hunters are what gives us good dedicated hunters a bad name. I am not gonna waste my time and effort on discussing with people and convincing them that I am still a good person all because some idiot decides to take a 60 yard shot and end up wounding the deer and or something or someone else. Just venting a little..... Goodluck be safe and as always

Knuckles up&gt;&gt;&gt; Brian

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I've got an Antelope on the wall that I shot in Montana back in 91 from about 60 yards. I had practiced and felt VERY confident out to 45 since I was hunting Elk in the breaks area. I bought the Speed goat tag because I like the meat. As we were hunting that week they were going out about 55 - 60 yards and turning broadside to watch. So I set a target at 70 sighted a pins for reference and when the goat turned broadside later the next day I took him.
Here in Ohio 35-40 is absolute max for me regardless as it is tougher finding a deer in the brush/woods than on a sage flat.

Again I had spent quite a bit of time practicing out to about 50 yards as I knew I was hunting pretty open country so it wasn't much of a strech going the extra 10 at that time.


Greg

&quot;Getting close to the game is the joy of Bowhunting for me, the harvest is a bonus.&quot;

Live 15 ft Python after eating a small Antelope!

RE: Why Not Take a Shot at 60+ yards?
 

I assume everyone shooting at 60 yards is using a quality range finder. The difference between 60 and 63 yards would probably mean a miss. A lot of luck would be involved with a good hit.