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jminon 09-26-2005 06:50 PM

ARE YEARLINGS AFFECTED??
 
WHEN A DOE WITH YEARLINGS IS HARVESTED...IS THERE ANY AFFECT ON THE SURVIVAL RATE OF THE YEARLINGS STILL HANGIN AROUND W/ MOM???
HAS THERE BEEN RESEARCH ON THE SUBJECT??? ARE THERE ANY STATISTICS PROOVING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER??
BY THE WAY, THIS IS MY 1ST POST ON HERE....HOPE TO LEARN ALOT AND LAUGH ALONG THE WAY!!!!


Finch 09-26-2005 07:02 PM

RE: ARE YEARLINGS AFFECTED??
 
I have heard that other does "adopt" the orphaned yearlings. I know Ive seen a doe with three yearlings before which seems to be uncommmon.

MO_Bowhnter 09-26-2005 07:03 PM

RE: ARE YEARLINGS AFFECTED??
 
I had momma and babies come under my stand over the weekend. They still had a few spots. I let them walk. I don't know how they do without mom but I don't really want to take a chance on one being a buck fawn and then not making it.

By the way, welcome!!

TROPHY SEEKER 09-26-2005 07:05 PM

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Welcome. No, yearlings are plenty cabable of fending for themselves at this age. However, they will be at a higher risk from predators until they adjust to "normal" livinig without mom always on the lookout. Good luck hunting!

heeze gutshot shortee 09-27-2005 06:05 AM

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ITS SURVIVE OR DIE...EAT or BE EATEN... NATURES WAY

njbuck22 09-27-2005 06:24 AM

RE: ARE YEARLINGS AFFECTED??
 
As long as the yearlings do not have spots, they will be able to survie just fine. I harvested a doe on opening morning this year that had2 yearlings with her and i have seen them around a bunch since them. If the still have spots, let her walk.

huntinwv 09-27-2005 06:46 AM

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Welcome.

Not sure. We have two fawns, that had spots 2 weeks ago, that has been without there momma for some time now. The only bad thing is they seem to be unafraid of humans. May led to yotes killing them. Dunno?

turtleshell 09-27-2005 06:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: njbuck22

As long as the yearlings do not have spots, they will be able to survie just fine. I harvested a doe on opening morning this year that had2 yearlings with her and i have seen them around a bunch since them. If the still have spots, let her walk.
You cold blooded killer! Good job:DI had a doe with her fawn around one of my stands last year. I saw them almost every time.I watched the fawn with spots turn into a yearling w/out spots. Could've taken mom a couple of time when junior had spots but just couldn't bring myself to do it. (old softie I guess) But later after the fawn had grown up some I decided if the mom presented a shot I'd take it. Well she never did of course. Oh well. But I agree that if the fawn is out of its spots it should be okay.

RiverBottomBowHunter 09-27-2005 06:59 AM

RE: ARE YEARLINGS AFFECTED??
 
At a seminar that stan potts and the kisky's were speaking at one of them kind of talked about this. They said that when you shoot a doe that has a buck fawn with her the buck is more likely to adopt that area as his home range, were as normally the doe would run off the young buck come breeding season.

Booney160 09-27-2005 07:17 AM

RE: ARE YEARLINGS AFFECTED??
 
I agree with the idea that if you harvest a doe with a buck fawn that buck fawn is more likely to adopt the area as it's home area. I've harvested a quite a few does with fawns early in the bow season, I just notice that the fawns tend to travel less. I try to take a doe with two buck fawns, in past the fawns tend to stay on our land, where they are safe since we're not going to shoot fawns. Fawns are able to survive on their own come hunting season, I heard once that does will leave fawns on their own for up to 18 hours at a time. If they can be left for 18 hours at a time, they can make it on their own IMO.

Paul

dirz1 09-27-2005 07:29 AM

RE: ARE YEARLINGS AFFECTED??
 
This is really a great question. I've always wondered this myself. I can't bring myself to shoot a doe with a fawn with her. My dad on the other hand is the complete opposite.I think as long as thetheory that other does adopt the fawn, then I believe it will make it.

PABowhntr 09-27-2005 07:31 AM

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From what I have read and gathered from various sources, no, shooting the doe does not affect the likelihood of the fawns dieing prematurely. I believe that fawns are born when they are because of the potential for them to be able to survive the upcoming winter. I would think there was some correlation between that and having to fend for themselves.

Critr-Gitr 09-27-2005 08:47 AM

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My youngest son (9 yrs) shot a doe with two button fawns last year. Saw them (the two Bucks) a couple of weeks ago and now one is a six and one is an eight. They will be safe from us and the neighbors for at least one more year. But to answer the question they will be fine and for the bucks it does make them more likely to stay in the same area. Come breeding season mommas gonna run those babies off if they are bucks. Its natures way of limiting inbreeding by making the bucks disperse.

dangolbowhunter 09-27-2005 09:09 AM

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I took a doe from its yearling(no spots) the other day and I couldn't help but to feel compassion for the little guy. Athough, yearlings have been well equiped by mother nature to take care ofthemselves in the event they lose their mother. Psychologically, I think it may have an effect. I saw a study on elephants whereyoung bulls that lost their mothers too early, mainly bypoachers,were much more aggresiveand unpredictable. I don't know how this would relate to deer, but I'm sure it wouldhave some effect.
I'll ponder on this question some more
as I grill up these tasty deer loins.;):D

Thundergut 09-27-2005 09:16 AM

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I will shoot the doe with no qualms. If the surviving young does continue to come around as the year goes on, I will shoot them too. I have the tags and can not get enough deer meat.


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