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Tuffbroadhead 06-26-2005 12:39 PM

YES!!! Internet assited hunting is illigal!!!!!!
 
YES we needed this legislation to go through, It makes internet assited hunting or by remote control against the law!! Its good the have a hunter and a bowhunter as Gov. of Texas!!

heres the link to the bill..
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-b...LLSUFFIX=02026

idahoelkinstructor 06-26-2005 12:43 PM

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That's good to hear, that would have given us hunters a bad rep for sure.

Tuffbroadhead 06-26-2005 12:51 PM

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When I first heard of what those guys where trying to do , I almost fell over... Great to see our state legislature step up and put this to a stop, I hope other states will do the same so these guys dont try to take there business else where..

nodog 06-26-2005 01:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: idahoelkinstructor

That's good to hear, that would have given us hunters a bad rep for sure.

We already have one. I don't see any difference in hunting over the net than buying food over the net. I buy beef, what's the diff if I buy a live one over the net, to be butchered. It's also a step in the wrong direction if you ask me. The only good I can see is, if this law sets a presedent to further limit the bulk of the trash that's on the net now, some how I don't think it will. This is a win for anti hunters, they are defining ethics, some thing they have work very hard *not* to do for decades. You know, "if it feels good man, just do it".

I just see it as more of the same double standard. Just my .02, nothing personal intended.

Tuffbroadhead 06-26-2005 01:21 PM

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A win for anti-hunters, are you on crack!!!!!!!!! When this whole deal of this idiot building a business out of a remote conrtol hunting set-up over the internet it turned the stomach's of hunter all over the united states!! It was a grass roots movment by HUNTERs, NOT ANTI's that brought this bill to fruitation... and making this travesty go away, maybe they will try and come to Ohio next and you will see for your self what real hunter can do when they have the power to appeal the there state legislatures and make laws happen...

HAZCON7 06-26-2005 04:22 PM

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I guess the Elite 8 are going to have to actually work for their win this year ;)

TXhighrack 06-26-2005 04:31 PM

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A win for anti-hunters, are you on crack!!!!!!!!!
I think he is, go read some of his other poston different threads...............

Dubbya 06-26-2005 06:15 PM

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TXhigh- i agree with that.

JimboHunter1 06-26-2005 06:30 PM

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I'm all for disabled people going into the field and hunting by whatever means necessary, but "hunting" over the Internet is ridiculous and would be a huge mistake if it were ever declared legal. Buying meatis one thing, but killing an animal as a result of aiming with your mouse and clicking the mouse button is just an example of a sick, sick video game.
Anybody who wants to simulate a hunt through the use of a personal computer can purchase a video game for about $40 and shoot whatever the heck they want to.
Outlawing that crap is a big victory for all.... PERIOD.

nodog 06-27-2005 04:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: Tuffbroadhead

A win for anti-hunters, are you on crack!!!!!!!!!

Wow! That hurts. Leading off with an insult, that's so dude-ish


ORIGINAL: Tuffbroadhead When this whole deal of this idiot building a business out of a remote conrtol hunting set-up over the internet it turned the stomach's of hunter all over the united states!! It was a grass roots movment by HUNTERs, NOT ANTI's that brought this bill to fruitation... and making this travesty go away, maybe they will try and come to Ohio next and you will see for your self what real hunter can do when they have the power to appeal the there state legislatures and make laws happen...
Hunters like the one I quoted simply stated the fact that it was in some part brought on because of anti-hunters influence.

All you have to do is look at hunting at it's basic core. The Gov. through the blessing of the people has a large stock of meat herds. Every year the Gov. through the blessing of the people sells the rights to take some of them. People buy those rights and take them anyway the want (legally) and fill their freezers, the same as some one buying a side of beef or raising their own except that they must take the animals life themselves. I prefer not to build barns and take care of my freezer meat and let them be free range. I think it's cheaper but with the cost of hunting that's debatable. :D That is hunting at it's core. The Gov. is a farmer or rancher and allows people to go into it's stock and select the one they want with full knowledge that it will be killed and eaten. Some people are picky about the ones they take and others are not, it's up to them what kind they will choose. Some want racks and some don't care.

Hunting like every thing has changed over the years. It has become much more easy and enjoyable. Hunting over the net is just the next step. A person can pick which one out of the Gov. stock they want with out leaving their home and the animal will be just as dead and eaten as any other that is taken by other forms of hunting. It's not inhuman or cruel, it's just food. And that's the way it has been look at for thousands of years, at least until people could buy their meat without having to kill it themselves.

Now we have a whole society of people who love animals more than people, and why, because animals don't tell them no, yet they have no problem telling others how they should live. And so, this society of freaks has been allowed to influence much of our world because we have exchanged reality for emotion.

In short the animal is just as dead and just as humanly as if you were standing in front of it. You city boys need to live on a farm for awhile and be part of a hog roast by being more than people who just show up to eat the cooked beast.

PABowhntr 06-27-2005 04:54 AM

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Glad to hear it here as well. I cannot believe it really even was a question for debate. Other than some extreme circumstances I cannot see how anyone would want to pursue hunting in that fashion.

nodog 06-27-2005 05:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: TXhighrack

go read some of his other post on different threads...............
I new we could find common ground some where.:D

nodog 06-27-2005 05:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: JimboHunter1

Buying meat is one thing, but killing an animal as a result of aiming with your mouse and clicking the mouse button is just an example of a sick, sick video game.

What's the difference in clicking a mouse and pulling a triger. And what's the difference if it is done on an animal out to a thousand yards from the comfort of a heated blind while sipping your favorite beverage looking through a glass window, than doing it from home. It's not a sick video game. It would cost a fortune and require a tag, and if there ever was a way to stop poaching, this would be it. A video game is repetitive this would not be because it would then be illegal.

I suspect this issue is just like others in our society. Somebody was cutting into somebody's business, maybe those high fenced opp's in Texas, and they took it to where they thought could do the most good to stop it.

Just read this, the reason we have plugs in our shotguns is because the double barrel people were against it. Somebody was cutting into somebody's business and they had to make a comprimise.





Wolf Dog 06-27-2005 10:36 AM

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I think it is a big win for hunters!

Most hunters do not realize manufactures of hunting gear pay a manufacturing tax.That tax can be 8% up to 18% on total sales. That money us suppose to go back into the hunting fund for the sport. If we the hunters do not buy gear this money is not in the system to support the sport. Also if the company that is manufacturing equipment over seas they are tax exempt. This means no money goes into the hunting fund for us hunters again. This is a death sentence to the sport of hunting if we do not take care of things like this. That is why we need to by U.S.A. (maid) products and keep the stores open that sell hunting gear. If all we need is a mouse pad to go hunt this sport is dead!

ash2042 06-27-2005 11:41 AM

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Awesome, its great to see the government step up and do the right thing.

danowak 06-27-2005 12:12 PM

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Taking game over the internet sounds more like shopping than hunting. Any you girls want to go shopping?

Tuffbroadhead 06-27-2005 04:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Wolf Dog

I think it is a big win for hunters!

Most hunters do not realize manufactures of hunting gear pay a manufacturing tax.That tax can be 8% up to 18% on total sales. That money us suppose to go back into the hunting fund for the sport. If we the hunters do not buy gear this money is not in the system to support the sport. Also if the company that is manufacturing equipment over seas they are tax exempt. This means no money goes into the hunting fund for us hunters again. This is a death sentence to the sport of hunting if we do not take care of things like this. That is why we need to by U.S.A. (maid) products and keep the stores open that sell hunting gear. If all we need is a mouse pad to go hunt this sport is dead!
The tax system you are refering to is the Robertson-Pittman act.....

JimboHunter1 06-27-2005 06:28 PM

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What's the difference in clicking a mouse and pulling a triger. And what's the difference if it is done on an animal out to a thousand yards from the comfort of a heated blind while sipping your favorite beverage looking through a glass window, than doing it from home. It's not a sick video game.
What's the difference??? First, to shoot a gun you have to breathe correctly, aim steadily, a squeeze the trigger. Clicking a mouse button does not require the same skill. When people kill a deer from a nice, comfortable blind, they still have some personal connection with the hunting experience. Hunting should never be a "virtual" experience and even though a small percentage of what you've said is credible, you'll have to agree that most people on this board totally disagree with the statements that you've made.
The wholeconcept would be a step in the wrong direction for hunters.

31pointer 06-27-2005 09:59 PM

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OMG...nodog are you nuts?????? or on crack as guessed earlier?!?!!?!?
How can you possibly agree with hunting over the internet? It is a pathectic excuse for hunting. It is wrong!! Wrong to sit in front of a dumb computer screen inside the comforts of home and aim at a live animal with a mouse.....doesn't sound like much of a hunter to me....that is a poor poor excuse for hunting. It destroys all hunting ethics and IS NOT fair chase. Real hunters participate in the sport because we enjoy being outdoors and challenging deer one on one, trying to fool his nose and his ears. To try and entice an animal within range. If you can't or don't want to go out in field then its this simple...don't hunt!!! I am 100% with banning internet hunting. This IS NOT the next step in hunting, this is the next step in finding an eazier way.......to avoid the endurances of fair chase in the field.....once again..if you don't want to do what it takes...DON'T HUNT, you aren't a hunter if your idea of hunting is sitting in front of a computer and clicking a mouse...it turns hunting into killing because its so easy to aim with a mouse and it turns into a video game gone wrong...except in this case there are real carcasses on the ground.
So nodog, and anyone else that supports this.....I don't think you are in the right frame of mind to be a hunter, Period
P.S. I am dying to get to November....excited to get up at 5 am, walk through the deep dark timber in freezing conditions and climb up a tree and sit for hours with my trusty Hoyt at my side. Its what I live for....the enjoyment of hunting...not the enjoyment of killing from my computer chair

Pa Trophy Man 06-27-2005 10:15 PM

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Nodog,

I truly believe had this been made legal it would have been horrible for the hunting community. The best qualities of hunters are the fact that they are hard working and willing to spend their time and pour their blood, sweat, and tears into earning their game. What does it say for us when we aren't even willing to put some dirt under our boots and actually do something to earn what we take and we just push a button?? Its so far different from honest hunting that its not even funny, if fact i dont think it could have been called hunting at all.

idahoelkinstructor 06-27-2005 10:24 PM

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Nodog, it appears you have been a bad dog! Now go to your bed and lay down and quit barking!

i shoot stuff 06-28-2005 01:07 AM

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thats awesome

JimboHunter1 06-30-2005 06:25 PM

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This thread has gone far enough, so I'm locking it up!
Oh... wait.... I forgot- I'm not a mod.[:o] :(

rack tracker 06-30-2005 07:58 PM

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WOW, a no brainer, by THE NO BRAINERS;)

Rack-attack 07-01-2005 08:59 AM

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Most hunters do not realize manufactures of hunting gear pay a manufacturing tax.That tax can be 8% up to 18% on total sales
They don't pay it........YOU pay it

nodog 07-01-2005 01:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: idahoelkinstructor

Nodog, it appears you have been a bad dog! Now go to your bed and lay down and quit barking!
Come on now. Be honest. You didn't come up with that all by yourself.

Sheep aren't that smart.:D


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