rage
09-29-2010, 07:58 AM
#11
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195
dont laugh,more than you think.
a lot of hunters have lost respect for the deer.they will shoot a deer between eyes if that is only shot.
using expanding points they will not open if shot placement is not ethical.
i have friends that road hunt.
hundreds of them.
they jump out and the deer is looking at them,they pull up and shoot with expanding point.
then they wound the deer and wound a lot of bucks this way.
i sit in my stand, i let buck turn BROADSIDE,then i shoot my expanding point, NEVER LOST BUCK.
last year i let go a huge 8 point at around 33 yds because i could not get broadside shot.he stood there for 5 minutes. i had shot from the top of shoulder and neck.
MOST WOULD HAVE SHOT AT THIS BUCK.not sproul. i believe in kill not wounding any deer.
people who dont think this way will shoot angled shots or any shots.
is this normal, YOU BET IT IS.out of say 10 hunters i know in my area, myself and 1 more are ETHICAL HUNTERS.we are dieing breed,fossil waiting to go.
now its BROWN ITS DOWN hunters and with it comes expanding points not opening.this is why some are going back to fixed points.these are hunters mostly that dont wait for broadside shot,some just feel more comfortable with fixed but i feel its ANGLED SHOT HUNTER that uses them.
i shot spitfire into 50 targets ,we tested the spitfires on fake deer too,not 1 time did they not open, not 1 time.
these were all broadside shots.
then i took ANGLED SHOTS,out of 9 shots 5 glanced off the fake buck and did not open.
LISTEN TO WHAT I AM SAYING,did not open.throw in a live deer withFUR/RIBS/BONES and that could be even worst .
IF I WAS ANGLED HUNTER i would never use a expanding point ,NEVER.
SPROUL HAS SPOKEN!
10-08-2010, 11:44 AM
#12
Spike
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Belding, MI
Posts: 46
I just started shooting the 2 blade Rage this year and so far I'm extremely impressed. The holes are huge and the blood trails are insane! The first deer I shot only went 30 yards so trailing wasn't even an issue. I have heard negative reports about the 3 blades not opening, but I haven't heard of a 2 blade not opening. I really don't see how it could not open unless you were reusing a head with bent blades or something.
10-14-2010, 06:30 PM
#14
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 311
I am a new bow hunter but have hunted for all my life. This weekend I shot 2 does with rage two blades equipped with lumenoks. 1st doe comes in, with a good broadside shot I draw. I'm over 6 foot with a long draw length in a tiny blind. Lots of noise. Her head whips up, arrows going down range, she turns tail and hauls butt. It went in one shoulder and exited by her hip. Perfect penetration. Opened perfect. THE PICTURE IS BELOW. How bout them RAGES.
2nd doe comes in. Good broadside, lots of noise, arrow down range. She's slower. It goes in back of rib cage exits front of rib cage. Cut both main arteries and both lungs. As she runs away blood pours from both sides like Niagara Falls. Doesn't go 20 yards.
2nd doe comes in. Good broadside, lots of noise, arrow down range. She's slower. It goes in back of rib cage exits front of rib cage. Cut both main arteries and both lungs. As she runs away blood pours from both sides like Niagara Falls. Doesn't go 20 yards.
10-25-2010, 04:36 AM
#16
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Northern Indiana
Posts: 579
thats because a lot of hunters dont place a good shot, they will shoot a deer in back,angled etc.some even shoot deer up the backend.
dont laugh,more than you think.
a lot of hunters have lost respect for the deer.they will shoot a deer between eyes if that is only shot.
using expanding points they will not open if shot placement is not ethical.
i have friends that road hunt.
hundreds of them.
they jump out and the deer is looking at them,they pull up and shoot with expanding point.
then they wound the deer and wound a lot of bucks this way.
i sit in my stand, i let buck turn BROADSIDE,then i shoot my expanding point, NEVER LOST BUCK.
last year i let go a huge 8 point at around 33 yds because i could not get broadside shot.he stood there for 5 minutes. i had shot from the top of shoulder and neck.
MOST WOULD HAVE SHOT AT THIS BUCK.not sproul. i believe in kill not wounding any deer.
people who dont think this way will shoot angled shots or any shots.
is this normal, YOU BET IT IS.out of say 10 hunters i know in my area, myself and 1 more are ETHICAL HUNTERS.we are dieing breed,fossil waiting to go.
now its BROWN ITS DOWN hunters and with it comes expanding points not opening.this is why some are going back to fixed points.these are hunters mostly that dont wait for broadside shot,some just feel more comfortable with fixed but i feel its ANGLED SHOT HUNTER that uses them.
i shot spitfire into 50 targets ,we tested the spitfires on fake deer too,not 1 time did they not open, not 1 time.
these were all broadside shots.
then i took ANGLED SHOTS,out of 9 shots 5 glanced off the fake buck and did not open.
LISTEN TO WHAT I AM SAYING,did not open.throw in a live deer withFUR/RIBS/BONES and that could be even worst .
IF I WAS ANGLED HUNTER i would never use a expanding point ,NEVER.
SPROUL HAS SPOKEN!
dont laugh,more than you think.
a lot of hunters have lost respect for the deer.they will shoot a deer between eyes if that is only shot.
using expanding points they will not open if shot placement is not ethical.
i have friends that road hunt.
hundreds of them.
they jump out and the deer is looking at them,they pull up and shoot with expanding point.
then they wound the deer and wound a lot of bucks this way.
i sit in my stand, i let buck turn BROADSIDE,then i shoot my expanding point, NEVER LOST BUCK.
last year i let go a huge 8 point at around 33 yds because i could not get broadside shot.he stood there for 5 minutes. i had shot from the top of shoulder and neck.
MOST WOULD HAVE SHOT AT THIS BUCK.not sproul. i believe in kill not wounding any deer.
people who dont think this way will shoot angled shots or any shots.
is this normal, YOU BET IT IS.out of say 10 hunters i know in my area, myself and 1 more are ETHICAL HUNTERS.we are dieing breed,fossil waiting to go.
now its BROWN ITS DOWN hunters and with it comes expanding points not opening.this is why some are going back to fixed points.these are hunters mostly that dont wait for broadside shot,some just feel more comfortable with fixed but i feel its ANGLED SHOT HUNTER that uses them.
i shot spitfire into 50 targets ,we tested the spitfires on fake deer too,not 1 time did they not open, not 1 time.
these were all broadside shots.
then i took ANGLED SHOTS,out of 9 shots 5 glanced off the fake buck and did not open.
LISTEN TO WHAT I AM SAYING,did not open.throw in a live deer withFUR/RIBS/BONES and that could be even worst .
IF I WAS ANGLED HUNTER i would never use a expanding point ,NEVER.
SPROUL HAS SPOKEN!
For what it's worth, as of this year, I am now a Rage shooter and haven't had an opportunity to take a deer with one yet. I will share the results when I do!
10-25-2010, 06:26 PM
#17
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195
When it's all said and done, you can think what you wanna think about the Rage, fixed vs. mechanical or any broad head...but SPROUL really has hit the nail on the head here.
For what it's worth, as of this year, I am now a Rage shooter and haven't had an opportunity to take a deer with one yet. I will share the results when I do!
For what it's worth, as of this year, I am now a Rage shooter and haven't had an opportunity to take a deer with one yet. I will share the results when I do!
back when we only had like fred bear points,they were shaped like a zewicky hunting point.they had razor you put in middle.
believe this,I SAW THEM GLANCE OFF MANY A BUCKS SHOULDERS AND FLY DOWN INTO WOODS.this was ANGLED SHOTS.
now today we have the mechanicals.just think how they will glance off a front shoulder if a point like i mentioned would glance off.
10-25-2010, 08:04 PM
#18
Spike
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wind Lake, Wisconsin
Posts: 51
I've also had great luck with Rage 2 blades. Consistent and effective with good shot placement. I hit an 8 pointer 2 years ago, good shot placement but hit the opposite shoulder and didn't pass thru...deer dropped 20 yards from the shot. The pic's above from LKNChoppers tell it all, if you can get a 2-3 inch hole with any broadhead in the lungs odds are good for recovery.
10-26-2010, 08:51 AM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Berkeley Springs, WV
Posts: 1,293
I've also had great luck with Rage 2 blades. Consistent and effective with good shot placement. I hit an 8 pointer 2 years ago, good shot placement but hit the opposite shoulder and didn't pass thru...deer dropped 20 yards from the shot. The pic's above from LKNChoppers tell it all, if you can get a 2-3 inch hole with any broadhead in the lungs odds are good for recovery.
If you are shooting less the 250fps you should prob stick with your favorite fixed blade.
Bottom line is no matter which you use shot placement is the real key.
10-26-2010, 01:41 PM
#20
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5
The problem I have had with the four deer I have killed with a 2 blade Rage this year is this huge bloody spot right in the middle of my hunting area where that rage cut that massive swath in them. Four deer shot, 2 DRT and the other two went about fifty yards with great blood trail. All blades opened and none broke on any of the shots. I shoot a Z7 30" 70# with CE Maxima 350 at about 310 fps. I am gueessing arrow weighs around 380ish grains.