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sqdqo 02-05-2009 05:38 PM

Which drop away rest?
 
There are a variety of drop away rest manufacturers, which one? I want to try a drop away but don't know if one works better than the other? Any opinions?

yajsab 02-05-2009 07:29 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Limbdriver. Very easy to set up.

bow_hunter44 02-06-2009 04:03 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Limbdriver is an excellent choice. I also have a Whammy on my Captain, and have had real good luck with it as well.

glockman55 02-06-2009 04:37 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Rip Cord. just as easy to set up..

SwampCollie 02-06-2009 09:23 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
If you have never set up a drop away before, I would recommend you let an archery tech do the job for you. You can easily screw up even the most basic of them to install if you don't know what to look for.

My personal preference is the QAD Ultra HD. Full containment, whisper quiet. A lot of the choice will also depend on the type of bow you shoot. Bowtechs have a sharp increase of poundage right before rolling over into the valley.. so having a full containment or other deep fork style rest could well keep you from flinging your arrow off your launcher arm (and no matter how smooth you draw.... it will happen sooner or later.

Mathews new drop away rest is a really simple and really good drop away. Another rest that works exceptionally well on mathews bows and other single cams is the Schaffer rest.

drockw 02-06-2009 10:02 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Limb driver is my go to choice. Easy to adjust, and operates flawlessly every time. 99% of the time, clearance wont be an issue either b/c of the size of the launcher.

Derek

slayer_54 02-06-2009 12:01 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
had a buddy who owned the qad ultra rest and had problems with the fletching clearing. i shoot the rip cord and have beat the crap out of it and it has never failed me, highly recommended.

MeanV2 02-09-2009 05:29 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
I've sold, setup, and used most of the ones currently on the market.

IMHO there is No doubt that when all things are considered the Limb Driver is the best.

Dan

im ocd 02-09-2009 06:20 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
I'm currently using the Dropzone, works great.

MOhunter46 02-09-2009 06:42 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Limbdriver, best rest out there IMO.

glockman55 02-09-2009 06:49 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Seems like the cord stretched to the top limb would be in the way and catch on twigs and brush in the woods. I've never used one so I'm looking for opinions on those that use the Limb Driver in a hunting situation not just at the range.

MOhunter46 02-09-2009 07:01 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 

ORIGINAL: glockman55

Seems like the cord stretched to the top limb would be in the way and catch on twigs and brush in the woods. I've never used one so I'm looking for opinions on those that use the Limb Driver in a hunting situation not just at the range.
Stuff gets caught on your string and cablessothat cord dosent really matter.

MeanV2 02-09-2009 07:15 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 

ORIGINAL: glockman55

Seems like the cord stretched to the top limb would be in the way and catch on twigs and brush in the woods. I've never used one so I'm looking for opinions on those that use the Limb Driver in a hunting situation not just at the range.
You'll find most people that worry about that have Never hunted with a Limb Driver.

I have hunted with one for the last 2 years. It is nothing to be concerned about;)

Dan

Bailsuk 02-09-2009 11:48 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Used my LimbDriver in the woods and can honestly say i had no issues , best rest by far .

Thanks MeanV Dan ;)

ILLUSION HUNTER 02-10-2009 03:52 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Look at the muzzy zero effect. There's no cord at all. It attaches to your cable slide and is as quiet as it gets. The only neg. that I've heard about this rest is that it will slow your fps alittle.

muzzyman88 02-10-2009 05:23 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
IMO, there are only two, maybe three rests I would consider at this point. Whammy, Limbdriver and potentially the new rest from Octane. The reason being is they will not affect the timing of your bow. Rests that use the down cable must pull so hard on the cable in order to keep the rest up long enough that it effects timing.

glockman55 02-10-2009 05:32 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
The timing issue is just a selling ploy, IMO..My rip cord does not change or affect my timing what so ever..LOL

MeanV2 02-10-2009 05:50 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 

ORIGINAL: glockman55

The timing issue is just a selling ploy, IMO..My rip cord does not change or affect my timing what so ever..LOL
I'm glad you laughed[8D]

Dan

glockman55 02-10-2009 06:21 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
You can't take things too serious Dan..

MeanV2 02-10-2009 07:01 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 

ORIGINAL: glockman55

You can't take things too serious Dan..
Not on the internet anyway[8D]

Dan

muzzyman88 02-10-2009 09:31 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Glockman, it's not a selling point. It's been proven by many, even myself. ;)

glockman55 02-10-2009 12:51 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Your telling me that every bow that uses a drop away rest that uses a cord hooked to the cable for lifting the rest is throwing off the timing? And the Limb Driver hooks to the top limb and has no effect on thetiming of that bow. Amazing, show me the proof.

MeanV2 02-10-2009 01:02 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 

ORIGINAL: glockman55

Your telling me that every bow that uses a drop away rest that uses a cord hooked to the cable for lifting the rest is throwing off the timing? And the Limb Driver hooks to the top limb and has no effect on thetiming of that bow. Amazing, show me the proof.
May not be All of them but there are several.;)

Dan

dave37 02-10-2009 02:43 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
yes yes tell me more. coincidentally i have a QAD ultra that i planned on throwin on my admiral . Any issues with that ? And if so , besides wear are the octanes performing well otherwise ? are the "whiskers" replaceable?

ILLUSION HUNTER 02-10-2009 05:26 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Muzzyman88, or Dan. So in your opinion does my Muzzy zero effect throw the timing off? What does that exactly do as far as shooting accuracy goes?

muzzyman88 02-10-2009 07:45 PM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Ok guys, here is the deal as I have understood it and witnessed personally with my own bows (both binary cams). With a drop away that ties into the down cable. What happens is, the cord attached to the cable gets taught at full draw. Most manufacturers suggest having the rest up at full draw the 1-2 inches of the the draw cycle. What this does is actually pull on the down cable and causes a shortening effect on that cable. Guess what it does to the cam its attached to. It retards the bottom cam.

I believe the limb driver website shows you what happens with the cable pretty clearly, though in their example its a bit extreme of what I've seen personally.

The thing I'm starting to realize more with drop aways is that you want that rest to stay up for as long as it can, then get out of the way to clear your fletching. This is why standard drop aways recommend being up the last couple inches of the draw cycle. The problem is the cable distortion.

The Whammy and the limb driver do not suffer from this effect. They're both not attached to the cables in a manner that applies pressure to them. The Whammy, is connected to the up cable and at full draw, is slack, not applying pressure. The Limb Driver is not attached to the cables at all, but the upper limb and is also slack at full draw.

I know from personally experience that the Whammy really does do as advertised. It stays up the entire time until the very last second. It's then jerked out of the way by the up cable advancing downward. Then it resets itself in the up position. It's so fast, you'll never see it actually happen without video equipment.

I think these two rest in particular are way ahead in drop away technology at this point.

To answer the question about the Zero Effect. This is one rest that I don't see how it can affect timing as well. The slide is free to move naturally on the guard so it shouldn't have any ill effects.

Keep in mind that the effects of the standard drop aways probably is minimal in most cases. What you'll see is a drop in let off. If a bow is 80% and the rest is setup per manufacturer suggestion, you'll likely be only able to obtain around 65% or so without twisting your cable to restore let off. If you'rea tuning feak like myself, you'll tinker with it till its right. :D



dave37 02-11-2009 07:05 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
Sooo if at all possible , it should be avoided ( anything attaching to cables ) ?

muzzyman88 02-11-2009 10:31 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
I wouldn't say "avoid them". They work fine for the average guy. But, if you're anything like me and have a healthy dose of OCD when it comes to bow tuning and setup, you'll want sway toward the Limb Driver, Whammy or the new Octane Tripwire.

I'd never make a statement saying "oh if you shoot a Trophy Taker, QAD, or any other standard type drop away, you won't get it to perform well". I've shot one on my Allegiance for 3 years and killed many deer and X's. However, once I read and realized what that pull cord was doing to the holding weight of the bow, I started looking into other rest options.

One thing I failed to mention. If you do shoot a standard rest, you can get the timing and let off correct by taking a twist or two out of the bottom cam. This should restore let off to 80%. (THIS IS FOR BINARY CAM BOWS ONLY). I have not shot a single cam in years and don't really know what the effects are.

provb28 02-12-2009 10:27 AM

RE: Which drop away rest?
 
MY personal favorite and it's only my opinion , I choose the trophy taker extreme and enjoy the rest I have actually picked up some speed from switching from the Octone hostage Pro( brushes wear out too easy) I am now shooting 309 fps up from 296 with the hostage. my groups are tighter and the rest is very quiet.


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