RE: Crimson tallons initial report.
 

The letter and the directions they sent me say:

" We reccomend that you tune your bow with 100 grain field points first, then unscrew those and screw on tallons and shoot. Please note that they will group just as the 100 grain field points."

I have been reading on some of the other forums and all of the reports so far are these heads are doing exactly as they claim. One person even said they didn' t make a better mouse trap they reinvented the wheel.

RE: Crimson tallons initial report.
 

I once read on the internet where a guy said shooting a deer up the rear end was a good idea too. ;)

RE: Crimson tallons initial report.
 

JRW, I really could care less if you used these heads or not I am simply telling you what people that have been shooting them are saying. Don' t get upset with me if the manufacturers claims so far seem to be justified.

RE: Crimson tallons initial report.
 

Um, no one' s getting upset there Chief. I' m just having fun laughing about these goofy-a$$ed things. I always get a good chuckle out of some of the kitch that hits the market every year. It reinforces my belief in the wisdom of P.T. Barnum. :D

RE: Crimson tallons initial report.
 

Sorry, I' m a little under the weather and a little cranky.

RE: Crimson tallons initial report.
 

JRW.What is it about the heads that would make a sucker for wanting to use them.

If they shoot better than other broadheads.They seem to do that by all the individuall and expert accounts I' ve seen.



If they penetrate as well if not better than other broadheads.They seem to do this also from all accounts I' ve seen.




The only question left in my mind is will they hold up.I havn' t seen anyone address that yet.That is why we are getting all the info we can.


I am not going to buy a gimmick head(especially at these prices)unless they work.


If they work,it would be nice to have fixed heads that fly 40 yards accurately without worrying about the affects of wind or other factors.


Remember,most of what we use today in archery,hunting or even everyday life was once considered a gimmick.


There sales pitches are out there but a broadhead that spins the arrow from the front is just flat out going to be more forgiving.There is no getting around that fact.

RE: Crimson tallons initial report.
 

I' ll stick to regular broadheads & offset or helical fletching. This design just dosn' t do anything for me & i would be willing to say they will end up being a fad.

RE: Crimson tallons initial report.
 

Well the heads are on their way to 5 Shot so we will see how they hold up here real soon. They are accurate though.

RE: Crimson tallons initial report.
 

I don' t think they will like the steel drum test.[8D]I would be more interested on how they do on the more moderate tests.I am patiently waiting to see how they stack up against others in the toughness department.

RE: Crimson tallons initial report.
 

I' ll adressit Tfox. I talked to them a great deal at the ATA show and I do have some concerns about the head. This head seems to be just designed for flight. It may well indeed fly better than any other head out there,But! I have done a great deal of Broadhead testing, it is some what different than 5shots and I have had problems with the edge strength on some heads using 420 stainless at a lower hardness. 420 is not a bad steel to use it just needs a slightly higher hardness than 440 for edge strength. From talking with the designer at the show, the Crimson Talon has the lowest hardness in the industry for a fixed head. Soon as I get some I will test them and get an exact number, but from what they have said it is almost at half the hardness of those that successfully maintain the integrity of their blade edge while penetrating the ribcage of an animal.

The majority of heads need to be tested before use by independant sources. I believe this to be paramont for this head. Talking to them at the show threw up allot of red flags for me and I do not believe it will stand up to 5shot' s testing or mine. On that I would recommend they not be used on anything larger than a medium sized deer until you hear other wise from 5shot or another independant source. I have been some what quiet about the research I have been doing the past couple of years, mainly just to wait till answers present themselves with supportive data and ample sample sizes, but to not express my concerns about this broadheads function during penetration would be a disservice. Please do not judge broadheads on flight alone.