Question about scent control with ATV's
 

Do you guys that use an ATV to get to your hunting area have a problem with getting exhaust or maybe even fuel smell on you while riding to your stand?

I always fill up the truck and the 4 wheeler at least a couple of days in advance of a hunting trip to keep from contaminating my hunting clothes with diesel & gas fumes but what about while riding to your hunting area, especially on those colder mornings when you may have to idle it for a minute or so to warm it up.

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Buy sentloc camos put it in your backpack and put it on when you get there or at least a fresh pair of camos.

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LEAVE THEM DAMN ATV's AT HOME

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It's either that or a Ford Powerstroke diesel coming through the woods. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> I'm on a private lease anyway and it's about 1.5 miles from my campsite to my hunting site.

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Well trapper I have a medical release to use mine to
get out so I can hunt Mike I have never had a problem
with fumes I do like you do and leave mine about 100yds
from where I hunt it hasnt seem to be a problem yet!

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Scent control, noise control and annoying the hell out of other hunters can be avoided by leaving the ATV's at home. I have walked up to seven miles in mountainous West Virginia to a stand location. If you are a dedicated hunter you will put the effort into getting on stand. ATV's have a place but its not in the whitetail woods.

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Scent control, noise control and annoying the hell out of other hunters can be avoided by leaving the ATV's at home. I have walked up to seven miles in mountainous West Virginia to a stand location. If you are a dedicated hunter you will put the effort into getting on stand. ATV's have a place but its not in the whitetail woods.
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I bought my ATV with for the purpose of getting me, my gear, and whatever I need to get in and out of the woods. I respect other hunters when I'm on my ATV. I don't just go ambling off into the woods around other people stands and such. I've spent my share of time on foot and now I don't have to. If you choose to hike 7 miles into where you want to hunt, good for you. I choose not to. I can assure you I'm about as dedicated to hunting as anyone, so I'd appreciate it if you don't come on here passing judgement on somebody you don't even know. If the whitetail woods are not a place for ATV's then there would not me such a massive demand for them. I was asking a legitimate question and if you don't have anything better to offer other than &quot;leave the ATV's at home&quot; then don't bother replying.

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If you are respectful to hunters and the environment I guess you don't have anything to worry about. The land I hunt is ridden with trash and four wheeler trails. When I started hunting it was pretty much unaffected by human trafic. It is just sad that no matter how far you walk these days you can't escape litter. I too own a four wheeler but can't enjoy hunting and the outdoors when everything flys by at 20 miles per hour. It seems to me that the end result is a dead animal not a good hunting experience. Alot can happen from the truck/camp to your hunting location.

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The main thing I use my 4 wheeler for is strictly to get me and all of my gear from camp to withing a couple hundred yards from my stand. I don't drive right up to my stand and park it just so I don't have to walk in. It certainly makes it much easier to get your deer back to camp as well. We have a standing rule where I hunt anyway. During deer season, the ATV's go strictly to and from the stand, it is not a free for all to go riding around wherever you please. As I said I respect the area of other hunters and would not just go blasting by their stand to interrupt their hunting. I know it would hack me off if someone did it to me so I don't do it to others.

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I AGREE WITH TEXASTRACKER I PUT MY SCENTLOK ON AFTER I GET OFF 4 WHEELER GOODLUCK

HUNT HARD

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Mike, please ignore these guys who having nothing better to do than harass people. I would ask you to excuse them but their terrible adittudes and manners are unexusable, in my opinion. Wvarcher, I can understand your feelings about the litter and such but I've never seen an ATV throw down a beer can, nor have I seen an ATV blaze a trail on it's own. Blame the person controlling it, not the vehicle. Also, 90%(maybe more) of the people who ride an ATV do not fit into that description. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry, you hunt around a different crowd of people than I do.

Back to your question Mike. We own and lease close to 800 acres, so always walking is out of the question for me to. I ride my 4-wheeler but I try not to park within 300-400 yrds of my stand, most of the time even further. I do take my 4-wheeler closer if I'm taking in stands or such. I also think the deer can hear them coming and eventually will associate humans(danger) with them; that is almost unavoidable. As for scent control I make sure I never walk behind the exhaust while the 4-wheeler is running and I've got on my camo. That's the only advice I can give. Good luck!


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Mike, I hear ya there bud. I ride up to 4 miles to get to one of my stands and if I had to walk anywere near a mile to hunt it would take the FUN out of it.

Anyways, as far as your question goes. I would not wear scent locks while riding to your stand. I used to and would get busted often., I figured out later that the suit was collecting the exhaust smell on the ride out to the stand. I Imagine the exhaust smell wraps onto the back of the fourweeler just like dust covers the rear of the seat during the dry months.
As for normal camo's I dont worry about it much. When it's cooler I ride with a rain jacket as a wind and smell barrier.

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I'd have to go along with changing into your camo or scentlock after you arrive at your standsite. I don't know if the 4wheeler actually makes that much difference to the deer. I have seen both my father-in-law and brother-in-law take huge bucks sitting on the 4 wheeler, drinking coffe or a soda. Of course, that was during gun season.

Those who wish to appear wise among fools, among the wise seem foolish.
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Mike, Wow looks like you almost started a war.. I too utilize an ATV and have had concerns over odors. Keep the engine tuned and warm it up before you get dressed to hunt. I typically walk out first thing start it up(Without my hunting clothes on) and let it run while I'm getting my things together. As one of the other guys said, I never walk behind or ride close behind while going out to the woods. I'm sure there is some odor rolling over on the driver but there is a trade off. I'm not sweating, fully rested, and get to the stand early. Been hunting (mainly bowhunting)for years with ATVs and think the trade off is worth it. As for the folks who blasted ATV users, well I'm sorry they have disrespectfully hunters in their area. But it's like anything else, it's not the machine, it's the people on them, just like this &quot;BOARD&quot;. IT'S NOT THE BOARD OR THE QUESTION THAT WAS DISRESPECTFUL. IT WAS THE PEOPLE USING IT!!!!!

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I ride my ATV a lot to my stand. I usually park it half a mile from where I will be hunting. As far as the exhaust, I don't worry about it, I ALWAYS hunt with a good wind. If you play the wind right, a $300 scent-lock suit is pointless.

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I just signed up for the forum today in an effort to reply to this topic based on my own observations last month.
I hunt in Mineral Wells, Tx, on my mothers 500 acre horse ranch that has a lot of machinery, and ATV traffic. One would think that with this much going on that the deer would not be affected by the noise of a tractor, or and ATV. The truth is that we have a feeder placed down in a small valley best viewed from her back patio, and at 5:30p.m. every day the same 4 does 6 fawn, and 6 point buck feed there. My mother was at the barn about 300 yards away, and up the hill from the feeder the other day while I was at the house spotting scope in hand watching deer. She started her EZ-GO jeep to come to the house just like she does, and has every day for the past 10 yrs, and to my amazment the 16 deer bolted from the feeder. They did return 20 or so minutes later, but changed my mind entirely on how I will be getting to my stands this year. A-Foot!!!!

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I think the opposite of Y2KR1. I have drove right by bedded deer on my ATV on the way to hang a stand. She watched as I drove by and then when I was leaving, she watched from the same spot and never even stood up. They are some what accustomed to equipment. Now if I would have stopped within 100 yards or so she probably would have bolted. I have watched deer walk by my ATV that was parked in the middle of a corn field and I have watched them walk by my truck at the road without hesitation.

So my opinion is that if you don't drive into their area and stop you will be ok.

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Where I hunt we all have atv's but always walk in. I have anywhere from a 300 yard to 1 mile walk depending on which stand I hunt. The atv is there just in case I kill one. I hate dragging deer and usually pull right up beside it to load it up. The guys on the lease next to us drive in on atv's and usually run deer over to our property. I've seen this on several occasions.

As far as the scent, I agree with the others. Put your camo on after driving in to keep the exhaust scent off your clothes.

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Everyone seems to think I shouldn't be on this message board because of my stance on ATV's. If I was going to single someone out, I would look at DaveC, the man who thinks walking anywhere near a mile takes the fun out of hunting. I just returned from a scouting trip this morning because our season hasn't started yet. I saw 17 deer, 2 black bears and multiple turkeys, grouse and squirrels. The bears were in thickets 20 yards off the trail so I'm sure I would not have seen them on an ATV. This is a hunting message board, and I thought hunting incorporated many skills such as woodsmanship and markmanship. Any slob can ride in the woods on a four wheeler, shoot a deer and ride it back out, that's not what I call hunting.

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wvarcher,

I don't think anyone is saying you don't need to be on the board but you did come on here and with your very first post, began casting stones so to speak. You're right, it is a hunting board and I was asking a legitimate hunting question. Just because you choose not to use an ATV while hunting doesn't make your way any better than mine. I'm sure every member on this board has a different style of hunting. As long as each person enjoys their hunting experience, even though it doesn't match your style, doesn't necessarily make it wrong. There is no reason to come on here bashing and degrading other members for their style of hunting. If that is all you are here to do and have nothing valuable to offer, then yes you will not be welcome here. If you have something such as good advice or would like to share some of your experinces with us then by all means you are more than welcome here.

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I got an idea...

I will sell my ATV and my truck (because I get within 3/4 of a mile to my stand with that) and walk that 9 miles to my hunting area. Yeah, that must be what some of you are doing.

Now that I have that out of my system. Opinions are like buttholes....everybody has one. Mine isn't necisarily the right one and either is any of yours.

wvarcher, since I failed to do the right thing earlier. WELCOME to the boards. Don't take this as a personal attack or that we don't want you here. Because that is not the case. We are glad to have you here to give your opinion.

I don't doubt your woodsmanship and markmanship at all. But I have a friend that uses his ATV to get to and from his hunting area all the time and I would put his woodsmanship and markmanship up against yours in a heartbeat. Not saying he is better, but he is a very passionate hunter. He is my age, all of 26 and he will point out stuff in the woods that I wouldn't have taken a second look at if I were by myself. We started hunting at the same age (14)and he has taken far more quality animals than I have.

Don't get me wrong, when I take my ATV I don't even get close to the woods. It is parked in the middle of the field in a low spot about 200 yards away....which is usually around 600 yards from the truck. When the crops are in, I just bite the bullet and head out on foot. But later in the season after time change, time is of the essence (sp??) and I usually don't get that much. SO I have to make the best of what little I have.

Again, I am not condoning your tactics or Mikes or anybodies.

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My name is Glen and I'm an ATV owner. Just too much land in AZ to get to hunt area without truck or ATV. I park way off from the actual hunt spot and hike in. BUT-Have shed human blood from jerks riding around just before dusk right by a waterhole. They would never get on a board like this because they are not hunters and are dumber than dirt so not trying to offend anyone. Also this type seems to get real nasty when you walk out of a blind and tell them they are stupid little weenies and thus a little fight can occur. I bet not one person on this thread would ever ride an atv in to ruin another guys hunt so to me this discussion is not a serious disagreement. Good hunting and stay away from my spot!

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Hi Mike, I just had to throw my 2 cents in. I'm going to steer clear of the &quot;to atv or not to atv&quot; nonsence. It seems your topic was scent control while riding. I too, use an atv to get to and from my stand as well as hauling deer back to camp, filling up feeders and all sorts of camp chores. Your coment about exhaust was right on target. I don't think there is a surefire method. I guess the scentlock theory makes some sense but I can't afford it. One thing I can suggest is that you make an effort to avoid standing around you're 4 wheeler while it's warming up. (I'm quite sure you already do) I think this is where most scent is picked up. While actualy traveling on your bike most should pass behind you.....I didn't realize 4 wheelers were so contraversial around here...Good Luck Mike..Fletch

KEEP THE WIND IN YOUR FACE.... FLETCH

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Man I gotta get my 2 cents in on this deal also. &quot;ANY SLOB CAN RIDE INTO THE WOODS SHOOT A DEER........&quot; Wow so now if I use my ATV to hunt I'm a SLOB!!!!!! Welcome to the board wvarcher. Please keep in mind &quot;Hunter&quot; covers a WIDE variety of people here. What works for you may not someone else. So keep an open mind!!!!
I like to use different means to hunt. Sometimes I feel like taking that long walk to my stands, and still hunt along the way, do some scouting around. Other days I may be limited on time, and got a good idea the deer will be near my stand that day, so I load up the ATV and go. I only go where no other hunters won't or shouldn't be without committing a crime on my land, so I'm not disturbing them. I don't appreciate riders who tear up the woods, trails, gates, and make a mess it gives all of us a bad Rep. So its natural to bash ALL ATV riders. But hey I guess that makes us all poachers too, because my neighbor down the road does!!
Anyways I've too rode past deer on my ATV, they just look up at me. I've also ridden upon a bedded doe. It seem some areas are not bothered my them. So they also have an advantage. Just like the local farmer in the field on his tractor. I often wondered on the scent control thing also, not only my hunting clothes when riding, but what about my stand (cloth seat), and my weapon? Other than putting on our clothes after we arrive near our stands. What about placing our equipment in plastic bags!!!

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wvarcher, It might be a climate thing. When my morning hunt ends tomorrow morning it will be reaching close to 90 degrees here in Texas. At 90 degrees I consider a one mile walk to be no fun at all.
Good luck to you this season and I assure you I am no hunting slob. But if I am lucky enough to shoot a deer in the morning and ride back to camp with a big smile on my face and a deer strapped to my atv rack...well call me what you want if it makes you feel like more of a true MOUNTAIN MAN!!

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I drive my ATV within a mile of my hunting spot a few hours before i sit in my stand to let deer relax i may have spooked. Without an ATV and a Warn winch some deer are impossible to get, especially when you are hunting in the badlands here in North Dakota.

Why work when you can hunt???? Heck why work at all!!